by AvengerRam 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 8919 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsu POST #451 It’s a business dispute. I have neither the time nor the inclination to evaluate the relative merits of the two sides’ positions. I only care about the team’s success. by majik 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #452 Hometown St. Louis judge. This case is ridiculous. Seeing an opportunity with an out-clause in 2015, Kroekne starts preparing to increase his options by purchasing land in LA in 2013, and wants to keep it secret. OMG!!!!!!! Next thing to be revealed, Water is wet!!!!! by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #453 Supposedly Demoff sent an email to the NFL offices saying “Fuck this shit. I’m out.” in response to the first renderings of the North Riverfront stadium proposal. After this he told the Peacock group good job and asked for design revisions. So which is it Kev? by rams74 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1739 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #454 St. Loser Fan wrote:As I’ve stated before I understand perfectly the Rams are in LA for good and that St. Louis will never have football again for a long list of reasons. I just hope that in the end this gives the NFL enough pause that they decide not to screw over Bills fans, Jaguars fans, Bengals fans or other fan bases. And that maybe in the future cities will stand up to the NFL instead of handing taxpayer money to billionaires because they want their version of SoFi.What you're really advocating here is that the NFL morph itself into a single entity, rather than what it is today: A collection of 32 separate owners doing their own thing.The NFL tried to stand up to individual owners like Al Davis and Georgia, who wanted to move their franchises, and it didn't work. The NFL would have wanted a team in L.A. between 1995 and 2016, but it took a willing, determined owner to make it reality.So clearly, the collective is not in control. The individual owners are in control of their own franchises (within certain voluntary limits).What you meant to say is that you hope the Bills' owner doesn't screw over Bills' fans, the Jaguars' owner doesn't screw over Jags' fans, and the Bengals' owner doesn't screw over Bengals' fans, etc. by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #455 https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/07/13/ ... elocation/Another mistake by Goodell was spotlighted by Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio, who noted that the basis of the NFL’s argument — that the league’s relocation policy is voluntary and not mandatory — was undermined by Goodell’s own statement that the policy is, in fact, mandatory.Florio wrote: “If the NFL claims the relocation policy is voluntary and the Commissioner of the NFL has admitted under oath that it’s not, that’s a problem. A big problem. The kind of problem that undermines the credibility of every claim the NFL is making in the case. Indeed, if the league can’t be taken at its word on such a basic and clear question, what if anything that it says in that case can be believed?” by Hacksaw 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #456 TOPIC AUTHOR They're guidelines, not laws or unbreakable rules. By the nature of the word 'guideline' they only point in a direction.nounplural noun: guidelinesa general rule, principle, or piece of advice GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #457 majik wrote:Hometown St. Louis judge. This case is ridiculous. Seeing an opportunity with an out-clause in 2015, Kroekne starts preparing to increase his options by purchasing land in LA in 2013, and wants to keep it secret. OMG!!!!!!! Next thing to be revealed, Water is wet!!!!!That biased, crooked St. Louis judge also gave the NFL an off the docket hearing, which is an extraordinary gift to the league. The local media supposedly had only about a 30 to 45 minute heads up to get downtown to the courthouse and ensured no national media would be there. by majik 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #458 rams74 liked this post That this case was not summarily dismissed is example of of a “hometown judge”.Georgia, Al, and Art demonstrated that the NFL is impudent in stopping each individual owner’s right to relocate.If the NFL indeed told Stan NO you can’t move due to our relocation guidelines, Stan would have sued them and won.Goodell has to publicly say the policy is mandatory, that is his job. The NFL would like stability and would hope that teams won’t pull an Al, Art, or Georgia, but they can. The movers and shakers in St.Louis acted as if they held all of the leverage due to these guidelines and even at the end when some began to realize they were in real trouble of losing the Rams, still wanted way too much more control over the stadium than Stan was looking for. It is not like Stan was saying build the stadium for me and then give it to me, he was willing to build it with some help, but wanted to reap the benefits of putting a lot of his money into the stadium.Demoff has to publicly make positive comments about the St. Louis offer (Negotiations 101, keep your options open). 1 by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #459 majik wrote:That this case was not summarily dismissed is example of of a “hometown judge”.Georgia, Al, and Art demonstrated that the NFL is impudent in stopping each individual owner’s right to relocate.If the NFL indeed told Stan NO you can’t move due to our relocation guidelines, Stan would have sued them and won.Goodell has to publicly say the policy is mandatory, that is his job. The NFL would like stability and would hope that teams won’t pull an Al, Art, or Georgia, but they can. The movers and shakers in St.Louis acted as if they held all of the leverage due to these guidelines and even at the end when some began to realize they were in real trouble of losing the Rams, still wanted way too much more control over the stadium than Stan was looking for. It is not like Stan was saying build the stadium for me and then give it to me, he was willing to build it with some help, but wanted to reap the benefits of putting a lot of his money into the stadium.So is the US Supreme Court also stuffed with crooked St. Louis homers? by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #460 majik wrote:Demoff has to publicly make positive comments about the St. Louis offer (Negotiations 101, keep your options open).Negotiations 101 should include lessons about how emails work.Next time they should use anonymous Protonmail accounts, burner phones and apps that automatically delete texts. 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by majik 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #452 Hometown St. Louis judge. This case is ridiculous. Seeing an opportunity with an out-clause in 2015, Kroekne starts preparing to increase his options by purchasing land in LA in 2013, and wants to keep it secret. OMG!!!!!!! Next thing to be revealed, Water is wet!!!!! by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #453 Supposedly Demoff sent an email to the NFL offices saying “Fuck this shit. I’m out.” in response to the first renderings of the North Riverfront stadium proposal. After this he told the Peacock group good job and asked for design revisions. So which is it Kev? by rams74 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1739 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #454 St. Loser Fan wrote:As I’ve stated before I understand perfectly the Rams are in LA for good and that St. Louis will never have football again for a long list of reasons. I just hope that in the end this gives the NFL enough pause that they decide not to screw over Bills fans, Jaguars fans, Bengals fans or other fan bases. And that maybe in the future cities will stand up to the NFL instead of handing taxpayer money to billionaires because they want their version of SoFi.What you're really advocating here is that the NFL morph itself into a single entity, rather than what it is today: A collection of 32 separate owners doing their own thing.The NFL tried to stand up to individual owners like Al Davis and Georgia, who wanted to move their franchises, and it didn't work. The NFL would have wanted a team in L.A. between 1995 and 2016, but it took a willing, determined owner to make it reality.So clearly, the collective is not in control. The individual owners are in control of their own franchises (within certain voluntary limits).What you meant to say is that you hope the Bills' owner doesn't screw over Bills' fans, the Jaguars' owner doesn't screw over Jags' fans, and the Bengals' owner doesn't screw over Bengals' fans, etc. by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #455 https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/07/13/ ... elocation/Another mistake by Goodell was spotlighted by Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio, who noted that the basis of the NFL’s argument — that the league’s relocation policy is voluntary and not mandatory — was undermined by Goodell’s own statement that the policy is, in fact, mandatory.Florio wrote: “If the NFL claims the relocation policy is voluntary and the Commissioner of the NFL has admitted under oath that it’s not, that’s a problem. A big problem. The kind of problem that undermines the credibility of every claim the NFL is making in the case. Indeed, if the league can’t be taken at its word on such a basic and clear question, what if anything that it says in that case can be believed?” by Hacksaw 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #456 TOPIC AUTHOR They're guidelines, not laws or unbreakable rules. By the nature of the word 'guideline' they only point in a direction.nounplural noun: guidelinesa general rule, principle, or piece of advice GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #457 majik wrote:Hometown St. Louis judge. This case is ridiculous. Seeing an opportunity with an out-clause in 2015, Kroekne starts preparing to increase his options by purchasing land in LA in 2013, and wants to keep it secret. OMG!!!!!!! Next thing to be revealed, Water is wet!!!!!That biased, crooked St. Louis judge also gave the NFL an off the docket hearing, which is an extraordinary gift to the league. The local media supposedly had only about a 30 to 45 minute heads up to get downtown to the courthouse and ensured no national media would be there. by majik 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #458 rams74 liked this post That this case was not summarily dismissed is example of of a “hometown judge”.Georgia, Al, and Art demonstrated that the NFL is impudent in stopping each individual owner’s right to relocate.If the NFL indeed told Stan NO you can’t move due to our relocation guidelines, Stan would have sued them and won.Goodell has to publicly say the policy is mandatory, that is his job. The NFL would like stability and would hope that teams won’t pull an Al, Art, or Georgia, but they can. The movers and shakers in St.Louis acted as if they held all of the leverage due to these guidelines and even at the end when some began to realize they were in real trouble of losing the Rams, still wanted way too much more control over the stadium than Stan was looking for. It is not like Stan was saying build the stadium for me and then give it to me, he was willing to build it with some help, but wanted to reap the benefits of putting a lot of his money into the stadium.Demoff has to publicly make positive comments about the St. Louis offer (Negotiations 101, keep your options open). 1 by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #459 majik wrote:That this case was not summarily dismissed is example of of a “hometown judge”.Georgia, Al, and Art demonstrated that the NFL is impudent in stopping each individual owner’s right to relocate.If the NFL indeed told Stan NO you can’t move due to our relocation guidelines, Stan would have sued them and won.Goodell has to publicly say the policy is mandatory, that is his job. The NFL would like stability and would hope that teams won’t pull an Al, Art, or Georgia, but they can. The movers and shakers in St.Louis acted as if they held all of the leverage due to these guidelines and even at the end when some began to realize they were in real trouble of losing the Rams, still wanted way too much more control over the stadium than Stan was looking for. It is not like Stan was saying build the stadium for me and then give it to me, he was willing to build it with some help, but wanted to reap the benefits of putting a lot of his money into the stadium.So is the US Supreme Court also stuffed with crooked St. Louis homers? by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #460 majik wrote:Demoff has to publicly make positive comments about the St. Louis offer (Negotiations 101, keep your options open).Negotiations 101 should include lessons about how emails work.Next time they should use anonymous Protonmail accounts, burner phones and apps that automatically delete texts. 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by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #453 Supposedly Demoff sent an email to the NFL offices saying “Fuck this shit. I’m out.” in response to the first renderings of the North Riverfront stadium proposal. After this he told the Peacock group good job and asked for design revisions. So which is it Kev? by rams74 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1739 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #454 St. Loser Fan wrote:As I’ve stated before I understand perfectly the Rams are in LA for good and that St. Louis will never have football again for a long list of reasons. I just hope that in the end this gives the NFL enough pause that they decide not to screw over Bills fans, Jaguars fans, Bengals fans or other fan bases. And that maybe in the future cities will stand up to the NFL instead of handing taxpayer money to billionaires because they want their version of SoFi.What you're really advocating here is that the NFL morph itself into a single entity, rather than what it is today: A collection of 32 separate owners doing their own thing.The NFL tried to stand up to individual owners like Al Davis and Georgia, who wanted to move their franchises, and it didn't work. The NFL would have wanted a team in L.A. between 1995 and 2016, but it took a willing, determined owner to make it reality.So clearly, the collective is not in control. The individual owners are in control of their own franchises (within certain voluntary limits).What you meant to say is that you hope the Bills' owner doesn't screw over Bills' fans, the Jaguars' owner doesn't screw over Jags' fans, and the Bengals' owner doesn't screw over Bengals' fans, etc. by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #455 https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/07/13/ ... elocation/Another mistake by Goodell was spotlighted by Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio, who noted that the basis of the NFL’s argument — that the league’s relocation policy is voluntary and not mandatory — was undermined by Goodell’s own statement that the policy is, in fact, mandatory.Florio wrote: “If the NFL claims the relocation policy is voluntary and the Commissioner of the NFL has admitted under oath that it’s not, that’s a problem. A big problem. The kind of problem that undermines the credibility of every claim the NFL is making in the case. Indeed, if the league can’t be taken at its word on such a basic and clear question, what if anything that it says in that case can be believed?” by Hacksaw 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #456 TOPIC AUTHOR They're guidelines, not laws or unbreakable rules. By the nature of the word 'guideline' they only point in a direction.nounplural noun: guidelinesa general rule, principle, or piece of advice GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #457 majik wrote:Hometown St. Louis judge. This case is ridiculous. Seeing an opportunity with an out-clause in 2015, Kroekne starts preparing to increase his options by purchasing land in LA in 2013, and wants to keep it secret. OMG!!!!!!! Next thing to be revealed, Water is wet!!!!!That biased, crooked St. Louis judge also gave the NFL an off the docket hearing, which is an extraordinary gift to the league. The local media supposedly had only about a 30 to 45 minute heads up to get downtown to the courthouse and ensured no national media would be there. by majik 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #458 rams74 liked this post That this case was not summarily dismissed is example of of a “hometown judge”.Georgia, Al, and Art demonstrated that the NFL is impudent in stopping each individual owner’s right to relocate.If the NFL indeed told Stan NO you can’t move due to our relocation guidelines, Stan would have sued them and won.Goodell has to publicly say the policy is mandatory, that is his job. The NFL would like stability and would hope that teams won’t pull an Al, Art, or Georgia, but they can. The movers and shakers in St.Louis acted as if they held all of the leverage due to these guidelines and even at the end when some began to realize they were in real trouble of losing the Rams, still wanted way too much more control over the stadium than Stan was looking for. It is not like Stan was saying build the stadium for me and then give it to me, he was willing to build it with some help, but wanted to reap the benefits of putting a lot of his money into the stadium.Demoff has to publicly make positive comments about the St. Louis offer (Negotiations 101, keep your options open). 1 by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #459 majik wrote:That this case was not summarily dismissed is example of of a “hometown judge”.Georgia, Al, and Art demonstrated that the NFL is impudent in stopping each individual owner’s right to relocate.If the NFL indeed told Stan NO you can’t move due to our relocation guidelines, Stan would have sued them and won.Goodell has to publicly say the policy is mandatory, that is his job. The NFL would like stability and would hope that teams won’t pull an Al, Art, or Georgia, but they can. The movers and shakers in St.Louis acted as if they held all of the leverage due to these guidelines and even at the end when some began to realize they were in real trouble of losing the Rams, still wanted way too much more control over the stadium than Stan was looking for. It is not like Stan was saying build the stadium for me and then give it to me, he was willing to build it with some help, but wanted to reap the benefits of putting a lot of his money into the stadium.So is the US Supreme Court also stuffed with crooked St. Louis homers? by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #460 majik wrote:Demoff has to publicly make positive comments about the St. Louis offer (Negotiations 101, keep your options open).Negotiations 101 should include lessons about how emails work.Next time they should use anonymous Protonmail accounts, burner phones and apps that automatically delete texts. 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by rams74 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1739 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #454 St. Loser Fan wrote:As I’ve stated before I understand perfectly the Rams are in LA for good and that St. Louis will never have football again for a long list of reasons. I just hope that in the end this gives the NFL enough pause that they decide not to screw over Bills fans, Jaguars fans, Bengals fans or other fan bases. And that maybe in the future cities will stand up to the NFL instead of handing taxpayer money to billionaires because they want their version of SoFi.What you're really advocating here is that the NFL morph itself into a single entity, rather than what it is today: A collection of 32 separate owners doing their own thing.The NFL tried to stand up to individual owners like Al Davis and Georgia, who wanted to move their franchises, and it didn't work. The NFL would have wanted a team in L.A. between 1995 and 2016, but it took a willing, determined owner to make it reality.So clearly, the collective is not in control. The individual owners are in control of their own franchises (within certain voluntary limits).What you meant to say is that you hope the Bills' owner doesn't screw over Bills' fans, the Jaguars' owner doesn't screw over Jags' fans, and the Bengals' owner doesn't screw over Bengals' fans, etc. by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #455 https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/07/13/ ... elocation/Another mistake by Goodell was spotlighted by Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio, who noted that the basis of the NFL’s argument — that the league’s relocation policy is voluntary and not mandatory — was undermined by Goodell’s own statement that the policy is, in fact, mandatory.Florio wrote: “If the NFL claims the relocation policy is voluntary and the Commissioner of the NFL has admitted under oath that it’s not, that’s a problem. A big problem. The kind of problem that undermines the credibility of every claim the NFL is making in the case. Indeed, if the league can’t be taken at its word on such a basic and clear question, what if anything that it says in that case can be believed?” by Hacksaw 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #456 TOPIC AUTHOR They're guidelines, not laws or unbreakable rules. By the nature of the word 'guideline' they only point in a direction.nounplural noun: guidelinesa general rule, principle, or piece of advice GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #457 majik wrote:Hometown St. Louis judge. This case is ridiculous. Seeing an opportunity with an out-clause in 2015, Kroekne starts preparing to increase his options by purchasing land in LA in 2013, and wants to keep it secret. OMG!!!!!!! Next thing to be revealed, Water is wet!!!!!That biased, crooked St. Louis judge also gave the NFL an off the docket hearing, which is an extraordinary gift to the league. The local media supposedly had only about a 30 to 45 minute heads up to get downtown to the courthouse and ensured no national media would be there. by majik 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #458 rams74 liked this post That this case was not summarily dismissed is example of of a “hometown judge”.Georgia, Al, and Art demonstrated that the NFL is impudent in stopping each individual owner’s right to relocate.If the NFL indeed told Stan NO you can’t move due to our relocation guidelines, Stan would have sued them and won.Goodell has to publicly say the policy is mandatory, that is his job. The NFL would like stability and would hope that teams won’t pull an Al, Art, or Georgia, but they can. The movers and shakers in St.Louis acted as if they held all of the leverage due to these guidelines and even at the end when some began to realize they were in real trouble of losing the Rams, still wanted way too much more control over the stadium than Stan was looking for. It is not like Stan was saying build the stadium for me and then give it to me, he was willing to build it with some help, but wanted to reap the benefits of putting a lot of his money into the stadium.Demoff has to publicly make positive comments about the St. Louis offer (Negotiations 101, keep your options open). 1 by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #459 majik wrote:That this case was not summarily dismissed is example of of a “hometown judge”.Georgia, Al, and Art demonstrated that the NFL is impudent in stopping each individual owner’s right to relocate.If the NFL indeed told Stan NO you can’t move due to our relocation guidelines, Stan would have sued them and won.Goodell has to publicly say the policy is mandatory, that is his job. The NFL would like stability and would hope that teams won’t pull an Al, Art, or Georgia, but they can. The movers and shakers in St.Louis acted as if they held all of the leverage due to these guidelines and even at the end when some began to realize they were in real trouble of losing the Rams, still wanted way too much more control over the stadium than Stan was looking for. It is not like Stan was saying build the stadium for me and then give it to me, he was willing to build it with some help, but wanted to reap the benefits of putting a lot of his money into the stadium.So is the US Supreme Court also stuffed with crooked St. Louis homers? by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #460 majik wrote:Demoff has to publicly make positive comments about the St. Louis offer (Negotiations 101, keep your options open).Negotiations 101 should include lessons about how emails work.Next time they should use anonymous Protonmail accounts, burner phones and apps that automatically delete texts. 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by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #455 https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/07/13/ ... elocation/Another mistake by Goodell was spotlighted by Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio, who noted that the basis of the NFL’s argument — that the league’s relocation policy is voluntary and not mandatory — was undermined by Goodell’s own statement that the policy is, in fact, mandatory.Florio wrote: “If the NFL claims the relocation policy is voluntary and the Commissioner of the NFL has admitted under oath that it’s not, that’s a problem. A big problem. The kind of problem that undermines the credibility of every claim the NFL is making in the case. Indeed, if the league can’t be taken at its word on such a basic and clear question, what if anything that it says in that case can be believed?” by Hacksaw 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #456 TOPIC AUTHOR They're guidelines, not laws or unbreakable rules. By the nature of the word 'guideline' they only point in a direction.nounplural noun: guidelinesa general rule, principle, or piece of advice GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #457 majik wrote:Hometown St. Louis judge. This case is ridiculous. Seeing an opportunity with an out-clause in 2015, Kroekne starts preparing to increase his options by purchasing land in LA in 2013, and wants to keep it secret. OMG!!!!!!! Next thing to be revealed, Water is wet!!!!!That biased, crooked St. Louis judge also gave the NFL an off the docket hearing, which is an extraordinary gift to the league. The local media supposedly had only about a 30 to 45 minute heads up to get downtown to the courthouse and ensured no national media would be there. by majik 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #458 rams74 liked this post That this case was not summarily dismissed is example of of a “hometown judge”.Georgia, Al, and Art demonstrated that the NFL is impudent in stopping each individual owner’s right to relocate.If the NFL indeed told Stan NO you can’t move due to our relocation guidelines, Stan would have sued them and won.Goodell has to publicly say the policy is mandatory, that is his job. The NFL would like stability and would hope that teams won’t pull an Al, Art, or Georgia, but they can. The movers and shakers in St.Louis acted as if they held all of the leverage due to these guidelines and even at the end when some began to realize they were in real trouble of losing the Rams, still wanted way too much more control over the stadium than Stan was looking for. It is not like Stan was saying build the stadium for me and then give it to me, he was willing to build it with some help, but wanted to reap the benefits of putting a lot of his money into the stadium.Demoff has to publicly make positive comments about the St. Louis offer (Negotiations 101, keep your options open). 1 by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #459 majik wrote:That this case was not summarily dismissed is example of of a “hometown judge”.Georgia, Al, and Art demonstrated that the NFL is impudent in stopping each individual owner’s right to relocate.If the NFL indeed told Stan NO you can’t move due to our relocation guidelines, Stan would have sued them and won.Goodell has to publicly say the policy is mandatory, that is his job. The NFL would like stability and would hope that teams won’t pull an Al, Art, or Georgia, but they can. The movers and shakers in St.Louis acted as if they held all of the leverage due to these guidelines and even at the end when some began to realize they were in real trouble of losing the Rams, still wanted way too much more control over the stadium than Stan was looking for. It is not like Stan was saying build the stadium for me and then give it to me, he was willing to build it with some help, but wanted to reap the benefits of putting a lot of his money into the stadium.So is the US Supreme Court also stuffed with crooked St. Louis homers? by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #460 majik wrote:Demoff has to publicly make positive comments about the St. Louis offer (Negotiations 101, keep your options open).Negotiations 101 should include lessons about how emails work.Next time they should use anonymous Protonmail accounts, burner phones and apps that automatically delete texts. Reply 46 / 88 1 46 88 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 875 posts Jun 29 2025
by Hacksaw 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #456 TOPIC AUTHOR They're guidelines, not laws or unbreakable rules. By the nature of the word 'guideline' they only point in a direction.nounplural noun: guidelinesa general rule, principle, or piece of advice GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #457 majik wrote:Hometown St. Louis judge. This case is ridiculous. Seeing an opportunity with an out-clause in 2015, Kroekne starts preparing to increase his options by purchasing land in LA in 2013, and wants to keep it secret. OMG!!!!!!! Next thing to be revealed, Water is wet!!!!!That biased, crooked St. Louis judge also gave the NFL an off the docket hearing, which is an extraordinary gift to the league. The local media supposedly had only about a 30 to 45 minute heads up to get downtown to the courthouse and ensured no national media would be there. by majik 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #458 rams74 liked this post That this case was not summarily dismissed is example of of a “hometown judge”.Georgia, Al, and Art demonstrated that the NFL is impudent in stopping each individual owner’s right to relocate.If the NFL indeed told Stan NO you can’t move due to our relocation guidelines, Stan would have sued them and won.Goodell has to publicly say the policy is mandatory, that is his job. The NFL would like stability and would hope that teams won’t pull an Al, Art, or Georgia, but they can. The movers and shakers in St.Louis acted as if they held all of the leverage due to these guidelines and even at the end when some began to realize they were in real trouble of losing the Rams, still wanted way too much more control over the stadium than Stan was looking for. It is not like Stan was saying build the stadium for me and then give it to me, he was willing to build it with some help, but wanted to reap the benefits of putting a lot of his money into the stadium.Demoff has to publicly make positive comments about the St. Louis offer (Negotiations 101, keep your options open). 1 by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #459 majik wrote:That this case was not summarily dismissed is example of of a “hometown judge”.Georgia, Al, and Art demonstrated that the NFL is impudent in stopping each individual owner’s right to relocate.If the NFL indeed told Stan NO you can’t move due to our relocation guidelines, Stan would have sued them and won.Goodell has to publicly say the policy is mandatory, that is his job. The NFL would like stability and would hope that teams won’t pull an Al, Art, or Georgia, but they can. The movers and shakers in St.Louis acted as if they held all of the leverage due to these guidelines and even at the end when some began to realize they were in real trouble of losing the Rams, still wanted way too much more control over the stadium than Stan was looking for. It is not like Stan was saying build the stadium for me and then give it to me, he was willing to build it with some help, but wanted to reap the benefits of putting a lot of his money into the stadium.So is the US Supreme Court also stuffed with crooked St. Louis homers? by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #460 majik wrote:Demoff has to publicly make positive comments about the St. Louis offer (Negotiations 101, keep your options open).Negotiations 101 should include lessons about how emails work.Next time they should use anonymous Protonmail accounts, burner phones and apps that automatically delete texts. Reply 46 / 88 1 46 88 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 875 posts Jun 29 2025
by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #457 majik wrote:Hometown St. Louis judge. This case is ridiculous. Seeing an opportunity with an out-clause in 2015, Kroekne starts preparing to increase his options by purchasing land in LA in 2013, and wants to keep it secret. OMG!!!!!!! Next thing to be revealed, Water is wet!!!!!That biased, crooked St. Louis judge also gave the NFL an off the docket hearing, which is an extraordinary gift to the league. The local media supposedly had only about a 30 to 45 minute heads up to get downtown to the courthouse and ensured no national media would be there. by majik 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #458 rams74 liked this post That this case was not summarily dismissed is example of of a “hometown judge”.Georgia, Al, and Art demonstrated that the NFL is impudent in stopping each individual owner’s right to relocate.If the NFL indeed told Stan NO you can’t move due to our relocation guidelines, Stan would have sued them and won.Goodell has to publicly say the policy is mandatory, that is his job. The NFL would like stability and would hope that teams won’t pull an Al, Art, or Georgia, but they can. The movers and shakers in St.Louis acted as if they held all of the leverage due to these guidelines and even at the end when some began to realize they were in real trouble of losing the Rams, still wanted way too much more control over the stadium than Stan was looking for. It is not like Stan was saying build the stadium for me and then give it to me, he was willing to build it with some help, but wanted to reap the benefits of putting a lot of his money into the stadium.Demoff has to publicly make positive comments about the St. Louis offer (Negotiations 101, keep your options open). 1 by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #459 majik wrote:That this case was not summarily dismissed is example of of a “hometown judge”.Georgia, Al, and Art demonstrated that the NFL is impudent in stopping each individual owner’s right to relocate.If the NFL indeed told Stan NO you can’t move due to our relocation guidelines, Stan would have sued them and won.Goodell has to publicly say the policy is mandatory, that is his job. The NFL would like stability and would hope that teams won’t pull an Al, Art, or Georgia, but they can. The movers and shakers in St.Louis acted as if they held all of the leverage due to these guidelines and even at the end when some began to realize they were in real trouble of losing the Rams, still wanted way too much more control over the stadium than Stan was looking for. It is not like Stan was saying build the stadium for me and then give it to me, he was willing to build it with some help, but wanted to reap the benefits of putting a lot of his money into the stadium.So is the US Supreme Court also stuffed with crooked St. Louis homers? by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #460 majik wrote:Demoff has to publicly make positive comments about the St. Louis offer (Negotiations 101, keep your options open).Negotiations 101 should include lessons about how emails work.Next time they should use anonymous Protonmail accounts, burner phones and apps that automatically delete texts. Reply 46 / 88 1 46 88 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 875 posts Jun 29 2025
by majik 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #458 rams74 liked this post That this case was not summarily dismissed is example of of a “hometown judge”.Georgia, Al, and Art demonstrated that the NFL is impudent in stopping each individual owner’s right to relocate.If the NFL indeed told Stan NO you can’t move due to our relocation guidelines, Stan would have sued them and won.Goodell has to publicly say the policy is mandatory, that is his job. The NFL would like stability and would hope that teams won’t pull an Al, Art, or Georgia, but they can. The movers and shakers in St.Louis acted as if they held all of the leverage due to these guidelines and even at the end when some began to realize they were in real trouble of losing the Rams, still wanted way too much more control over the stadium than Stan was looking for. It is not like Stan was saying build the stadium for me and then give it to me, he was willing to build it with some help, but wanted to reap the benefits of putting a lot of his money into the stadium.Demoff has to publicly make positive comments about the St. Louis offer (Negotiations 101, keep your options open). 1 by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #459 majik wrote:That this case was not summarily dismissed is example of of a “hometown judge”.Georgia, Al, and Art demonstrated that the NFL is impudent in stopping each individual owner’s right to relocate.If the NFL indeed told Stan NO you can’t move due to our relocation guidelines, Stan would have sued them and won.Goodell has to publicly say the policy is mandatory, that is his job. The NFL would like stability and would hope that teams won’t pull an Al, Art, or Georgia, but they can. The movers and shakers in St.Louis acted as if they held all of the leverage due to these guidelines and even at the end when some began to realize they were in real trouble of losing the Rams, still wanted way too much more control over the stadium than Stan was looking for. It is not like Stan was saying build the stadium for me and then give it to me, he was willing to build it with some help, but wanted to reap the benefits of putting a lot of his money into the stadium.So is the US Supreme Court also stuffed with crooked St. Louis homers? by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #460 majik wrote:Demoff has to publicly make positive comments about the St. Louis offer (Negotiations 101, keep your options open).Negotiations 101 should include lessons about how emails work.Next time they should use anonymous Protonmail accounts, burner phones and apps that automatically delete texts. Reply 46 / 88 1 46 88 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 875 posts Jun 29 2025
by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #459 majik wrote:That this case was not summarily dismissed is example of of a “hometown judge”.Georgia, Al, and Art demonstrated that the NFL is impudent in stopping each individual owner’s right to relocate.If the NFL indeed told Stan NO you can’t move due to our relocation guidelines, Stan would have sued them and won.Goodell has to publicly say the policy is mandatory, that is his job. The NFL would like stability and would hope that teams won’t pull an Al, Art, or Georgia, but they can. The movers and shakers in St.Louis acted as if they held all of the leverage due to these guidelines and even at the end when some began to realize they were in real trouble of losing the Rams, still wanted way too much more control over the stadium than Stan was looking for. It is not like Stan was saying build the stadium for me and then give it to me, he was willing to build it with some help, but wanted to reap the benefits of putting a lot of his money into the stadium.So is the US Supreme Court also stuffed with crooked St. Louis homers? by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #460 majik wrote:Demoff has to publicly make positive comments about the St. Louis offer (Negotiations 101, keep your options open).Negotiations 101 should include lessons about how emails work.Next time they should use anonymous Protonmail accounts, burner phones and apps that automatically delete texts. Reply 46 / 88 1 46 88 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 875 posts Jun 29 2025
by St. Loser Fan 3 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10884 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #460 majik wrote:Demoff has to publicly make positive comments about the St. Louis offer (Negotiations 101, keep your options open).Negotiations 101 should include lessons about how emails work.Next time they should use anonymous Protonmail accounts, burner phones and apps that automatically delete texts. Reply 46 / 88 1 46 88 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business