[Elvis]

It's Florio but:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... y-him-too/

Whoever trades for Jalen Ramsey needs to be ready to pay him, too

Posted by Mike Florio on February 25, 2023, 12:59 PM EST

Four years ago, the eff-them-picks Rams made an all-in move for cornerback Jalen Ramsey. Less than three years after giving him a market-value contract, they’re ready to move on.

So why are the Rams shedding one of their best players? They’re supposedly committed to turning things around and not simply paying the bill for the Super Bowl buffet they enjoyed in 2021. Shouldn’t Ramsey, still only 28 years old, be part of that future?

The problem likely isn’t the balance of his current contract. The problem likely is that he’s angling for a new contract.

He has three years left on the five-year extension he signed in 2020. He’s due to make $17 million this year ($12.5 million of which is fully guaranteed), $18.5 million in 2024, and $19.5 million in 2025.

That’s an average of $18.33 million per year, over the balance of the deal. The full contract had an average of $20 million annually.

The cornerback market has sputtered in recent years, not increasing at the same rate as the salary cap. And Ramsey surely understands it.

There was talk before the 2022 season about Ramsey getting a new deal, but he still had four years left at the time. Now, with three years left, he likely wants a new deal — and he may be getting a new team in order to make that happen.

That seems to be the real reason why the Rams are trading him. It’s not because his skills have diminished, even if they have a bit. It’s not because his current deal has a bunch of phony-baloney, expensive, back-end balloon payments.

It’s because Ramsey wants more, and that the Rams are trying to accommodate him before things get as ugly as they did when he wanted out of Jacksonville.

That’s always the reality of trading for a guy who wants out of his current NFL situation. There’s a chance that, eventually, he’ll want out of his next situation, too.

That apparently won’t stop another team from giving up something to the Rams to get Ramsey, and then something more to Ramsey than he’s due to receive over the next three years.

[ramman2999]

He doesn’t want out the man wants to get paid.

It’s just business. He won a super bowl. Everybody got paid. A lot of guys redo thier deals.

[ramman2999]

Just sucks overall that we have to trade this player. He’s really a do it all defensive back and he plays in the box and out of the box. Can cover tight ends and wide recievers. He’s a locker room leader and he just really makes plays out there. Really came on in the second half for us. When you look at our defense two of our best best players are gone now Wagner and Ramsey. How do you replace that?

[Hacksaw]

He doesn’t want out the man wants to get paid.

It’s just business. He won a super bowl. Everybody got paid. A lot of guys redo thier deals.

Looks like it.

[ziggy]

A little off topic but Demoff was pitching footballs for hours and hours at the “combine” fan fest today. Pretty crazy for the COO of the Rams org to be out with the fans in this manner… fighting hard for the hearts and dollars of the LA fans.
Btw, Ernest Jones, Van Jeff, Ben Skow, McClutch, and others all out just hanging with the gen pop…

[Elvis]

A little off topic but Demoff was pitching footballs for hours and hours at the “combine” fan fest today. Pretty crazy for the COO of the Rams org to be out with the fans in this manner… fighting hard for the hearts and dollars of the LA fans.
Btw, Ernest Jones, Van Jeff, Ben Skow, McClutch, and others all out just hanging with the gen pop…

How was his arm? Would you put him ahead or behind Wolford?

[ziggy]

Well considering he was throwing shorties open— instead of into defenders, he’s starting ahead of Wolfie.

[rams1974]

It's Florio but:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... y-him-too/

As something of a Floriologist (I know, I need better hobbies), this article is actually pretty factual and on point.

Florio's articles re the Rams usually contain veiled digs or angles - the one where he openly begged the Fords to veto the Stafford trade was pretty classic (and actually not very veiled!).

Here I'd be expecting him to lobby to any team interested in Ramsey that he is not worth much in trade, but he's not really going there. Odd for him.

You also have to wonder if this is part of the Rams new direction - they recognize they broke the NFL and now everybody is throwing draft picks around to get the "we can go all-in too!!" optic. They might figure someone will overpay ..

[ramsman34]

74, that last part is pretty interesting. The Rams create a talent acquisition method, so to speak, by appearing to devalue higher round picks or rather convert said value into acquiring proven vet, even star talent. Then, when everyone catches on and mimics, they pivot. And now THEY trade proven vets/stars for what are now devalued picks. IE, they possibly created a market where teams will trade more/better picks for vets today than they would have before the Rams started doing it.

Rather genius if it works and if you hit on those picks - if those picks become starters, really good players, stars - they are cheap for the first few years. Create a system, then use that system in a reverse engineered type of way later on.

[ramman2999]

You can’t get mad at Jalen Ramsey. Look at Manny Machado. I’m gonna give you another sport Major League Baseball. Two 300 million Dollar contracts. He just opted out and the Padres gave him another deal 350 million. So he essentially did what Ramsey wants to do and is asking to do. Tear up my deal and give me another one.


So Ramsey in a sport not as much money thrown around with guranteed contracts just more physical guys around the same age. It makes sense for Jalen Ramsey who is in the prime of his career to ask for more money. He has to maximize his value. And if you were his agent you would be telling him to do the same thing.


I like the guy I like his game. We could talk about resetting the marketing all we want. But we had such a unique situation where we got a star superstar player the next Deion who was the best corner with the Jaguars Florida state guy. And we got him won a super bowl gave him a contract.

In a league with Patrick Mahomes Justin Herbert Jalen Hurts Josh Allen. You need star DBs. Just my opinion these guys help. What Jalen does his versatility off sets any move.

Pairing Ramsey the best corner with the best defensive player is a huge tandem even the 49ers don’t have with Nick Bosa because they have no lockdown corners. Just something to think about. And looking at the league there’s only one corner who comes close to his shut down value is Sauce Gardner. The guy is box office.