[Ramsdude]

in 3 of the 4 losses to shanny's niners (dating back to last season), mcvay's offense averaged a laughable 12 points per game (7, 13 and 16)... moreover, outside of the rams drives that ended in turnovers, the rams had 29 other drives that didn't end in turnovers, i.e. almost 10 per game.

and what did the rams do with those 29 non-turnover drives? they averaged just 21 yards per, punted a whopping 18 times (of which, stunningly, 12 were 3-and-outs), turned the ball over on downs 4 times, scored 4 measly tds, and 3 measly field goals.

if you ask me, that's the very definition of an opposition having your offense figured out.

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That tells me Saleh owns McVay. The issue seems to be more a McVay thing than a Goff thing if you ask me. To do so little on all those other drives shows that McVay doesn't have any answers to Saleh's approach.

I would also say that Shanny knows how to attack our D too. They can move the ball on us when they have to and we can seem to stop them. To give up two scoring drives after taking the lead the lead is proof.

For some reason Saleh/Shanny always have their guys ready to play against us no matter how many injuries or how many players are out. The whiners always seem to have more INTENSITY than our guys. The whiners seem to want it more. Just one time I would like to see our guys play like their pants are on fire against them and actually "out physical" them.

We always look so soft against them it isn't funny! Does McVay even know what "whiner week" means? Maybe Mike Martz can fill him in lol.

[aeneas1]

That tells me Saleh owns McVay. The issue seems to be more a McVay thing than a Goff thing if you ask me. To do so little on all those other drives shows that McVay doesn't have any answers to Saleh's approach.

I would also say that Shanny knows how to attack our D too. They can move the ball on us when they have to and we can seem to stop them. To give up two scoring drives after taking the lead the lead is proof.

For some reason Saleh/Shanny always have their guys ready to play against us no matter how many injuries or how many players are out. The whiners always seem to have more INTENSITY than our guys. The whiners seem to want it more. Just one time I would like to see our guys play like their pants are on fire against them and actually "out physical" them.

We always look so soft against them it isn't funny! Does McVay even know what "whiner week" means? Maybe Mike Martz can fill him in lol.

mcvay can bitch all he wants about goff's 3 turnovers in last week's game, which was deserved, but while he's at it i'd like to hear him explain why shanny has owned his offense, game after game, on the vast majority of rams drives that didn't end in turnovers, would he say that's goff's fault too?

[Elvis]

In the past when McVay has talked about a particular defense shutting down his offense, like the SB, his answer will be something like it was his fault for not preparing the offense better to recognize and respond to what the defense was doing.

The implication being that his offense has answers to those problems but weren't executing them properly.

It's hard to assume what coaches say in public reflects what they think in private but i get the sense McVay thinks his offense can deal with and exploit these defenses but they're just not getting it done...

[/zn/]

It's hard to assume what coaches say in public reflects what they think in private but i get the sense McVay thinks his offense can deal with and exploit these defenses but they're just not getting it done...

And if your offense is not routinely getting it done, that's on the coordinator.

I wonder how different they would be with real OTAs and camp and pre-season.

[Hacksaw]

"Practice, we aint talkin about practice" Allen Iverson.

But it does appear that McV is right that Goff needs to take better care of the ball against SF since his offense doesn't work against them. He left that last part out in his presser.

[aeneas1]

... but i get the sense McVay thinks his offense can deal with and exploit these defenses but they're just not getting it done...

and he very well may think that, but at what point does he conclude that maybe it's not a matter of the players' inability to get it done, but rather a problem with his x's and o's? never?

i mean take the 3 of 4 losses to the niners that i mentioned above, 3 games in which the niners flat-out bitch-slapped mcvay's offense around, holding them to just 12 points per game on average, holding them to just 4 tds on 29 non-turnover drives (still trying to wrap my head around that one) - can mcvay possibly think that he actually had the niners where he wanted them in those games, that the game-plan was sound, but the offensive players simply blew it, failed to execute, in all 3 games? and apply the same question to the beat-downs his offense has seen against defenses that have schemed 6-man fronts, cover 0 and quarters, has this also been a matter of sound game-planning and the players just not executing?

if that's what he's selling, i'm not buying.... instead i see a pattern of mcvay having zero answers for certain defenses and certain defensive looks.

[Hacksaw]

instead i see a pattern of mcvay having zero answers for certain defenses and certain defensive looks.

With a clearer head it's starting to look like McV's inability to adapt to certain defenses is a bigger problem than Goff being stiff and/or rattled under pressure. And as you pointed out it's not just San Francisco's D.
My concern compounds with every reoccurrence. Fortunately not every team has the coach or the personnel to line up and do that to us.

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[Hacksaw]

Tis BTW is why I used him as an example in the thread discussing rams coaches getting poached. Since I'm wondering if he's just got McV figured out. Either way, glad he might be out of the division or at least distracted my HC duties. (see Martz)