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 by Hacksaw
4 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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max wrote:I wrote a long winded post on this and other stuff in the same light and got bashed here.

But, hey, things are better now. I'm not getting bashed. So thats good.


I'm going to unabashedly bash that bashful statement that you think it's good not to get bashed here.



;)

 by aeneas1
4 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Norcal
Hall of Fame

majik wrote:Because outside of Rams world, Goff may be viewed much differently. Perhaps they view Goff as a guy who took a team to the Super Bowl who has had two down seasons due to the lack of a competent OL. Despite the fantasy of PFF rankings, DCs know the real quality of an OL and word is out around the NFL that the Rams, especially the interior, is lacking.

could be, but those getting paid to report / break this stuff sure haven't mentioned this take, instead they've reported on the huge interest in watson, rodgers and stafford, i haven't read a single piece about teams pounding down the rams doors for a shot at goff, his name only seems to be mentioned in the context of a consolation prize bundled with whatever else the rams would be willing to give up to get one of the big names in the news.... of course reporters aren't privy to all, and of course snead and mcvay haven't exactly framed goff as a hot commodity.

 by elmendorf
4 years 5 months ago
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 Joined:  Apr 29 2016
United States of America   Pennsylvania
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69RamFan wrote:I don't see Goff as being lazy or not being motivated about his work ethics as some MSM would say or some hater fans would say,,,

Every year since 2017, he has worked out during the off season at 3DQB and then he finds a location to practice and brings in his WR/TE to train with him and he foots the bill....

During training camp,,,
I've seen him working out extra with his TEs trying to get them on the same page...

And during the season, I've seen films on his routine getting up at O dark 30 to go to work and leaving late...

To say he is not motivated or doesn't study is full of crap....

The problem is our OL,,, in the middle... that can't keep a clean pocket for Goff...
They get pushed back and he can't step up... or read the field long enough for deep routes....

Why do you think McVay switch it up on his play calling with the short routes or underneath throws...

If you look at the top 8 teams that were left in the playoffs...
how many of them had at least one or more Pro Bowlers on the OL and how many did we have? we had zero... you can't have zero with a pocket QB, unless they are all young and drafted in the early rounds, like TB and most likely they will have future PBers on their OL...
JMO.....


Seems like OL's like TB play angry and take charge in the trenches. Against MIA, the NYJ, and the second SEA game our line got punched in the face and never recovered. Like others have said, we need a gutsy, dominating center and a great guard to give Goff more time.

 by mike schad 1st rd
4 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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Elvis wrote:Is Jim Everett saying what i think he's saying?




That's cause Goff IS Everett. I'm SICK of the Prototype Ram Quarterback. Skinny, immobile. Everett, Bulger, Bradford, Goff. Next one, I want a "Mobile"...

 by aeneas1
4 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Norcal
Hall of Fame

Elvis wrote:Is Jim Everett saying what i think he's saying?



yeah, if there was a place where goff could be successful i would think it would be in shanny's system, a system that more than a few have accused mcvay of trying to copy during the last couple of years...

2017-2020:

in games that garoppolo started the niners averaged 26.6 offensive points per game and posted a 22-6 record.

in all other games the niners averaged 19.8 offensive points per game and posted a 7-29 record.

when looking team offensive scoring average for the 2017-2020 stretch, the niners 26.6 average with jg under center would rank 3rd best, behind the saints (1) and chiefs (2), and one notch higher than the rams (4). :shock2:

the niners 19.8 average without jg under center would rank 23rd.

unfortunately for the niners, and apparently fortunately for the rams, jg made bradford look like an iron man.

 by ramsman34
4 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Back in LA baby!
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aeneas1 wrote:yeah, if there was a place where goff could be successful i would think it would be in shanny's system, a system that more than a few have accused mcvay of trying to copy during the last couple of years...

2017-2020:

in games that garoppolo started the niners averaged 26.6 offensive points per game and posted a 22-6 record.

in all other games the niners averaged 19.8 offensive points per game and posted a 7-29 record.

when looking team offensive scoring average for the 2017-2020 stretch, the niners 26.6 average with jg under center would rank 3rd best, behind the saints (1) and chiefs (2), and one notch higher than the rams (4). :shock2:

the niners 19.8 average without jg under center would rank 23rd.

unfortunately for the niners, and apparently fortunately for the rams, jg made bradford look like an iron man.


So other than injury, why move on from GSpot? Why would the Rams trade Goff in division??? Jared would LOVE this trade, especially if he came back to light us up twice a year, AD ripping him in half notwithstanding.

 by 69RamFan
4 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   LA CA by way of NY/NJ
Superstar

Elvis wrote:Is Jim Everett saying what i think he's saying?




If Goff did go to the 9ers,,,

He would be outstanding,,,

Goff is in the same mold as Matt Ryan,,,,

And Ryan Flourish under Shanahan

Everett is no dummy,,, he played the position...

 by AltiTude Ram
4 years 5 months ago
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 Joined:  Jul 09 2015
United States of America   Denver
Pro Bowl

Of course Everett got sacked by himself!

STFU!

I was and still am a huge Everett fan but these players trying to stay relevant long after they failed gets me fired up.

No way Jim Everett does any better today than he did in 1989 at the top of his game.

Of course he wants to point out things Goff can do better but the truth is he could've done better and fell short

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