[Elvis]

Thanks for the welcome, sorry about blasting on the scene...

Also, how can the NFL force Stan to sign away his lawsuit rights after they signed on to the lease (allowing him to move) bringing the Rams to STL???

This idea is coming from the relocation committee (if the report is accurate) which is packed with Spanos supporters.

Stan has his own supporters, and a lot of lawyers on his side...

[Elvis]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14532 ... ation-docs

City Hall snubbed in effort to get Chargers' relocation docs

Associated Press

SAN DIEGO -- The lead negotiator for the city and county's efforts to keep the San Diego Chargers in town has tried unsuccessfully to obtain a copy of the team's application to relocate to Los Angeles and officials are concerned it might contain inaccuracies.

Attorney Chris Melvin requested the document from the Chargers and the NFL, and nothing has been provided, Craig Gustafson, a spokesman for Mayor Kevin Faulconer, said Friday.

On Monday night, the Chargers released a video in which chairman Dean Spanos contended the team made nine proposals for a new stadium that the city rejected. Many of those proposals were with other cities in San Diego County and didn't include financing plans from the team.

"After seeing the many inaccuracies in Mr. Spanos' recent video, we are concerned there may be similar inaccuracies about San Diego in their relocation application," Gustafson said in an email to The Associated Press. "We would like the opportunity to correct the record, but we can't do that if they refuse to make their application public."

Late Friday, various media outlets reported they had obtained an "executive summary'' of the Chargers' relocation application, which could have only come from the team.

"This application is full of inaccuracies and we've only seen the first four pages,'' Matt Awbrey, another mayoral spokesman, said in an email. "Dean Spanos can't rewrite history as he tries to walk out the door. As has been widely reported, the Chargers have never produced a viable stadium plan, let alone nine. The only real plan produced in the last 14 years is the one proposed by the City, and the Chargers refused to negotiate on it. Any reasonable person can see that the Chargers have not met the requirements for relocation.''

On Friday, Melvin emailed Eric Grubman, the NFL's point man on Los Angeles, to say that he had heard nothing back on his request to Mark Fabiani, who represents Spanos. Melvin asked Grubman if the league could request the team forward its application to the city and county.

Grubman replied: "We suggested to all three teams that they consider whether they wished to release, and that we would not release on their behalf unless directed to do so. Each team has determined their course of action. The most I could do is to relay another request that came from you."

Fabiani, a former deputy mayor of Los Angeles, didn't respond to multiple requests from The Associated Press for a copy of the application.

On Wednesday, Grubman told the AP that the only information the clubs were required to make public were the notices posted on their websites, and that it was up to the teams to release other information.

On Monday, the Chargers, Oakland Raiders and St. Louis Rams filed for relocation to the Los Angeles area, trying not to be left out in the race to return the NFL to the nation's second-largest market after a 21-year absence.

The Chargers want to partner with the AFC West rival Raiders on a stadium in the industrial suburb of Carson. Spanos has had the right to leave San Diego since 2008, but the team's long, contentious efforts to replace aging Qualcomm Stadium became more aggressive after Rams owner Stan Kroenke announced plans to build a stadium in Inglewood.

NFL owners are expected to vote on relocation at a meeting in Houston next week.

The Rams released their application, which contained a withering list of reasons they want to leave for the Los Angeles area. The Rams called their hometown market economically stagnant and said plans for a billion-dollar stadium were a recipe for financial disaster.

That brought immediate condemnation from officials and fans alike.

Both Mayor Francis Slay and the St. Louis NFL Stadium Task Force sent responses to the NFL, citing what they call inaccuracies in the Rams' application. The stadium task force said it was not prepared "for the cruel attack and false claims made by our local team owner, to his League peers, in an attempt to punish and embarrass St. Louis -- a city whose residents and businesses have loyally supported the Rams for more than two decades."

The Chargers' stadium saga turned nasty in the last year as Fabiani attacked Faulconer and his proposals to keep the team in San Diego. The Chargers walked away from negotiations in June and have focused their efforts on Carson.

"Now that we know the disparaging sentiments Uncle Stan had for STL, one can only wonder what Deano had to say about SD," Jason Cabel Roe, a political consultant to Faulconer, said in an email to the AP.

[SWAdude]

And the plot thickens......

Good Gravy!

[Hacksaw]

. Either that or he's playing hard ball up to the very last minute...

Having a yes vote for the Chargers is a big bargaining chip for Spanos. It helps him in negotiations with the big dog (ESK) and continues leverage against SD.
I hate reading where SD has given up and doing the StL "NFL city" thing, but that may no even be true. Just one of Fabianos' leaks. (dude need Depends)

Either way, I think Spanos get's his approval. He might not move though.. At least yet.

Davis I have my doubts. In the real world, the loser is not given the grand prize.

Kroenke, not certain, at least in the first round. After ESK counter punches (or at least threatens to) we may see him on the move too. In the real world, the leader doesn't usually get sent home a loser.

[Hacksaw]

And the plot thickens......

Good Gravy!

No kidding. Seems to me ESK might have kept a lid on his too. HE released it and allowed StL to throw a series of counter punches publicly and with the NFL specifically. Thsi is not a positive for the perception of ESK and the Rams. Davis and Spanos refusing to release theirs, allows them to hide under the shroud of niceness and victim without retort.
Their is an Army of people fighting to cram what they want down LA's throat.
I just want my Rams back and if we get this close and get turned back, well Sundays are useful for other things besides watching an overly officiated league run by a bunch of good ol boy billionaire assholes.

[SWAdude]

And the plot thickens......

Good Gravy!

No kidding. Seems to me ESK might have kept a lid on his too. HE released it and allowed StL to throw a series of counter punches publicly and with the NFL specifically. Thsi is not a positive for the perception of ESK and the Rams. Davis and Spanos refusing to release theirs, allows them to hide under the shroud of niceness and victim without retort.
Their is an Army of people fighting to cram what they want down LA's throat.
I just want my Rams back and if we get this close and get turned back, well Sundays are useful for other things besides watching an overly officiated league run by a bunch of good ol boy billionaire assholes.

Oh bullsh......

See on the inter-web on gameday.

I feel ya brother.

[max]

Approving only Spanos is not a solution.

What is Goodell gonna say?

"The Chargers have been approved to move to LA, unfortunately they don't have a way of building a new stadium by themselves just yet, so we're gonna assume they eventually do and assume everything works out just fine."

What is wrong with you people! That ain't happening.

If Spanos moves its gotta be 2 teams in LA.

Only way it's 1 team is Rams.

Still, all signs point to NFL finding out first hand if 2 teams is a big mistake.

[den-the-coach]

Still, all signs point to NFL finding out first hand if 2 teams is a big mistake.

Not to sure two teams would be mistake I actually think that Rams/Chargers could work if Fat Face would shutty! Dean is afraid he's going to miss out on something again I don't care how it works out I just want the Rams back in LA and if the Chargers share the stadium then fine because they will always be considered the Red Headed Step child Mark Davis notwithstanding.

[SWAdude]

Still, all signs point to NFL finding out first hand if 2 teams is a big mistake.

Not to sure two teams would be mistake I actually think that Rams/Chargers could work if Fat Face would shutty! Dean is afraid he's going to miss out on something again I don't care how it works out I just want the Rams back in LA and if the Chargers share the stadium then fine because they will always be considered the Red Headed Step child Mark Davis notwithstanding.

If I am a betting man, and I have the four options, my money is on this.^^^^^^^^^^

[Hacksaw]

Oh bullsh......

lol,,,, was it something I said?