[OldSchool]

What I got from tonight:

1) St Louis thinks they're better than everybody else. Hence the continual comments of screw everybody else take the team away from San Diego and Oakland but leave our team alone. They have no consideration for other people as long as their left alone. They also don't care that the Rams were torn away from LA and it's fans in the first place because it benefited them.

2) They really are good fans don't pay attention to the Rams horrid attendance it's nor our fault they suck and we don't want to go to games. We're great the Rams aren't it's not our fault.

3) More people in St Louis would go to games if Kroenke were walking around the promenade hugging fans.

4) Facts are largely irrelevant and ignored by the St Louis fan base as long as it helps to push items 1 and 2 that I listed.

5) I didn't watch the last 45 minutes ish cause I was bored out of my mind so I may have missed it but I lost all respect for Peacock and Demoff. Never once did Peacock stand up and mention that he has in fact been in communication with Demoff who is the Rams representative in these dealings. And never once did Demoff do the same and challenge Peacock to acknowledge this.

6) Grubman is a well dressed, smooth talking mouth piece for the owners and his job is to go out and ease the fears of all the NFL fans involved in this and he is little more than that.

7) The concept that the NFL was recording tonight seemed to be beyond the mental grasp of the St Louis fan base. I lost track of the amount of idiots that asked them to show this to the owners. Hey ummmm just a heads up but the league is recording this there's a very good chance that the owners will watch the recordings.

That's it for now honestly if those people were up there speaking for me I'd have been embarrassed, they attacked all the wrong people, said all the wrong things and came across as elitist and they feel their better than the NFL fans in San Diego, Oakland and Los Angeles and to hell with anybody who doesn't acknowledge how great they are.

[Hacksaw]

Nuthell OldSchool.. No minutes were taken.

[BuiltRamTough]

Same thing happened tonight will happen tomorrow and the next day. These "speakers" are hardcore football fans. Obviously they're going to get emotional. Watched the the whole thing and the whole time, even though I was 8 years old in 95. I thought to myself, these people that cry and whine and want us and the to NFL to feel sorry for them, where were you when you stole a team? Didn't you feel for "us"? The football fans?

Bottom line is this is business. This is the NFL. We know how they think and they will nickel and dime us forever and never change. I feel sorry for STL but I also feel sorry for the 49 year history of the LA Ram fan.

[Hacksaw]

Nice BRT

[BuiltRamTough]

Nice BRT

Thanks dude. I had to write all that down to get it under 3 minutes. I didn't have time for grammar, thanks NFL!

[TSFH Fan]

Same thing happened tonight will happen tomorrow and the next day.

For purely selfish, entertainment purposes, I'm hoping that there's one-upmanship from the fan bases -- I mean if I was in Oakland or SD, I'm looking at the StD town hall meeting and thinking, pffffft, those "fans" are weak, let's show the NFL what "real" fans are like.

By Thursday, I'm hoping for facepaint, full on spiked costumes and helmets and total testosterone-laden WWE Attitude.
If they want to get Mark Davis' attention, have strippers storm the stage, right?
Have an attractive "self-employed-model" get to the podium and ask Grubman if a lap dance at her workplace will help keep the Raiders in Oakland and when he doesn't respond with yes, offer Grubman "a little something more".

[The Ripper]

What I got from tonight:


5) I didn't watch the last 45 minutes ish cause I was bored out of my mind so I may have missed it but I lost all respect for Peacock and Demoff. Never once did Peacock stand up and mention that he has in fact been in communication with Demoff who is the Rams representative in these dealings. And never once did Demoff do the same and challenge Peacock to acknowledge this.

Peacock and Demoff weren't allowed to address the audience after the Q&A started.

[The Ripper]

[dieterbrock]

What I got from tonight:


2) They really are good fans don't pay attention to the Rams horrid attendance it's nor our fault they suck and we don't want to go to games. We're great the Rams aren't it's not our fault.
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From an uniased point of view, and I obviously visit many Ram boards, that is the exact impression I have had in the years this has been in the making.
I appreciate how St Louis treated the Rams upon arrival, and I admire the hard core St Louis guys who are on these same boards who have love for the team. But I just cant get past the glossing over the attendace issue and like you said, its not so much that they seem to excuse themself from the poor attendance, theres almost a feeling of pride IN the poor attendance

St Louis didnt support the Cardinals, attendance was dreadful. But they got another shot at a team because it was the right place at the right time. No justification needed.
Unfortunately for them, they seemingly may be on the other side of that right now.
So the way I see it, LA support for the Rams dwindled in the years leading up to the move, however St Louis is now on record IMO as poorly supporting 2 NFL teams (who were the only game in town)

Maybe Im just jaded because of where I live, but no matter what the year, what the record, what the weather is, The Jets and Giants NEVER have problems filling seats. There's a waiting list for season tickets. Never been a need for excuses

[OldSchool]

What I got from tonight:


2) They really are good fans don't pay attention to the Rams horrid attendance it's nor our fault they suck and we don't want to go to games. We're great the Rams aren't it's not our fault.
.

From an uniased point of view, and I obviously visit many Ram boards, that is the exact impression I have had in the years this has been in the making.
I appreciate how St Louis treated the Rams upon arrival, and I admire the hard core St Louis guys who are on these same boards who have love for the team. But I just cant get past the glossing over the attendace issue and like you said, its not so much that they seem to excuse themself from the poor attendance, theres almost a feeling of pride IN the poor attendance

St Louis didnt support the Cardinals, attendance was dreadful. But they got another shot at a team because it was the right place at the right time. No justification needed.
Unfortunately for them, they seemingly may be on the other side of that right now.
So the way I see it, LA support for the Rams dwindled in the years leading up to the move, however St Louis is now on record IMO as poorly supporting 2 NFL teams (who were the only game in town)

Maybe Im just jaded because of where I live, but no matter what the year, what the record, what the weather is, The Jets and Giants NEVER have problems filling seats. There's a waiting list for season tickets. Never been a need for excuses

Agree 100% there are some great and rabid loyal fans in St Louis. But the vast majority seem to be extremely fair weather and think that makes them special. They try to make themselves out as this great suffering fan base but ignore teams like the Browns, Lions and Raiders. The Browns have had 1 payoff appearance since they came back into the NFL! And it's not like any other sports teams in Cleveland are bringing home titles either. And yet the Browns sell a higher % of seats every week compared to the Rams.