by Elvis 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 41542 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Any win is great but..... POST #41 Apparently this is Fisher's explanation: He wanted TB's kicker to have to make two XP's to beat the Rams because he was struggling.Is that really worth allowing TB to tie the game with a TD and a FG instead of forcing them to score 2 TD's with only 4+ minutes left? RFU Season Ticket Holder by RamsFanSince82 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 20 2015 So. Cal. Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #42 It still doesn't make sense to me. https://twitter.com/DailyNewsVinny/stat ... 4814635008 by max 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #43 Up 11 forces 1 TD+ 2xp, 1 FGUp 12 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. Up 13 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. It comes down to what's the difference in approach between overcoming 12 pt deficit or 13 pt deficit. You require either 2TDs or 3 possessions for both. No significant difference. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by aeneas1 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #44 Elvis wrote: https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 8913608704 and there it is... note to fish, use the card. by dieterbrock 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #45 PARAM wrote:Yeah, I didn't understand the choice either. READ: I agree with you.That being said, whether we successfully kicked the extra point or successfully converted the two point try, the situation is the same on Tampa's last drive. A TD wins it for them. **The reason I say that is**.....IF we kick the extra point or get the two pointer, they only have to go for 1 where they failed going for 2. If their kicker doesn't miss it's 38-33 (with our XP) or 39-33 (with our 2pt conversion). They still win it with a TD and an XP. SO.....maybe that was Fisher's rational......go for 2 because if they score two TD's there's a chance their guy misses one of 2 XP attempts.Only because Tampa didn't convert their 2 pt try. Had they done that, they would have only been a FG away from tyingFisher gave them a chance to tie with a touchdown and a FG instead of leaving them in the position to have to score 2 TD. With only 4 minutes left in the game.I really hope the answer isn't that Fisher wanted to give his team a chance to be tied if Tampa missed an XP by dieterbrock 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #46 Elvis wrote:Apparently this is Fisher's explanation: He wanted TB's kicker to have to make two XP's to beat the Rams because he was struggling.Is that really worth allowing TB to tie the game with a TD and a FG instead of forcing them to score 2 TD's with only 4+ minutes left?Real confident his defense that his defense could keep Tampa out of the endzone 2 more times with only 4 minutes to go?Just wow by Hacksaw 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Any win is great but..... POST #47 Elvis wrote:Apparently this is Fisher's explanation: He wanted TB's kicker to have to make two XP's to beat the Rams because he was struggling.Is that really worth allowing TB to tie the game with a TD and a FG instead of forcing them to score 2 TD's with only 4+ minutes left?NO. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 41542 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Any win is great but..... POST #48 https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 2928641024https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 5620015104https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 2808897538https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 7948978176 RFU Season Ticket Holder by max 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #49 That's great work by Curley. I really respect that guy. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by HopHead Ram 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 1568 Joined: Jul 21 2016 The Left Coast Pro Bowl Any win is great but..... POST #50 max wrote:Up 11 forces 1 TD+ 2xp, 1 FGUp 12 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. Up 13 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. It comes down to what's the difference in approach between overcoming 12 pt deficit or 13 pt deficit. You require either 2TDs or 3 possessions for both. No significant difference.Here is a possible theory. I think he may have made the decision because he didn't trust his defense. Maybe he realized that his Defense was gassed and really didn't have anything left. You could look at the situation and think, Can my defense hold up to prevent 2 TDs or do we want to force them into a situation where they are taking a shot with a FG that will only tie if they cannot prevent the first TD and 2pt conversion. Forcing them to take a FG shot with the kicker having the day he was having may have, in his mind, been the safer approach. Playing not to lose- Classic Fisherball. Just look at the 2 pt conversion attempt by the Rams, What the hell was that? Maybe he wanted to only be up by 11 so his safe approach will play out. That hour long break gave the defense the time it needed to get their legs back under them and to make that final stand, if that didn't occur, I fear the result would have played out exactly what Fisher was fearing. Diehard RAMS fan since '74"The best beer in the world is the one in your hand" Reply 5 / 7 1 5 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 68 posts Jul 21 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by RamsFanSince82 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 20 2015 So. Cal. Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #42 It still doesn't make sense to me. https://twitter.com/DailyNewsVinny/stat ... 4814635008 by max 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #43 Up 11 forces 1 TD+ 2xp, 1 FGUp 12 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. Up 13 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. It comes down to what's the difference in approach between overcoming 12 pt deficit or 13 pt deficit. You require either 2TDs or 3 possessions for both. No significant difference. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by aeneas1 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #44 Elvis wrote: https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 8913608704 and there it is... note to fish, use the card. by dieterbrock 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #45 PARAM wrote:Yeah, I didn't understand the choice either. READ: I agree with you.That being said, whether we successfully kicked the extra point or successfully converted the two point try, the situation is the same on Tampa's last drive. A TD wins it for them. **The reason I say that is**.....IF we kick the extra point or get the two pointer, they only have to go for 1 where they failed going for 2. If their kicker doesn't miss it's 38-33 (with our XP) or 39-33 (with our 2pt conversion). They still win it with a TD and an XP. SO.....maybe that was Fisher's rational......go for 2 because if they score two TD's there's a chance their guy misses one of 2 XP attempts.Only because Tampa didn't convert their 2 pt try. Had they done that, they would have only been a FG away from tyingFisher gave them a chance to tie with a touchdown and a FG instead of leaving them in the position to have to score 2 TD. With only 4 minutes left in the game.I really hope the answer isn't that Fisher wanted to give his team a chance to be tied if Tampa missed an XP by dieterbrock 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #46 Elvis wrote:Apparently this is Fisher's explanation: He wanted TB's kicker to have to make two XP's to beat the Rams because he was struggling.Is that really worth allowing TB to tie the game with a TD and a FG instead of forcing them to score 2 TD's with only 4+ minutes left?Real confident his defense that his defense could keep Tampa out of the endzone 2 more times with only 4 minutes to go?Just wow by Hacksaw 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Any win is great but..... POST #47 Elvis wrote:Apparently this is Fisher's explanation: He wanted TB's kicker to have to make two XP's to beat the Rams because he was struggling.Is that really worth allowing TB to tie the game with a TD and a FG instead of forcing them to score 2 TD's with only 4+ minutes left?NO. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 41542 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Any win is great but..... POST #48 https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 2928641024https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 5620015104https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 2808897538https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 7948978176 RFU Season Ticket Holder by max 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #49 That's great work by Curley. I really respect that guy. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by HopHead Ram 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 1568 Joined: Jul 21 2016 The Left Coast Pro Bowl Any win is great but..... POST #50 max wrote:Up 11 forces 1 TD+ 2xp, 1 FGUp 12 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. Up 13 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. It comes down to what's the difference in approach between overcoming 12 pt deficit or 13 pt deficit. You require either 2TDs or 3 possessions for both. No significant difference.Here is a possible theory. I think he may have made the decision because he didn't trust his defense. Maybe he realized that his Defense was gassed and really didn't have anything left. You could look at the situation and think, Can my defense hold up to prevent 2 TDs or do we want to force them into a situation where they are taking a shot with a FG that will only tie if they cannot prevent the first TD and 2pt conversion. Forcing them to take a FG shot with the kicker having the day he was having may have, in his mind, been the safer approach. Playing not to lose- Classic Fisherball. Just look at the 2 pt conversion attempt by the Rams, What the hell was that? Maybe he wanted to only be up by 11 so his safe approach will play out. That hour long break gave the defense the time it needed to get their legs back under them and to make that final stand, if that didn't occur, I fear the result would have played out exactly what Fisher was fearing. Diehard RAMS fan since '74"The best beer in the world is the one in your hand" Reply 5 / 7 1 5 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 68 posts Jul 21 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by max 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #43 Up 11 forces 1 TD+ 2xp, 1 FGUp 12 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. Up 13 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. It comes down to what's the difference in approach between overcoming 12 pt deficit or 13 pt deficit. You require either 2TDs or 3 possessions for both. No significant difference. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by aeneas1 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #44 Elvis wrote: https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 8913608704 and there it is... note to fish, use the card. by dieterbrock 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #45 PARAM wrote:Yeah, I didn't understand the choice either. READ: I agree with you.That being said, whether we successfully kicked the extra point or successfully converted the two point try, the situation is the same on Tampa's last drive. A TD wins it for them. **The reason I say that is**.....IF we kick the extra point or get the two pointer, they only have to go for 1 where they failed going for 2. If their kicker doesn't miss it's 38-33 (with our XP) or 39-33 (with our 2pt conversion). They still win it with a TD and an XP. SO.....maybe that was Fisher's rational......go for 2 because if they score two TD's there's a chance their guy misses one of 2 XP attempts.Only because Tampa didn't convert their 2 pt try. Had they done that, they would have only been a FG away from tyingFisher gave them a chance to tie with a touchdown and a FG instead of leaving them in the position to have to score 2 TD. With only 4 minutes left in the game.I really hope the answer isn't that Fisher wanted to give his team a chance to be tied if Tampa missed an XP by dieterbrock 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #46 Elvis wrote:Apparently this is Fisher's explanation: He wanted TB's kicker to have to make two XP's to beat the Rams because he was struggling.Is that really worth allowing TB to tie the game with a TD and a FG instead of forcing them to score 2 TD's with only 4+ minutes left?Real confident his defense that his defense could keep Tampa out of the endzone 2 more times with only 4 minutes to go?Just wow by Hacksaw 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Any win is great but..... POST #47 Elvis wrote:Apparently this is Fisher's explanation: He wanted TB's kicker to have to make two XP's to beat the Rams because he was struggling.Is that really worth allowing TB to tie the game with a TD and a FG instead of forcing them to score 2 TD's with only 4+ minutes left?NO. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 41542 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Any win is great but..... POST #48 https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 2928641024https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 5620015104https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 2808897538https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 7948978176 RFU Season Ticket Holder by max 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #49 That's great work by Curley. I really respect that guy. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by HopHead Ram 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 1568 Joined: Jul 21 2016 The Left Coast Pro Bowl Any win is great but..... POST #50 max wrote:Up 11 forces 1 TD+ 2xp, 1 FGUp 12 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. Up 13 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. It comes down to what's the difference in approach between overcoming 12 pt deficit or 13 pt deficit. You require either 2TDs or 3 possessions for both. No significant difference.Here is a possible theory. I think he may have made the decision because he didn't trust his defense. Maybe he realized that his Defense was gassed and really didn't have anything left. You could look at the situation and think, Can my defense hold up to prevent 2 TDs or do we want to force them into a situation where they are taking a shot with a FG that will only tie if they cannot prevent the first TD and 2pt conversion. Forcing them to take a FG shot with the kicker having the day he was having may have, in his mind, been the safer approach. Playing not to lose- Classic Fisherball. Just look at the 2 pt conversion attempt by the Rams, What the hell was that? Maybe he wanted to only be up by 11 so his safe approach will play out. That hour long break gave the defense the time it needed to get their legs back under them and to make that final stand, if that didn't occur, I fear the result would have played out exactly what Fisher was fearing. Diehard RAMS fan since '74"The best beer in the world is the one in your hand" Reply 5 / 7 1 5 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 68 posts Jul 21 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by aeneas1 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #44 Elvis wrote: https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 8913608704 and there it is... note to fish, use the card. by dieterbrock 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #45 PARAM wrote:Yeah, I didn't understand the choice either. READ: I agree with you.That being said, whether we successfully kicked the extra point or successfully converted the two point try, the situation is the same on Tampa's last drive. A TD wins it for them. **The reason I say that is**.....IF we kick the extra point or get the two pointer, they only have to go for 1 where they failed going for 2. If their kicker doesn't miss it's 38-33 (with our XP) or 39-33 (with our 2pt conversion). They still win it with a TD and an XP. SO.....maybe that was Fisher's rational......go for 2 because if they score two TD's there's a chance their guy misses one of 2 XP attempts.Only because Tampa didn't convert their 2 pt try. Had they done that, they would have only been a FG away from tyingFisher gave them a chance to tie with a touchdown and a FG instead of leaving them in the position to have to score 2 TD. With only 4 minutes left in the game.I really hope the answer isn't that Fisher wanted to give his team a chance to be tied if Tampa missed an XP by dieterbrock 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #46 Elvis wrote:Apparently this is Fisher's explanation: He wanted TB's kicker to have to make two XP's to beat the Rams because he was struggling.Is that really worth allowing TB to tie the game with a TD and a FG instead of forcing them to score 2 TD's with only 4+ minutes left?Real confident his defense that his defense could keep Tampa out of the endzone 2 more times with only 4 minutes to go?Just wow by Hacksaw 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Any win is great but..... POST #47 Elvis wrote:Apparently this is Fisher's explanation: He wanted TB's kicker to have to make two XP's to beat the Rams because he was struggling.Is that really worth allowing TB to tie the game with a TD and a FG instead of forcing them to score 2 TD's with only 4+ minutes left?NO. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 41542 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Any win is great but..... POST #48 https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 2928641024https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 5620015104https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 2808897538https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 7948978176 RFU Season Ticket Holder by max 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #49 That's great work by Curley. I really respect that guy. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by HopHead Ram 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 1568 Joined: Jul 21 2016 The Left Coast Pro Bowl Any win is great but..... POST #50 max wrote:Up 11 forces 1 TD+ 2xp, 1 FGUp 12 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. Up 13 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. It comes down to what's the difference in approach between overcoming 12 pt deficit or 13 pt deficit. You require either 2TDs or 3 possessions for both. No significant difference.Here is a possible theory. I think he may have made the decision because he didn't trust his defense. Maybe he realized that his Defense was gassed and really didn't have anything left. You could look at the situation and think, Can my defense hold up to prevent 2 TDs or do we want to force them into a situation where they are taking a shot with a FG that will only tie if they cannot prevent the first TD and 2pt conversion. Forcing them to take a FG shot with the kicker having the day he was having may have, in his mind, been the safer approach. Playing not to lose- Classic Fisherball. Just look at the 2 pt conversion attempt by the Rams, What the hell was that? Maybe he wanted to only be up by 11 so his safe approach will play out. That hour long break gave the defense the time it needed to get their legs back under them and to make that final stand, if that didn't occur, I fear the result would have played out exactly what Fisher was fearing. Diehard RAMS fan since '74"The best beer in the world is the one in your hand" Reply 5 / 7 1 5 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 68 posts Jul 21 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by dieterbrock 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #45 PARAM wrote:Yeah, I didn't understand the choice either. READ: I agree with you.That being said, whether we successfully kicked the extra point or successfully converted the two point try, the situation is the same on Tampa's last drive. A TD wins it for them. **The reason I say that is**.....IF we kick the extra point or get the two pointer, they only have to go for 1 where they failed going for 2. If their kicker doesn't miss it's 38-33 (with our XP) or 39-33 (with our 2pt conversion). They still win it with a TD and an XP. SO.....maybe that was Fisher's rational......go for 2 because if they score two TD's there's a chance their guy misses one of 2 XP attempts.Only because Tampa didn't convert their 2 pt try. Had they done that, they would have only been a FG away from tyingFisher gave them a chance to tie with a touchdown and a FG instead of leaving them in the position to have to score 2 TD. With only 4 minutes left in the game.I really hope the answer isn't that Fisher wanted to give his team a chance to be tied if Tampa missed an XP by dieterbrock 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #46 Elvis wrote:Apparently this is Fisher's explanation: He wanted TB's kicker to have to make two XP's to beat the Rams because he was struggling.Is that really worth allowing TB to tie the game with a TD and a FG instead of forcing them to score 2 TD's with only 4+ minutes left?Real confident his defense that his defense could keep Tampa out of the endzone 2 more times with only 4 minutes to go?Just wow by Hacksaw 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Any win is great but..... POST #47 Elvis wrote:Apparently this is Fisher's explanation: He wanted TB's kicker to have to make two XP's to beat the Rams because he was struggling.Is that really worth allowing TB to tie the game with a TD and a FG instead of forcing them to score 2 TD's with only 4+ minutes left?NO. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 41542 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Any win is great but..... POST #48 https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 2928641024https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 5620015104https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 2808897538https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 7948978176 RFU Season Ticket Holder by max 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #49 That's great work by Curley. I really respect that guy. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by HopHead Ram 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 1568 Joined: Jul 21 2016 The Left Coast Pro Bowl Any win is great but..... POST #50 max wrote:Up 11 forces 1 TD+ 2xp, 1 FGUp 12 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. Up 13 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. It comes down to what's the difference in approach between overcoming 12 pt deficit or 13 pt deficit. You require either 2TDs or 3 possessions for both. No significant difference.Here is a possible theory. I think he may have made the decision because he didn't trust his defense. Maybe he realized that his Defense was gassed and really didn't have anything left. You could look at the situation and think, Can my defense hold up to prevent 2 TDs or do we want to force them into a situation where they are taking a shot with a FG that will only tie if they cannot prevent the first TD and 2pt conversion. Forcing them to take a FG shot with the kicker having the day he was having may have, in his mind, been the safer approach. Playing not to lose- Classic Fisherball. Just look at the 2 pt conversion attempt by the Rams, What the hell was that? Maybe he wanted to only be up by 11 so his safe approach will play out. That hour long break gave the defense the time it needed to get their legs back under them and to make that final stand, if that didn't occur, I fear the result would have played out exactly what Fisher was fearing. Diehard RAMS fan since '74"The best beer in the world is the one in your hand" Reply 5 / 7 1 5 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 68 posts Jul 21 2025
by dieterbrock 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #46 Elvis wrote:Apparently this is Fisher's explanation: He wanted TB's kicker to have to make two XP's to beat the Rams because he was struggling.Is that really worth allowing TB to tie the game with a TD and a FG instead of forcing them to score 2 TD's with only 4+ minutes left?Real confident his defense that his defense could keep Tampa out of the endzone 2 more times with only 4 minutes to go?Just wow by Hacksaw 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Any win is great but..... POST #47 Elvis wrote:Apparently this is Fisher's explanation: He wanted TB's kicker to have to make two XP's to beat the Rams because he was struggling.Is that really worth allowing TB to tie the game with a TD and a FG instead of forcing them to score 2 TD's with only 4+ minutes left?NO. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 41542 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Any win is great but..... POST #48 https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 2928641024https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 5620015104https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 2808897538https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 7948978176 RFU Season Ticket Holder by max 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #49 That's great work by Curley. I really respect that guy. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by HopHead Ram 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 1568 Joined: Jul 21 2016 The Left Coast Pro Bowl Any win is great but..... POST #50 max wrote:Up 11 forces 1 TD+ 2xp, 1 FGUp 12 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. Up 13 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. It comes down to what's the difference in approach between overcoming 12 pt deficit or 13 pt deficit. You require either 2TDs or 3 possessions for both. No significant difference.Here is a possible theory. I think he may have made the decision because he didn't trust his defense. Maybe he realized that his Defense was gassed and really didn't have anything left. You could look at the situation and think, Can my defense hold up to prevent 2 TDs or do we want to force them into a situation where they are taking a shot with a FG that will only tie if they cannot prevent the first TD and 2pt conversion. Forcing them to take a FG shot with the kicker having the day he was having may have, in his mind, been the safer approach. Playing not to lose- Classic Fisherball. Just look at the 2 pt conversion attempt by the Rams, What the hell was that? Maybe he wanted to only be up by 11 so his safe approach will play out. That hour long break gave the defense the time it needed to get their legs back under them and to make that final stand, if that didn't occur, I fear the result would have played out exactly what Fisher was fearing. Diehard RAMS fan since '74"The best beer in the world is the one in your hand" Reply 5 / 7 1 5 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 68 posts Jul 21 2025
by Hacksaw 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Any win is great but..... POST #47 Elvis wrote:Apparently this is Fisher's explanation: He wanted TB's kicker to have to make two XP's to beat the Rams because he was struggling.Is that really worth allowing TB to tie the game with a TD and a FG instead of forcing them to score 2 TD's with only 4+ minutes left?NO. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 41542 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Any win is great but..... POST #48 https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 2928641024https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 5620015104https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 2808897538https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 7948978176 RFU Season Ticket Holder by max 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #49 That's great work by Curley. I really respect that guy. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by HopHead Ram 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 1568 Joined: Jul 21 2016 The Left Coast Pro Bowl Any win is great but..... POST #50 max wrote:Up 11 forces 1 TD+ 2xp, 1 FGUp 12 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. Up 13 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. It comes down to what's the difference in approach between overcoming 12 pt deficit or 13 pt deficit. You require either 2TDs or 3 possessions for both. No significant difference.Here is a possible theory. I think he may have made the decision because he didn't trust his defense. Maybe he realized that his Defense was gassed and really didn't have anything left. You could look at the situation and think, Can my defense hold up to prevent 2 TDs or do we want to force them into a situation where they are taking a shot with a FG that will only tie if they cannot prevent the first TD and 2pt conversion. Forcing them to take a FG shot with the kicker having the day he was having may have, in his mind, been the safer approach. Playing not to lose- Classic Fisherball. Just look at the 2 pt conversion attempt by the Rams, What the hell was that? Maybe he wanted to only be up by 11 so his safe approach will play out. That hour long break gave the defense the time it needed to get their legs back under them and to make that final stand, if that didn't occur, I fear the result would have played out exactly what Fisher was fearing. Diehard RAMS fan since '74"The best beer in the world is the one in your hand" Reply 5 / 7 1 5 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 68 posts Jul 21 2025
by Elvis 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 41542 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Any win is great but..... POST #48 https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 2928641024https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 5620015104https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 2808897538https://twitter.com/vcsjoecurley/status ... 7948978176 RFU Season Ticket Holder by max 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #49 That's great work by Curley. I really respect that guy. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by HopHead Ram 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 1568 Joined: Jul 21 2016 The Left Coast Pro Bowl Any win is great but..... POST #50 max wrote:Up 11 forces 1 TD+ 2xp, 1 FGUp 12 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. Up 13 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. It comes down to what's the difference in approach between overcoming 12 pt deficit or 13 pt deficit. You require either 2TDs or 3 possessions for both. No significant difference.Here is a possible theory. I think he may have made the decision because he didn't trust his defense. Maybe he realized that his Defense was gassed and really didn't have anything left. You could look at the situation and think, Can my defense hold up to prevent 2 TDs or do we want to force them into a situation where they are taking a shot with a FG that will only tie if they cannot prevent the first TD and 2pt conversion. Forcing them to take a FG shot with the kicker having the day he was having may have, in his mind, been the safer approach. Playing not to lose- Classic Fisherball. Just look at the 2 pt conversion attempt by the Rams, What the hell was that? Maybe he wanted to only be up by 11 so his safe approach will play out. That hour long break gave the defense the time it needed to get their legs back under them and to make that final stand, if that didn't occur, I fear the result would have played out exactly what Fisher was fearing. Diehard RAMS fan since '74"The best beer in the world is the one in your hand" Reply 5 / 7 1 5 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 68 posts Jul 21 2025
by max 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Any win is great but..... POST #49 That's great work by Curley. I really respect that guy. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by HopHead Ram 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 1568 Joined: Jul 21 2016 The Left Coast Pro Bowl Any win is great but..... POST #50 max wrote:Up 11 forces 1 TD+ 2xp, 1 FGUp 12 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. Up 13 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. It comes down to what's the difference in approach between overcoming 12 pt deficit or 13 pt deficit. You require either 2TDs or 3 possessions for both. No significant difference.Here is a possible theory. I think he may have made the decision because he didn't trust his defense. Maybe he realized that his Defense was gassed and really didn't have anything left. You could look at the situation and think, Can my defense hold up to prevent 2 TDs or do we want to force them into a situation where they are taking a shot with a FG that will only tie if they cannot prevent the first TD and 2pt conversion. Forcing them to take a FG shot with the kicker having the day he was having may have, in his mind, been the safer approach. Playing not to lose- Classic Fisherball. Just look at the 2 pt conversion attempt by the Rams, What the hell was that? Maybe he wanted to only be up by 11 so his safe approach will play out. That hour long break gave the defense the time it needed to get their legs back under them and to make that final stand, if that didn't occur, I fear the result would have played out exactly what Fisher was fearing. Diehard RAMS fan since '74"The best beer in the world is the one in your hand" Reply 5 / 7 1 5 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 68 posts Jul 21 2025
by HopHead Ram 8 years 9 months ago Total posts: 1568 Joined: Jul 21 2016 The Left Coast Pro Bowl Any win is great but..... POST #50 max wrote:Up 11 forces 1 TD+ 2xp, 1 FGUp 12 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. Up 13 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions. It comes down to what's the difference in approach between overcoming 12 pt deficit or 13 pt deficit. You require either 2TDs or 3 possessions for both. No significant difference.Here is a possible theory. I think he may have made the decision because he didn't trust his defense. Maybe he realized that his Defense was gassed and really didn't have anything left. You could look at the situation and think, Can my defense hold up to prevent 2 TDs or do we want to force them into a situation where they are taking a shot with a FG that will only tie if they cannot prevent the first TD and 2pt conversion. Forcing them to take a FG shot with the kicker having the day he was having may have, in his mind, been the safer approach. Playing not to lose- Classic Fisherball. Just look at the 2 pt conversion attempt by the Rams, What the hell was that? Maybe he wanted to only be up by 11 so his safe approach will play out. That hour long break gave the defense the time it needed to get their legs back under them and to make that final stand, if that didn't occur, I fear the result would have played out exactly what Fisher was fearing. Diehard RAMS fan since '74"The best beer in the world is the one in your hand" Reply 5 / 7 1 5 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business