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 by rams74
6 years 4 months ago
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Italy   Glendale, Arizona
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Dick84 wrote:Are we forgetting BB traded Seymour with a year left on a team friendly deal?


All this fawning and bowing low to the great swami is pissing me off. Who cares what Belichick did with Richard Seymour? Other than Seymour?

I'm really only interested in what Robert Woods can do for the Rams, not what Belichick would do with Patriots' players.

Fortunately, none of us is running the Rams. Certainly, last off-season the Rams surprised me more than once. If they were to trade Woods, I would be stunned. It's not happening.

 by Elvis
6 years 4 months ago
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United States of America   Los Angeles
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The what would Bill do metric doesn't make a lot of sense. Last year the Rams were using an anti-BB model.

For example, BB would trade Brandin Cooks for 1st round pick on the last year of his contract. The Rams, OTOH, would give up a #1 pick for Cooks on the last year of his contract. That's a pretty stark and concrete example.

Some of it might be philosophical but some of it is because we have Goff on his rookie deal and can afford these types of moves better than a lot of teams.

Maybe the what would Bill do question will make more sense after we sign Goff to a mega-QB deal, or maybe it never will...

 by Haden
6 years 4 months ago
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United States of America   Spokane, WA
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 by rams74
6 years 4 months ago
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Italy   Glendale, Arizona
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Dick84 wrote:I think it’s worth looking at different possibilities.


I don't discount doing that. So how's this for looking at this differently?

The Rams could trade Torry Holt. They can certainly make up for his loss by sliding Hakim into Holt's spot, and throw more to Bruce, Hakim, Proehl, and Faulk. And Ernie Conwell could use some more touches, there's no question he's under-utilized. Plus, the Rams are going to draft Kevin Curtis and Shaun McDonald, and I love those two guys. We'll never even miss Holt in a WR room with all those guys, and we can get at least a 2nd round pick for him, maybe even a 1st. The defense can use all the help it can get. Let's do that.

 by dieterbrock
6 years 4 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
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Dick84 wrote:Woods missed 3 to injury in 16 & 17 each and barely contributed after being injured in 16.

This looks the same to you?

Missing 6 games in 3 years, coming off playing all 16 games
Vs
Missing 10 games in 3 years, coming off missing 5 games

 by Rams1PlateSince1976
6 years 4 months ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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Dieter: Perhaps the free cat in your picture was Dick's and Woods was the person who ran over it.

 by Hacksaw
6 years 4 months ago
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United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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Let's trade Woods for Kaepernick. j/k

@Dick84, the fact that we are stacked at the WR spot gives your scenario some legs. He just doesn't seem like the guy to trade. He is / was such a big part of our transformation.
Of course the McV factor makes the quality evaluation a bit more difficult since he puts his players (receivers) in a place to excel better than what we were all used to around here for so long. Might anyone work as well in Wood's spot?

Team chemistry is always important too. This unit is primed and ready to go back to the Show. Add Kupp and a fresher Gurley and we win that last Superbowl. Hate to shake it up , , , yet.

The following year, depending on what happens next year, will be when they have to make more changes. Add depth this year through the draft. Make a few trades to improve weaknesses and then stand pat. imo

Woods just doesn't save us enough money. Risk to reward ratio seems off to me.

 by dieterbrock
6 years 4 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
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Dick84 wrote:It’s not the same. It’s fair to say Woods has missed time for injury. And, in 16, he barely contributed for the games down the stretch because of injury.
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Missed time for injury isn’t the same as Marshall being injury prone.
And Woods production in 2016 isn’t what you suggested. He was injured during the year and missed 2 games. In the Bills last 2 games he caught 7 passes for 86 yards, which is about his per game average with the Bills.

It’s not comparable to Marshall

As for the Seymour comment, again, not even close to the Woods deal. Seymour was in the last year of his deal when he was traded, and returned a 1st round pick. Seymour had already been a holdout when he negotiated his prior deal and was demanding big dollars.
Woods has 3 years left on his deal at a below market rate. Seymour final year was only affordable because he was paid a monster signing bonus.

The Rams have their WR core signed for years, don’t have multiple free agents on that front coming up (like the Pats did) and won’t be getting a 1st rounder (17th overall)
Apples and oranges really....

 by /zn/
6 years 4 months ago
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United States of America   Maine
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Hacksaw wrote:the fact that we are stacked at the WR spot gives your scenario some legs. He just doesn't seem like the guy to trade.


I don't think they are stacked at WR. I mean that in this sense. The offense uses them in combinations designed to stress a defense. Left on their own, I don;t think any one of them is the kind of WR who would dominate as a game changer or game-long go to guy, the way the top WRs do. They are obviously all good, but what makes the passing game go is how they're used in combination.

I also don't think Reynolds is the same quality player as the other 3.

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