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 by Gareth
3 years 3 months ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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The point is that all teams hit on some draft picks and miss on some others. To whine about a particular miss, like Tutu Atwell (and of course it's too early to even know if he was a miss), is short-sighted. It's about the overall direction of the team and results. Nobody's done much better than the Rams over the last 5 years. That's what counts.

 by Hacksaw
3 years 3 months ago
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United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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/zn/ wrote:Not always! Some of us recognize 2018 was a good draft when it comes to getting value with lower round picks. Some don't.

It was intended as a pun with a point.

 by /zn/
3 years 3 months ago
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United States of America   Maine
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Hacksaw wrote:It was intended as a pun with a point.


And I was just making a point without the pun. 8-)

 by /zn/
3 years 3 months ago
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United States of America   Maine
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Gareth wrote:The point is that all teams hit on some draft picks and miss on some others. To whine about a particular miss, like Tutu Atwell (and of course it's too early to even know if he was a miss), is short-sighted. It's about the overall direction of the team and results. Nobody's done much better than the Rams over the last 5 years. That's what counts.


I agree the Rams have done well drafting overall.
And I say that even though I don't like the Atwell pick one bit and don't believe they can ever really justify it.
But good teams miss sometimes. Shrug.

 by PARAM
3 years 3 months ago
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Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
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Gareth wrote:The point is that all teams hit on some draft picks and miss on some others. To whine about a particular miss, like Tutu Atwell (and of course it's too early to even know if he was a miss), is short-sighted. It's about the overall direction of the team and results. Nobody's done much better than the Rams over the last 5 years. That's what counts.


It's not the "miss" on Atwell as much as it is the "miss" on Creed Humphrey. Second guessing is easy. In this case, one guy did nothing, the other started and played well all year. The NFL draft is a second-guessers paradise.

Those lamenting that twin miss will say, "but I was calling for Humphrey from the end of the first round!". Yes, and that's because the belief was 'the Rams absolutely needed a center'. Except the Rams didn't feel that way. And the result was a SUPERBOWL TITLE.

Hell second guessers can pick something in every draft. They will surely find someone in the upcoming draft we'll miss on. That's a practice I don't involve myself in for a few of reasons. I do not know what they see in practice everyday, I am not a top level talent evaluator and I do not know whether a guy 'fits' their scheme or locker room. And like you basically said, one year does not make a bust.

 by AvengerRam
3 years 3 months ago
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Israel   Lake Mary, Florida
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Humphrey definitely has a big lead off the starting line. This is a distance race, though, not a sprint. Maybe Atwell will be a "bust." Maybe he'll be a key contributor in the next year or two. Time will tell.

 by Elvis
3 years 3 months ago
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United States of America   Los Angeles
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The Rams just won the SB with Brian Allen as their starting center. Why is everyone so certain they needed to use a 2nd round pick on one?

What we're doing is working. That's unequivocally true.

Maybe Tutu will be the bust he seems to be so far or maybe he'll end up being a valuable weapon for the Rams. But in either case, going skill position with your higher picks makes a ton of sense...

 by PARAM
3 years 3 months ago
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Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
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Elvis wrote:The Rams just won the SB with Brian Allen as their starting center. Why is everyone so certain they needed to use a 2nd round pick on one?

What we're doing is working. That's unequivocally true.

Maybe Tutu will be the bust he seems to be so far or maybe he'll end up being a valuable weapon for the Rams. But in either case, going skill position with your higher picks makes a ton of sense...


Quite right.

In the Tampa Bay game our starting LT was a 3rd round pick, LG a 5th rounder, C a 4th rounder, RG we traded a 5th round to acquire and RT was a 2nd round pick. We won the SB with 2nd, 5th, 4th, 5th and 2nd. Not too shabby.

Our "skill guys"? Higbee 4th, Kupp 3rd, Jefferson 2nd, Akers 2nd, Henderson 3rd, Woods UFA (2nd), OBJ UFA (1st), Michel 2022 6th rd, 2023 4th rd (formerly a 1st round in NE). Quarterback? Two 1st round picks and a former 1st round pick. Is anybody lamenting those picks?

And we get to see if Tutu is a player in 2022. Maybe.

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