[bluecoconuts]

Vinny said on Fred that the growing sentiment was Dean and Stan had to work something out but they still weren't there.

At the same time Mayor Butts was on Scott and BR saying just how ready Inglewood was to go. Scott said the Rams document cemented it for Inglewood. Butts said he wouldn't quite go that far since there was still a vote to be taken...

Did he say they spoke and might be close or are they still in the same spot.

[Stranger]

"The Rams’ Inglewood project is designed to host two NFL teams and can open by 2019." I may be splitting hairs but it technically didn't say it will open IN 2019.

Far from splitting hairs to me my friend. From the Rams Relocation Application:

The Rams’ Inglewood project is designed to host two NFL teams and can open
by 2019

They have said too many times the stadium will be ready by the 2018 season. They say it is shovel ready. Carson's has conceptual plans on a toxic waste dump and an additional problem with space due to the golf course they planned on using has said it is not available for sale.

I will be real interested to see what "guarantee" the Carson peeps have to say when their stadium will be finished. Sometimes when the clean up of a toxic site begins it is determined that it requires to be condemned. This Carson concept is no further than an idea that I can see.

And what happens if the Carson peeps guarantee a bogus date and then miss it? What's the penalty?

[LoyalRam]

"The Rams’ Inglewood project is designed to host two NFL teams and can open by 2019." I may be splitting hairs but it technically didn't say it will open IN 2019.

Far from splitting hairs to me my friend. From the Rams Relocation Application:

The Rams’ Inglewood project is designed to host two NFL teams and can open
by 2019

They have said too many times the stadium will be ready by the 2018 season. They say it is shovel ready. Carson's has conceptual plans on a toxic waste dump and an additional problem with space due to the golf course they planned on using has said it is not available for sale.

I will be real interested to see what "guarantee" the Carson peeps have to say when their stadium will be finished. Sometimes when the clean up of a toxic site begins it is determined that it requires to be condemned. This Carson concept is no further than an idea that I can see.

And what happens if the Carson peeps guarantee a bogus date and then miss it? What's the penalty?

ramsfansunited sends you with contract to break kneecaps!

[SWAdude]

This caught my eye. I thought there would be some fighting for St. Louis. It looks like Stan made his argument and it's a good one.

If StL is NOT viable, then they HAVE to vote to approve our move. What are their options?

Just to play devil's advocate, they could tell the Rams to stay year to year in the dome while they continue to work on a satisfactory solution in St. Louis. That's pretty much been the situation Oakland and San Diego have been in for a long time now.

Now i happen to think we're pretty much home free, mainly because Stan Kroenke is a nearly unstoppable force who holds all the cards: He owns the Rams and he owns Inglewood. He's one of the richest and most powerful owners in all of sports. Who's going to tell him he can't move his team into his stadium? Does the NFL want Stan Kroenke working for them or against them?

But i also try very hard to consider all the angles...

I too try to consider all the angles. I also try not to waste my time considering the far fetched ones, like owners trading teams.

I think what has been presented from Stan's perspective to the NFL is that the NFL plays well with him, or not. He has fulfilled all of the requirements and is moving his team to LA. He does not care if the committee approves Carson. He knows those trust fund babies can not afford to go alone. And no loan institution is going to risk loaning them money with the grand Inglewood stadium down the road. It could quickly become an albatross.

[Hacksaw]

Of course the can say they will have it done by 2019 but then when it doesn't happen oh well.

The article goes on to say "Among the requirements the teams must agree to are the relocation fee, moving procedures and guaranteeing an opening date for the new stadiums. Documentation on those requirements will be presented to the committees, which will determine if the teams are eligible for relocation."

I can see moving procedures, but the documentation required to guarantee seems impossible,, unlikely at best. Far to many unknowns and other agencies involved. Now this is assuming that all or some of the parties weren't already aware of this requirement list and prepared in advance.

[LoyalRam]

It does seem scary that Stan is having to give up his power to sue if this goes side-ways...No way he should be forced to stay in St Louis if he got everything rolling in LA, has the resources to make a dream stadium without league help, and would be forced somehow to stay in the St Louis shithole indefinately...

[SWAdude]

"The Rams’ Inglewood project is designed to host two NFL teams and can open by 2019." I may be splitting hairs but it technically didn't say it will open IN 2019.

Far from splitting hairs to me my friend. From the Rams Relocation Application:

The Rams’ Inglewood project is designed to host two NFL teams and can open
by 2019

They have said too many times the stadium will be ready by the 2018 season. They say it is shovel ready. Carson's has conceptual plans on a toxic waste dump and an additional problem with space due to the golf course they planned on using has said it is not available for sale.

I will be real interested to see what "guarantee" the Carson peeps have to say when their stadium will be finished. Sometimes when the clean up of a toxic site begins it is determined that it requires to be condemned. This Carson concept is no further than an idea that I can see.

And what happens if the Carson peeps guarantee a bogus date and then miss it? What's the penalty?

I believe the penalty really occurs when the committee in its due diligence discovers the bogus date as...........bogus. Then they are deemed not being able to follow the relocation requirements.

Apples to Apples, they would be realistic that they could guarantee the Carson stadium ready by 2021. It is far from shovel ready.

[Elvis]

No one is saying Stan has to give up his right to sue, i was just worried that could be one of the requirements. No one has said it is a requirement...

[Stranger]

Trying to get Stan to give up his right to sue really just shows how weak and scared the other owners are, or would be if they made this a reqt. Why do that if you've got a good hand? I don't think it happens.

[bluecoconuts]

No one is saying Stan has to give up his right to sue, i was just worried that could be one of the requirements. No one has said it is a requirement...

My guess is that his allies wouldn't allow that to be part of the requirements, and if they put that there it would signal to him that they know they couldn't stop him.