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IMO you cant make the decisions Jared made under duress. .

That depends, doesnt it? His decisions beat the Saints in their house to win the NFC on a day when the Saints were getting pressure.

Look up Stafford's 5th year sometime.

And for the record I like Stafford and look forward to seeing him play.

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[Elvis]

So if i'm reading some of you guys right: Swap out Stafford for Goff on the 2020 team, everything else is the same, the results would be exactly the same?

I know some of you will want to expound on this but try to include yes or no in your answer...

[max]

So if i'm reading some of you guys right: Swap out Stafford for Goff on the 2020 team, everything else is the same, the results would be exactly the same?

I know some of you will want to expound on this but try to include yes or no in your answer...

Anyone who thinks it would have been the same is among the clueless.

As I said, go back and read the Silver/Goff thread. That told me a lot about who knows what they’re talking about and who is clueless.

I must say, Elvis, your posts in that thread were all thoughtful, sensible, and knowledgeable.

[69RamFan]

So if i'm reading some of you guys right: Swap out Stafford for Goff on the 2020 team, everything else is the same, the results would be exactly the same?

I know some of you will want to expound on this but try to include yes or no in your answer...

Yes,

because the middle of our OL is not as good as Detroit middle...

Stafford could step up in the pocket and then he could extend the play and run outside of the guards as the tackles take the DE wide and deep...

With the middle of our OL,,, Stafford can't step up into the pocket...

[PARAM]

Anyone who thinks it would have been the same is among the clueless

Well they can't all be as intelligent, well informed and inside sourced as you are Max. Clueless or just their opinion?

So if i'm reading some of you guys right: Swap out Stafford for Goff on the 2020 team, everything else is the same, the results would be exactly the same?

I know some of you will want to expound on this but try to include yes or no in your answer...

No, it would have been completely different. With Stafford we would have had a guy with tons of experience, slightly better arm, more decisive and willing to take a chance throwing into tight spots without the fear his head coach was going to call him out if things didn't go well. It's quite possible we don't lose the Miami game, first SF game and second Seattle game. So if I were a betting man with a time machine, I'd say 13-3. In the postseason, who knows? Anything can happen there like the #1 defense completely shitting the bed and allowing 32 points.

[majik]

The main part of the article that stuck out to me was the mental processing of coverages was the part of Goff’s game that was lacking and something McVay couldn’t fix. Specifically there were plays where McVay schemed the right play but Goff didn’t recognize what the defense was doing and chose the wrong option on the play

[Hacksaw]

The main part of the article that stuck out to me was the mental processing of coverages was the part of Goff’s game that was lacking and something McVay couldn’t fix. Specifically there were plays where McVay schemed the right play but Goff didn’t recognize what the defense was doing and chose the wrong option on the play

Agreed. Very important aspect. As are his physical and instinctive abilities.

I cant wait for the season to start. We need to get the SoFi tailgating started.

[actionjack]

So if i'm reading some of you guys right: Swap out Stafford for Goff on the 2020 team, everything else is the same, the results would be exactly the same?

I know some of you will want to expound on this but try to include yes or no in your answer...

If you could not tell from my post...HELLLLS NO

[actionjack]

That depends, doesnt it? His decisions beat the Saints in their house to win the NFC on a day when the Saints were getting pressure.

Look up Stafford's 5th year sometime.

And for the record I like Stafford and look forward to seeing him play.

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Ok I will put a finer point on it. All QB's struggle to a point when under duress. Goff's play has the biggest divide between a clean pocket vs a dirty one. IMO Goff has very little pocket awareness or es-capability. Like the article mention he also makes poor decisions, see Miami and the first game in Seattle. I much rather have Stafford with good or better arm than talent as Goff, better mobility and pocket awareness.

[/zn/]

Ok I will put a finer point on it. All QB's struggle to a point when under duress. Goff's play has the biggest divide between a clean pocket vs a dirty one. IMO Goff has very little pocket awareness or es-capability. Like the article mention he also makes poor decisions, see Miami and the first game in Seattle. I much rather have Stafford with good or better arm than talent as Goff, better mobility and pocket awareness.

I don't agree and the numbers back me. Some of Goff's best games came when he was under heavy pressure. PFR keeps the stats on qb pressures, and while there are some bad games in there, there are several good ones as well, including the 2018 MNF game against the Chiefs and the NFC conference game in New Orleans. In the 1st Rams/Cards game of 2020, for example, Goff was pressured 16 times, which is the 4th most in 3 years going back to 2018. And he played well in that game.

Your article is too selective and does not tell the whole story.

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