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 by HighRoller
8 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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dieterbrock wrote:Not sure I understand. Why would Fisher give blessing for Williams to replace him?
I think the NFL is cool with Williams reinstatement as a DC because the HC has to co-sign him and its on his head.
As a HC? Don't think that would fly


Williams is loyal to Fisher. Replacing Fisher after he has been fired has a play of loyalty here.

I think many teams wouldn't give Williams a chance due to bountygate. He has proven himself with the Rams and believe he would be considered. I can see him as a success as a HC this time around. Likely not with the Rams but a light maybe so.

 by moklerman
8 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   7680  
 Joined:  Apr 17 2015
United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
Hall of Fame

ramsman34 wrote:Yep, up 2 scores and the field goal changes nothing really other than preventing the possible tie - which is why Fisher did that i am certain. But, c'mon man, show some balls and go for it on 4th and 1, eat more clock and win the game. Just a gutless call there.
Actually, I think it does. It's one thing as an offense to know you have to score 2 TD's but it's another to know that you just have to score a TD and FG but still able to go for that 2nd TD, knowing you can fall back on the FG for a tie.

If the Dolphins are down 13, I think they lose. Down 10 they should have still lost but those 3 points would have made a difference.

 by Will0120
8 years 7 months ago
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 Joined:  Feb 05 2016
Canada   Vancouver, Canada
Commissioner

moklerman wrote:Actually, I think it does. It's one thing as an offense to know you have to score 2 TD's but it's another to know that you just have to score a TD and FG but still able to go for that 2nd TD, knowing you can fall back on the FG for a tie.

If the Dolphins are down 13, I think they lose. Down 10 they should have still lost but those 3 points would have made a difference.


Not saying that I agree with the 4th and 1 call but had we made that FG, we would have had a pretty good chance to tie that game at the end too, especially with Benny's return all the way to the 41 yard line.

It would have been very feasible to move 30 yards within 36 seconds...

 by ramsman34
8 years 7 months ago
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 Joined:  Apr 16 2015
United States of America   Back in LA baby!
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Will0120 wrote:
Not saying that I agree with the 4th and 1 call but had we made that FG, we would have had a pretty good chance to tie that game at the end too, especially with Benny's return all the way to the 41 yard line.

It would have been very feasible to move 30 yards within 36 seconds...

If I understand you, we would actually have had a chance to WIN (16-14) at the end. BUT, the implies that everything unfolds exactly the same way once we are up 13-0. I guess you can go either way on this. I just think there are times when you have to show your team you believe they can convert a 1 yd gain. It keeps momentum going and even if you don't get the TD, the FG is from a shorter distance. Hindsight being 20-20 and all.

 by Hacksaw_64
8 years 7 months ago
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 Joined:  Sep 08 2015
United States of America   Inglewood, CA
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Worst called game by Boras all year. Other than a couple plays on scoring drive. He continually forced the run against run defense and forced pass against pass defense. It was called completely backwards and setup the offense to fail. Especially after initial success. Boras has to be kicking himself after re-watching that tape.


Goff was actually making the right reads under pressure and they decided to take the ball out of his hands in the second half. It proved to be the wrong decision. They even took Gurley out of the backfield to open up the second half with TA :o seriously wtf??


As much as you guys hate Fisher. And I'm not his biggest supporter. Trust me. He doesn't call the offense. Boras does. He talks directly into the QB's helmet. It's Borasball not Fisherball. Fisher doesn't have shit to do with the offense. Ultimately he's responsible for hiring Boras but your kidding yourselves if you think he's dialing up X's and O's and calling plays from sideline. That's not how it works...

Defense wasn't the issue.

Finally QB wasn't the issue.

Boras was a big issue

Gurley wasn't an issue.

I'm fine with GW staying and blowing out Fisher and Boras... Bring in Martz as OC. I would even be ok with Fisher taking a step back if he gave over full control of the offense to Martz and was just a figurehead. I think he's done though.

He's made two very critically bad decisions
1. Hasn't got OC right (stuck with Boras too long)
2. Case Keenum (stuck with Keenum too long)

now we are all paying for it and its blowing up in our faces.

 by moklerman
8 years 7 months ago
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 Joined:  Apr 17 2015
United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
Hall of Fame

ramsman34 wrote:If I understand you, we would actually have had a chance to WIN (16-14) at the end. BUT, the implies that everything unfolds exactly the same way once we are up 13-0. I guess you can go either way on this. I just think there are times when you have to show your team you believe they can convert a 1 yd gain. It keeps momentum going and even if you don't get the TD, the FG is from a shorter distance. Hindsight being 20-20 and all.
I think it was the right call, especially considering hindsight. This game was all about momentum and converting that FG would have kept momentum, such as it was, on the Rams' side.

Even with Zeurlein as the kicker, as a coach, you can't assume he's going to miss that kick. Going for it on 4th down would have been a sign of a lack of faith in the kicker and the defense.

 by dieterbrock
8 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
Hall of Fame

ramsman34 wrote:Yep, up 2 scores and the field goal changes nothing really other than preventing the possible tie - which is why Fisher did that i am certain. But, c'mon man, show some balls and go for it on 4th and 1, eat more clock and win the game. Just a gutless call there.

Not only does he kick the FG, he actually called time out to decide first.
Under those weather conditions the likelihood of making the FG was equal to making the 4th and 1.
Would have iced the game

 by Hacksaw_64
8 years 7 months ago
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 Joined:  Sep 08 2015
United States of America   Inglewood, CA
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dieterbrock wrote:Not only does he kick the FG, he actually called time out to decide first.
Under those weather conditions the likelihood of making the FG was equal to making the 4th and 1.
Would have iced the game


Once again its a good thing Greg the leg practices before the game by aiming to hit the upright for accuracy :shock: Muscle memory for life yo :x

 by dieterbrock
8 years 7 months ago
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 Joined:  Mar 31 2015
United States of America   New Jersey
Hall of Fame

Hacksaw_64 wrote:Once again its a good thing Greg the leg practices before the game by aiming to hit the upright for accuracy :shock: Muscle memory for life yo :x

It was a good kick, looked good all the way. Conditions were lousy and 1/2 from that distance, in those conditions is pretty good.
Heck, there were 11 XP missed yesterday!!

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