[Elvis]

Attendance is a fact, good or bad, we talk about facts here. Just don't attack each other (too much) over it.

There is a lot of weird stuff going on, especially on Twitter. Some of the louder/more well known Rams fans on Twitter absolutely blast the Chargers every chance they get over attendance but when Gary Klein reports attendance at a Rams game they crucify him. I don't get it. I wanna know how many people are there. I want to know when there are 90k and i want to know when there are 60k. I like information.

That Chiefs/Patriots game on Thursday had the lowest ratings for an NFL opener since 2009. Have we reached peak NFL? Is it a blip? Cord cutters, millennials? So many angles and possibilities.

But something well worth watching, on all fronts...

[dieterbrock]

I think attendance is a very interesting conversation, UNTIL some sort of comparison to St Louis is brought in to the conversation.
I just dont want to hear those battles any more...
Attendance is whacky though. Rams stadium was a bit shocking to me, I would have thought they would have jammed the joint. But the environment today is so bizarre. Saturday night I watched my beloved Notre Dame lose at home to packed house for of Georgia Fans. Couldt believe my eyes

[Hacksaw]

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Until this weekend when there's a few thousand empty seats at StubHub for the San Diego of Los Angeles Chargers game.

There's a different dynamic with regard to the Chargers being Invaders of our home town or the attendance of our division foes.
A little different yet it is still somewhat the same. But not the same as the extremely tired St Louis vs LA debate or anyone's assertion that that is why any team moved or belongs somewhere.

That said, I 2nd @dieterbrocks emotion...

[moklerman]

Attendance is a fact, good or bad, we talk about facts here. Just don't attack each other (too much) over it.

There is a lot of weird stuff going on, especially on Twitter. Some of the louder/more well known Rams fans on Twitter absolutely blast the Chargers every chance they get over attendance but when Gary Klein reports attendance at a Rams game they crucify him. I don't get it. I wanna know how many people are there. I want to know when there are 90k and i want to know when there are 60k. I like information.

That Chiefs/Patriots game on Thursday had the lowest ratings for an NFL opener since 2009. Have we reached peak NFL? Is it a blip? Cord cutters, millennials? So many angles and possibilities.

But something well worth watching, on all fronts...

I'm not feeling too good about the near future of the NFL. My hope is that there are just as many fans but watching in ways that can't be accounted for. Of course, that doesn't really help the league because if advertisers can't put a number on things, they aren't going to be shelling out the big bucks.

Right now the tv contracts are keeping things profitable but if stadium attendance is any kind of an indicator...the next contract will be much smaller. I think there are a lot of changes on the horizon and not really for the better for old-time fans.

I hope I'm wrong but I'm very nervous about the league.

[rather]

Part of this is derision at the NFL for taking teams from two markets (San Diego and Oakland) that didn't deserve to lose them. LA Rams fans are just collateral damage.

Deadspin.com: Yes, Here Is A Market That Needs Two NFL Teams
http://deadspin.com/yes-here-is-a-marke ... 1803098565

Deadspin is another site that says using public $ for stadiums is a scam. You'd think they'd applaud the Rams for building their own stadium in LA, but they hate on the Rams for what St. Louis did to itself with that dome.

Just watch in 2027 for articles from places like Deadspin crying about how unfair it is that Kroenke is printing money with his own privately funded stadium.

Anyway, if it makes you feel better posting pictures of empty stadiums, go ahead. I suppose it is part of the grieving process.

[BuiltRamTough]

The stadium hold over 90K. There's a lot of bad seats, and a lot of seats are directly into the sun on a 95 degree day.

And it's a shit stadium. Getting in and out is a nightmare.

[Hacksaw]

And it's a shit stadium. Getting in and out is a nightmare.

An iconic POS though.

It seats 90K +. The Rams have capped the available tickets to 70K. There will always be at least 20K empty seats.
Why they capped attendance is partially for fan experience and convenience. Still if they can ever fill it somehow I feel like that would go out the window.
Hard to say how many but expect people dressed up as empty seats at the coliseum every week. At least 20K of them.

[dieterbrock]

I'm not feeling too good about the near future of the NFL. My hope is that there are just as many fans but watching in ways that can't be accounted for. Of course, that doesn't really help the league because if advertisers can't put a number on things, they aren't going to be shelling out the big bucks.

Right now the tv contracts are keeping things profitable but if stadium attendance is any kind of an indicator...the next contract will be much smaller. I think there are a lot of changes on the horizon and not really for the better for old-time fans.

I hope I'm wrong but I'm very nervous about the league.

Its kinda like the housing bubble in 2007-2008, house prices kept going up and people said, how can it continue??
You make some good points there. The salary cap is based off profit sharing, each year the cap goes up. What happens if the cap doesnt go up? Or goes down even? Salaries continue to rise, will players be happy signing for less because there isnt cap space?
End of the day, everything evolves and thy will figure out a way to exploit ad $$
My guess is that you will see virtual ads, similar to the 1st down line, when ad images will appear on the field of play, though not actually on the field...
Stuff like that

[BobCarl]

Are you saying there was entertainment value to be had in St. Louis in 2007 (3-13) 2008 (2-14) 2009 (1-15) and 2011 (2-14)? Are you saying that St. Louis fans have no right to throw the same barbs that were thrown at them from Los Angeles?

get over it .. st. louis past or present has nothing to do with the empty seats in yesterday's game

[St. Loser Fan]

get over it .. st. louis past or present has nothing to do with the empty seats in yesterday's game

The same exact way you got over the move from LA to St. Louis in 18 months?