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 by CanuckRightWinger
2 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   2777  
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Canada   VANCOUVER, BC
Superstar

Here's a quick talent evaluation from North Of The Border:
Brian Allen, small OC, annually injured, occasionally catastrophic-loss-of-season type injury.
Joe Noteboom, large OT, annually injured, often catastrophic-loss-of-season type of injuries.

They were both In-House Guys counted on to fill in for John Sullivan & Rodger Saffold in 2019. Didn't work out. Both out. We missed the Playoffs. Goff's gyro got tumbled....bad karma.
Then in 2022
....more bad Allen/Noteboom karma.....both get hurt, this time Stafford's core brain function is sadly affected
....and no Playoffs again!!

Somebody here was writing about what constitutes "a fantasy".....
Joe Noteboom as a dependable NFL LT BlindSide professional...
....that's a fucking fantasy!! :idea2:

Anybody who sees Joe LedNFLIn2022QBSacks/Hits/Pressures Noteboom as Los Ramos LT of the future is living in a dream world!!! :!2: :!2: :!2: :!2:

 by ramsman34
2 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   10040  
 Joined:  Apr 16 2015
United States of America   Back in LA baby!
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He would make a good swing tackle. Don’t want to see him starting again. I want an upgrade of Allen and Shelton at OC. One of them have to go, the other, interior back up. But that won’t happen due to Allen’s salary is my guess.

 by 69RamFan
2 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   3592  
 Joined:  Oct 15 2016
United States of America   LA CA by way of NY/NJ
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ramsman34 wrote:He would make a good swing tackle. Don’t want to see him starting again. I want an upgrade of Allen and Shelton at OC. One of them have to go, the other, interior back up. But that won’t happen due to Allen’s salary is my guess.


We are not gonna keep Noteboom at his salary to play a backup swing,

If he doesn't start, he will either be traded or cut.

We have AJax and Aruci (once he gets up to speed) to play as a backup

Cutting Boom, would save us 8mil/yr,

and to put that money into good use for a better player.

 by ramsman34
2 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   10040  
 Joined:  Apr 16 2015
United States of America   Back in LA baby!
Moderator

69RamFan wrote:We are not gonna keep Noteboom at his salary to play a backup swing,

If he doesn't start, he will either be traded or cut.

We have AJax and Aruci (once he gets up to speed) to play as a backup

Cutting Boom, would save us 8mil/yr,

and to put that money into good use for a better player.


I was speaking to his talent level, not where he should be played per se.

And I am all for cutting him. In fact, name one OL we can’t live without? I can’t except maybe Havs and he too has his dud moments.

 by ramsman34
2 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   10040  
 Joined:  Apr 16 2015
United States of America   Back in LA baby!
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So, as we watch the rest of the season and get to see the extreme depth of the OL, here are my thoughts as to who the Rams keep going into next season.

Starters (if no moves are made, which won’t happen):
Jackson-Bruss-Shelton-Anchrum-Havs

2nd String:
Arcuri-Brewer-?-?-?

Gonzo:
Noteboom
Allen (potentially)
Evans
Nsekhe
Kolone
Edwards

Camp Competition:
Skura
Z Thomas
Aboushi
Pircher (international exemption)

I think they will acquire at least 2 tackles, 2 guards and 1 center to bring to camp, competed for starter or back up/swing roles.

Thoughts??

 by PARAM
2 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   13219  
 Joined:  Jul 15 2015
Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
Hall of Fame

Get rid of all of them!!! The only one who can play is Havenstein!!! And at times, that's debateable. Hell, KC did it last year and made it to the......divisional round!!

I suppose we can 'say' Jackson is the real deal at LT after 2 starts. Or Anchrum has got a shot as a starting G after 2 snaps. And that Bruss was our first selection this past draft, so he must have something.

But if Aboushi makes the roster next year we will be in the Caleb Williams sweepstakes. And probably need to be!!

Of course they should probably keep some of them around.

 by actionjack
2 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   5182  
 Joined:  May 19 2016
United States of America   Sactown
Hall of Fame

The Rams window for winning is the next 2-3 years.

OL is not easy grab in FA or the draft. There is a reason the good ones rarely become available.

This year was a regression to the mean on injuries. I would not move on from Boom and Allen until we have proven replacements i.e a free agent or stud draft pick. Boom's injury was a freak thing, though I know he has gotten injured in the past. If anything we need more depth and gents we can develop.

 by Hacksaw
2 years 7 months ago
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 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
Moderator

Road graders please.

 by bremillard
2 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   697  
 Joined:  Sep 30 2019
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Veteran

"Fire Away".
No firing from me. The assumption seems to be that any big guys who have gotten to the NFL can be taught to block to the adequacy that's needed at this level. Using high draft picks...A. Uses up picks normally reserved for skilled players and...B. High draft picks generally command higher salaries. I understand the thinking. The Rams pay their offensive linemen(collectively) less than all but 3 other NFL teams. Some teams pay a LOT more. So...is it better strategy to do things the way the Rams seem to be doing it(total O line about 23 million) or the way the Raiders do it(around 57 million)? Seems the end result is just about the same.

 by PARAM
2 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   13219  
 Joined:  Jul 15 2015
Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
Hall of Fame

Salary of the OL is irrelevant as far as success is concerned.

The 2018 Rams paid their top 5 about 26 mil and they helped them get to the Superbowl, scoring a whopping 3 points once there. In 2019, they paid their starting five 28 mil! :shock2:

The 2020 Bucs paid their top five 39.7 mil and they won the Superbowl. This year they're paying 3 of those five 41.2 mil. And they're 5-6. Sure Jensen is out and that hurts, but they let their 2 G's leave because of money and injuries have affected that unit. Hell Wirfs just went down this week. Let's see how they fare going forward

I'll say this.....the Rams picked a good year to pay their line one of the lowest totals in the league! Can you imagine putting out 41 mil plus and having the number of injuries they've had?

Of course somebody could try and tie salaries to injuries as well.

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