by Hacksaw 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #341 TOPIC AUTHOR 99Balloons liked this post Money grab by StL. A billion dollars? That's 25% the teams worth. I seem to recall the team being dubiously ripped away from LA and moved to StL. Did LA file a law suit against Georgia? Her plan was to begin selling off any valuable asset to begin some kind of rebuilding process. The front office failed to replenish the talent that left, and the Rams did not win more than six games in any of their final five seasons in L.A. I don't want to hear any argument from StL that they were cheated. Frontiere almost moved the team to the city that had already lost one franchise, Baltimore, in 1993. Although the owners rejected the proposal to relocate the team from Southern California to Baltimore, the damage was done. The NFL clearly didn't want the Rams to leave LA but the fans rejected Frontiere’s behavior and their interest in the Rams entered a death spiral. Same as in StL 20 some years later.As Frontiere began to look at options in other cities, a group of business and civic leaders formed FANS Inc., an organization dedicated to lure an NFL team to St. Louis in 1994. Over the next 12 months, FANS Inc. met with Frontiere to strike a deal to move the team to the Midwest. So StL colluded (in a sense) to take LA's team.Trying to keep the team in Southern California, a homegrown movement led by Leigh Steinberg attempted to keep the franchise from moving out of town. Repeatedly, Steinberg offered to buy the franchise. Frontiere ignored Steinberg’s 'Save the Rams' and continued with her plans to split. I don't think StL can cry foul against ESK for possibly doing the exact same thing his predecessor did. In January 1995, the city of St. Louis and Rams owner Georgia Frontiere agreed to the relocation of the franchise to the Gateway City. The NFL initially denied the Rams’ relocation request. However, Frontiere responded by threatening to sue the league. Not willing to face a court battle, the NFL reluctantly voted 23-6 to approve the relocation in April 1995.This is some kind of money grab BS. This crap get's my blood boiling. What's good for the goose isn't apparently good for the gander in StL.Speaking of that, , I wonder what ever happened to Goose Ganders from RRF ? He was a great poster. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #342 by Hacksaw 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #343 TOPIC AUTHOR 99Balloons liked this post Why does the rigged election rhetoric come to mind. Sore losers too .. I wonder if other, or expansion franchises are taking notes...Riverfront was a overleveraged suspect deal anyway... GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #344 by PARAM 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 13204 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL lawsuit likely headed to trial POST #345 snackdaddy wrote:my oldest grandkid is a sophomore in high school. He's already thinking about college. I'm going to tell him to do everything he can to be a lawyer. Those guys get rich off shit like this. This a big deal in St Louis. The rest of the country? Not so much. Meanwhile, I wonder if my town can sue the Red Lobster for leaving? I really miss that place.Yeah, that's what's ridiculous about this lawsuit. The NFL is a business. If any business....Amazon, General Motors, AT & T, whatever.... and had a lease agreement in a city (regardless if they got tax breaks), once that lease is up and they decide to move, they should be allowed to move. The genesis of this entire controversy is the City of St. Louis entered a deal with the Rams knowing much more than they let on to their citizens. First, they knew there was no way they could honor the part of the lease agreement that kept the ED in the top 25% of NFL stadiums. And they didn't care. The politicians who negotiated the agreement got what they wanted.....serious attaboys for getting the NFL back in town.....and then once the Rams decided they weren't going to make the jack in St. Louis, they could make in L.A., they moved. St. Louis knew going in, they were only renting the team with an eye towards a miracle if they could keep them. 21 years. They got two decades of NFL football and a Superbowl Champion. That's more than L.A. has received in 54 years. Get over it. I can't stand when politicians get into shit they shouldn't, then hire lawyers in hopes of getting compensated even more than they deserve. The fans are the ones who lose, either way. Haven't the Rams been ordered to pay money to the fans for PSL's? What do they owe? Trauma and permanent injury? I don't understand. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by snackdaddy 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10041 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #346 I think the trial will be in st louis. IIRC, they were denied a change of venue. After all the Kroenke, Rams and NFL trashing from the local media does anyone really think they can find a non biased jury? by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL lawsuit likely headed to trial POST #347 PARAM wrote:I can't stand when politicians get into shit they shouldn't, then hire lawyers in hopes of getting compensated even more than they deserve.I'm not trying to white knight for anyone: but there are no politicians backing this current lawsuit. This is a total cash grab by a law firm seeing dollar signs in their eyes.PARAM wrote:The fans are the ones who lose, either way. Haven't the Rams been ordered to pay money to the fans for PSL's? What do they owe? Trauma and permanent injury? I don't understand.The first lawsuit for years 22 to 30 of the PSLs has been settled. We already got our checks. This second lawsuit is totally separate ambulance chasing. Again, IMHO Stan should pay the $20 to 40 million for the North Riverfront proposal. Specifically the parts when Demoff said "good job" on the first wave and asked for design revisions. (parking garage, redo the upper deck/lights, party plaza, changes to suites/club seats, etc) That and he shouldn't get to buy Rams Park for a $1 in 2025. He should wave his claim or give it to a charity.I also want the rules solidified so the NFL can't as easily extort public money from Cincinnati, Nashville, Carolina, DC and other places that have leases expiring over the next decade. by PARAM 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 13204 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL lawsuit likely headed to trial POST #348 St. Loser Fan wrote:Again, IMHO Stan should pay the $20 to 40 million for the North Riverfront proposal. Specifically the parts when Demoff said "good job" on the first wave and asked for design revisions. (parking garage, redo the upper deck/lights, party plaza, changes to suites/club seats, etc) That and he shouldn't get to buy Rams Park for a $1 in 2025. He should wave his claim or give it to a charity.I also want the rules solidified so the NFL can't as easily extort public money from Cincinnati, Nashville, Carolina, DC and other places that have leases expiring over the next decade.And I'm not trying to take the Rams side but......Was that $20 to $40 million for the N.R. proposal or the parking garage? I can see them being made to pay for the 'revisions' but it was not the Rams idea to propose the new stadium. The thing is teams have moved all over the country since the 20's in the NFL. The only decade since then, when there wasn't a move was from 2000-2015. And St. Louis is hardly the most slighted city in America. That would go to Cleveland, Baltimore and Los Angeles. Oakland has suffered the same fate as St. Louis, except they didn't spend a ton of money on a lost cause. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by majik 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #349 Guidelines are not rules or requirements regarding relocation. If St. Louis spent money thinking there was no way the Rams could move, there are bigger fools than anyone could imagine. by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #350 majik wrote:Guidelines are not rules or requirements regarding relocation. If St. Louis spent money thinking there was no way the Rams could move, there are bigger fools than anyone could imagine.And if St. Louis hadn’t done anything you’d be “St. Louis were big fools for not trying. The Rams would have stayed if they’d just produced a financed stadium proposal and detailed designs.”Either way we’re idiots in your eyes. Reply 35 / 88 1 35 88 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 875 posts Jun 27 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #342 by Hacksaw 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #343 TOPIC AUTHOR 99Balloons liked this post Why does the rigged election rhetoric come to mind. Sore losers too .. I wonder if other, or expansion franchises are taking notes...Riverfront was a overleveraged suspect deal anyway... GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #344 by PARAM 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 13204 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL lawsuit likely headed to trial POST #345 snackdaddy wrote:my oldest grandkid is a sophomore in high school. He's already thinking about college. I'm going to tell him to do everything he can to be a lawyer. Those guys get rich off shit like this. This a big deal in St Louis. The rest of the country? Not so much. Meanwhile, I wonder if my town can sue the Red Lobster for leaving? I really miss that place.Yeah, that's what's ridiculous about this lawsuit. The NFL is a business. If any business....Amazon, General Motors, AT & T, whatever.... and had a lease agreement in a city (regardless if they got tax breaks), once that lease is up and they decide to move, they should be allowed to move. The genesis of this entire controversy is the City of St. Louis entered a deal with the Rams knowing much more than they let on to their citizens. First, they knew there was no way they could honor the part of the lease agreement that kept the ED in the top 25% of NFL stadiums. And they didn't care. The politicians who negotiated the agreement got what they wanted.....serious attaboys for getting the NFL back in town.....and then once the Rams decided they weren't going to make the jack in St. Louis, they could make in L.A., they moved. St. Louis knew going in, they were only renting the team with an eye towards a miracle if they could keep them. 21 years. They got two decades of NFL football and a Superbowl Champion. That's more than L.A. has received in 54 years. Get over it. I can't stand when politicians get into shit they shouldn't, then hire lawyers in hopes of getting compensated even more than they deserve. The fans are the ones who lose, either way. Haven't the Rams been ordered to pay money to the fans for PSL's? What do they owe? Trauma and permanent injury? I don't understand. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by snackdaddy 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10041 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #346 I think the trial will be in st louis. IIRC, they were denied a change of venue. After all the Kroenke, Rams and NFL trashing from the local media does anyone really think they can find a non biased jury? by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL lawsuit likely headed to trial POST #347 PARAM wrote:I can't stand when politicians get into shit they shouldn't, then hire lawyers in hopes of getting compensated even more than they deserve.I'm not trying to white knight for anyone: but there are no politicians backing this current lawsuit. This is a total cash grab by a law firm seeing dollar signs in their eyes.PARAM wrote:The fans are the ones who lose, either way. Haven't the Rams been ordered to pay money to the fans for PSL's? What do they owe? Trauma and permanent injury? I don't understand.The first lawsuit for years 22 to 30 of the PSLs has been settled. We already got our checks. This second lawsuit is totally separate ambulance chasing. Again, IMHO Stan should pay the $20 to 40 million for the North Riverfront proposal. Specifically the parts when Demoff said "good job" on the first wave and asked for design revisions. (parking garage, redo the upper deck/lights, party plaza, changes to suites/club seats, etc) That and he shouldn't get to buy Rams Park for a $1 in 2025. He should wave his claim or give it to a charity.I also want the rules solidified so the NFL can't as easily extort public money from Cincinnati, Nashville, Carolina, DC and other places that have leases expiring over the next decade. by PARAM 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 13204 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL lawsuit likely headed to trial POST #348 St. Loser Fan wrote:Again, IMHO Stan should pay the $20 to 40 million for the North Riverfront proposal. Specifically the parts when Demoff said "good job" on the first wave and asked for design revisions. (parking garage, redo the upper deck/lights, party plaza, changes to suites/club seats, etc) That and he shouldn't get to buy Rams Park for a $1 in 2025. He should wave his claim or give it to a charity.I also want the rules solidified so the NFL can't as easily extort public money from Cincinnati, Nashville, Carolina, DC and other places that have leases expiring over the next decade.And I'm not trying to take the Rams side but......Was that $20 to $40 million for the N.R. proposal or the parking garage? I can see them being made to pay for the 'revisions' but it was not the Rams idea to propose the new stadium. The thing is teams have moved all over the country since the 20's in the NFL. The only decade since then, when there wasn't a move was from 2000-2015. And St. Louis is hardly the most slighted city in America. That would go to Cleveland, Baltimore and Los Angeles. Oakland has suffered the same fate as St. Louis, except they didn't spend a ton of money on a lost cause. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by majik 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #349 Guidelines are not rules or requirements regarding relocation. If St. Louis spent money thinking there was no way the Rams could move, there are bigger fools than anyone could imagine. by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #350 majik wrote:Guidelines are not rules or requirements regarding relocation. If St. Louis spent money thinking there was no way the Rams could move, there are bigger fools than anyone could imagine.And if St. Louis hadn’t done anything you’d be “St. Louis were big fools for not trying. The Rams would have stayed if they’d just produced a financed stadium proposal and detailed designs.”Either way we’re idiots in your eyes. Reply 35 / 88 1 35 88 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 875 posts Jun 27 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Hacksaw 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #343 TOPIC AUTHOR 99Balloons liked this post Why does the rigged election rhetoric come to mind. Sore losers too .. I wonder if other, or expansion franchises are taking notes...Riverfront was a overleveraged suspect deal anyway... GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #344 by PARAM 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 13204 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL lawsuit likely headed to trial POST #345 snackdaddy wrote:my oldest grandkid is a sophomore in high school. He's already thinking about college. I'm going to tell him to do everything he can to be a lawyer. Those guys get rich off shit like this. This a big deal in St Louis. The rest of the country? Not so much. Meanwhile, I wonder if my town can sue the Red Lobster for leaving? I really miss that place.Yeah, that's what's ridiculous about this lawsuit. The NFL is a business. If any business....Amazon, General Motors, AT & T, whatever.... and had a lease agreement in a city (regardless if they got tax breaks), once that lease is up and they decide to move, they should be allowed to move. The genesis of this entire controversy is the City of St. Louis entered a deal with the Rams knowing much more than they let on to their citizens. First, they knew there was no way they could honor the part of the lease agreement that kept the ED in the top 25% of NFL stadiums. And they didn't care. The politicians who negotiated the agreement got what they wanted.....serious attaboys for getting the NFL back in town.....and then once the Rams decided they weren't going to make the jack in St. Louis, they could make in L.A., they moved. St. Louis knew going in, they were only renting the team with an eye towards a miracle if they could keep them. 21 years. They got two decades of NFL football and a Superbowl Champion. That's more than L.A. has received in 54 years. Get over it. I can't stand when politicians get into shit they shouldn't, then hire lawyers in hopes of getting compensated even more than they deserve. The fans are the ones who lose, either way. Haven't the Rams been ordered to pay money to the fans for PSL's? What do they owe? Trauma and permanent injury? I don't understand. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by snackdaddy 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10041 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #346 I think the trial will be in st louis. IIRC, they were denied a change of venue. After all the Kroenke, Rams and NFL trashing from the local media does anyone really think they can find a non biased jury? by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL lawsuit likely headed to trial POST #347 PARAM wrote:I can't stand when politicians get into shit they shouldn't, then hire lawyers in hopes of getting compensated even more than they deserve.I'm not trying to white knight for anyone: but there are no politicians backing this current lawsuit. This is a total cash grab by a law firm seeing dollar signs in their eyes.PARAM wrote:The fans are the ones who lose, either way. Haven't the Rams been ordered to pay money to the fans for PSL's? What do they owe? Trauma and permanent injury? I don't understand.The first lawsuit for years 22 to 30 of the PSLs has been settled. We already got our checks. This second lawsuit is totally separate ambulance chasing. Again, IMHO Stan should pay the $20 to 40 million for the North Riverfront proposal. Specifically the parts when Demoff said "good job" on the first wave and asked for design revisions. (parking garage, redo the upper deck/lights, party plaza, changes to suites/club seats, etc) That and he shouldn't get to buy Rams Park for a $1 in 2025. He should wave his claim or give it to a charity.I also want the rules solidified so the NFL can't as easily extort public money from Cincinnati, Nashville, Carolina, DC and other places that have leases expiring over the next decade. by PARAM 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 13204 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL lawsuit likely headed to trial POST #348 St. Loser Fan wrote:Again, IMHO Stan should pay the $20 to 40 million for the North Riverfront proposal. Specifically the parts when Demoff said "good job" on the first wave and asked for design revisions. (parking garage, redo the upper deck/lights, party plaza, changes to suites/club seats, etc) That and he shouldn't get to buy Rams Park for a $1 in 2025. He should wave his claim or give it to a charity.I also want the rules solidified so the NFL can't as easily extort public money from Cincinnati, Nashville, Carolina, DC and other places that have leases expiring over the next decade.And I'm not trying to take the Rams side but......Was that $20 to $40 million for the N.R. proposal or the parking garage? I can see them being made to pay for the 'revisions' but it was not the Rams idea to propose the new stadium. The thing is teams have moved all over the country since the 20's in the NFL. The only decade since then, when there wasn't a move was from 2000-2015. And St. Louis is hardly the most slighted city in America. That would go to Cleveland, Baltimore and Los Angeles. Oakland has suffered the same fate as St. Louis, except they didn't spend a ton of money on a lost cause. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by majik 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #349 Guidelines are not rules or requirements regarding relocation. If St. Louis spent money thinking there was no way the Rams could move, there are bigger fools than anyone could imagine. by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #350 majik wrote:Guidelines are not rules or requirements regarding relocation. If St. Louis spent money thinking there was no way the Rams could move, there are bigger fools than anyone could imagine.And if St. Louis hadn’t done anything you’d be “St. Louis were big fools for not trying. The Rams would have stayed if they’d just produced a financed stadium proposal and detailed designs.”Either way we’re idiots in your eyes. Reply 35 / 88 1 35 88 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 875 posts Jun 27 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #344 by PARAM 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 13204 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL lawsuit likely headed to trial POST #345 snackdaddy wrote:my oldest grandkid is a sophomore in high school. He's already thinking about college. I'm going to tell him to do everything he can to be a lawyer. Those guys get rich off shit like this. This a big deal in St Louis. The rest of the country? Not so much. Meanwhile, I wonder if my town can sue the Red Lobster for leaving? I really miss that place.Yeah, that's what's ridiculous about this lawsuit. The NFL is a business. If any business....Amazon, General Motors, AT & T, whatever.... and had a lease agreement in a city (regardless if they got tax breaks), once that lease is up and they decide to move, they should be allowed to move. The genesis of this entire controversy is the City of St. Louis entered a deal with the Rams knowing much more than they let on to their citizens. First, they knew there was no way they could honor the part of the lease agreement that kept the ED in the top 25% of NFL stadiums. And they didn't care. The politicians who negotiated the agreement got what they wanted.....serious attaboys for getting the NFL back in town.....and then once the Rams decided they weren't going to make the jack in St. Louis, they could make in L.A., they moved. St. Louis knew going in, they were only renting the team with an eye towards a miracle if they could keep them. 21 years. They got two decades of NFL football and a Superbowl Champion. That's more than L.A. has received in 54 years. Get over it. I can't stand when politicians get into shit they shouldn't, then hire lawyers in hopes of getting compensated even more than they deserve. The fans are the ones who lose, either way. Haven't the Rams been ordered to pay money to the fans for PSL's? What do they owe? Trauma and permanent injury? I don't understand. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by snackdaddy 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10041 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #346 I think the trial will be in st louis. IIRC, they were denied a change of venue. After all the Kroenke, Rams and NFL trashing from the local media does anyone really think they can find a non biased jury? by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL lawsuit likely headed to trial POST #347 PARAM wrote:I can't stand when politicians get into shit they shouldn't, then hire lawyers in hopes of getting compensated even more than they deserve.I'm not trying to white knight for anyone: but there are no politicians backing this current lawsuit. This is a total cash grab by a law firm seeing dollar signs in their eyes.PARAM wrote:The fans are the ones who lose, either way. Haven't the Rams been ordered to pay money to the fans for PSL's? What do they owe? Trauma and permanent injury? I don't understand.The first lawsuit for years 22 to 30 of the PSLs has been settled. We already got our checks. This second lawsuit is totally separate ambulance chasing. Again, IMHO Stan should pay the $20 to 40 million for the North Riverfront proposal. Specifically the parts when Demoff said "good job" on the first wave and asked for design revisions. (parking garage, redo the upper deck/lights, party plaza, changes to suites/club seats, etc) That and he shouldn't get to buy Rams Park for a $1 in 2025. He should wave his claim or give it to a charity.I also want the rules solidified so the NFL can't as easily extort public money from Cincinnati, Nashville, Carolina, DC and other places that have leases expiring over the next decade. by PARAM 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 13204 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL lawsuit likely headed to trial POST #348 St. Loser Fan wrote:Again, IMHO Stan should pay the $20 to 40 million for the North Riverfront proposal. Specifically the parts when Demoff said "good job" on the first wave and asked for design revisions. (parking garage, redo the upper deck/lights, party plaza, changes to suites/club seats, etc) That and he shouldn't get to buy Rams Park for a $1 in 2025. He should wave his claim or give it to a charity.I also want the rules solidified so the NFL can't as easily extort public money from Cincinnati, Nashville, Carolina, DC and other places that have leases expiring over the next decade.And I'm not trying to take the Rams side but......Was that $20 to $40 million for the N.R. proposal or the parking garage? I can see them being made to pay for the 'revisions' but it was not the Rams idea to propose the new stadium. The thing is teams have moved all over the country since the 20's in the NFL. The only decade since then, when there wasn't a move was from 2000-2015. And St. Louis is hardly the most slighted city in America. That would go to Cleveland, Baltimore and Los Angeles. Oakland has suffered the same fate as St. Louis, except they didn't spend a ton of money on a lost cause. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by majik 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #349 Guidelines are not rules or requirements regarding relocation. If St. Louis spent money thinking there was no way the Rams could move, there are bigger fools than anyone could imagine. by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #350 majik wrote:Guidelines are not rules or requirements regarding relocation. If St. Louis spent money thinking there was no way the Rams could move, there are bigger fools than anyone could imagine.And if St. Louis hadn’t done anything you’d be “St. Louis were big fools for not trying. The Rams would have stayed if they’d just produced a financed stadium proposal and detailed designs.”Either way we’re idiots in your eyes. Reply 35 / 88 1 35 88 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 875 posts Jun 27 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by PARAM 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 13204 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL lawsuit likely headed to trial POST #345 snackdaddy wrote:my oldest grandkid is a sophomore in high school. He's already thinking about college. I'm going to tell him to do everything he can to be a lawyer. Those guys get rich off shit like this. This a big deal in St Louis. The rest of the country? Not so much. Meanwhile, I wonder if my town can sue the Red Lobster for leaving? I really miss that place.Yeah, that's what's ridiculous about this lawsuit. The NFL is a business. If any business....Amazon, General Motors, AT & T, whatever.... and had a lease agreement in a city (regardless if they got tax breaks), once that lease is up and they decide to move, they should be allowed to move. The genesis of this entire controversy is the City of St. Louis entered a deal with the Rams knowing much more than they let on to their citizens. First, they knew there was no way they could honor the part of the lease agreement that kept the ED in the top 25% of NFL stadiums. And they didn't care. The politicians who negotiated the agreement got what they wanted.....serious attaboys for getting the NFL back in town.....and then once the Rams decided they weren't going to make the jack in St. Louis, they could make in L.A., they moved. St. Louis knew going in, they were only renting the team with an eye towards a miracle if they could keep them. 21 years. They got two decades of NFL football and a Superbowl Champion. That's more than L.A. has received in 54 years. Get over it. I can't stand when politicians get into shit they shouldn't, then hire lawyers in hopes of getting compensated even more than they deserve. The fans are the ones who lose, either way. Haven't the Rams been ordered to pay money to the fans for PSL's? What do they owe? Trauma and permanent injury? I don't understand. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by snackdaddy 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10041 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #346 I think the trial will be in st louis. IIRC, they were denied a change of venue. After all the Kroenke, Rams and NFL trashing from the local media does anyone really think they can find a non biased jury? by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL lawsuit likely headed to trial POST #347 PARAM wrote:I can't stand when politicians get into shit they shouldn't, then hire lawyers in hopes of getting compensated even more than they deserve.I'm not trying to white knight for anyone: but there are no politicians backing this current lawsuit. This is a total cash grab by a law firm seeing dollar signs in their eyes.PARAM wrote:The fans are the ones who lose, either way. Haven't the Rams been ordered to pay money to the fans for PSL's? What do they owe? Trauma and permanent injury? I don't understand.The first lawsuit for years 22 to 30 of the PSLs has been settled. We already got our checks. This second lawsuit is totally separate ambulance chasing. Again, IMHO Stan should pay the $20 to 40 million for the North Riverfront proposal. Specifically the parts when Demoff said "good job" on the first wave and asked for design revisions. (parking garage, redo the upper deck/lights, party plaza, changes to suites/club seats, etc) That and he shouldn't get to buy Rams Park for a $1 in 2025. He should wave his claim or give it to a charity.I also want the rules solidified so the NFL can't as easily extort public money from Cincinnati, Nashville, Carolina, DC and other places that have leases expiring over the next decade. by PARAM 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 13204 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL lawsuit likely headed to trial POST #348 St. Loser Fan wrote:Again, IMHO Stan should pay the $20 to 40 million for the North Riverfront proposal. Specifically the parts when Demoff said "good job" on the first wave and asked for design revisions. (parking garage, redo the upper deck/lights, party plaza, changes to suites/club seats, etc) That and he shouldn't get to buy Rams Park for a $1 in 2025. He should wave his claim or give it to a charity.I also want the rules solidified so the NFL can't as easily extort public money from Cincinnati, Nashville, Carolina, DC and other places that have leases expiring over the next decade.And I'm not trying to take the Rams side but......Was that $20 to $40 million for the N.R. proposal or the parking garage? I can see them being made to pay for the 'revisions' but it was not the Rams idea to propose the new stadium. The thing is teams have moved all over the country since the 20's in the NFL. The only decade since then, when there wasn't a move was from 2000-2015. And St. Louis is hardly the most slighted city in America. That would go to Cleveland, Baltimore and Los Angeles. Oakland has suffered the same fate as St. Louis, except they didn't spend a ton of money on a lost cause. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by majik 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #349 Guidelines are not rules or requirements regarding relocation. If St. Louis spent money thinking there was no way the Rams could move, there are bigger fools than anyone could imagine. by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #350 majik wrote:Guidelines are not rules or requirements regarding relocation. If St. Louis spent money thinking there was no way the Rams could move, there are bigger fools than anyone could imagine.And if St. Louis hadn’t done anything you’d be “St. Louis were big fools for not trying. The Rams would have stayed if they’d just produced a financed stadium proposal and detailed designs.”Either way we’re idiots in your eyes. Reply 35 / 88 1 35 88 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 875 posts Jun 27 2025
by snackdaddy 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10041 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #346 I think the trial will be in st louis. IIRC, they were denied a change of venue. After all the Kroenke, Rams and NFL trashing from the local media does anyone really think they can find a non biased jury? by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL lawsuit likely headed to trial POST #347 PARAM wrote:I can't stand when politicians get into shit they shouldn't, then hire lawyers in hopes of getting compensated even more than they deserve.I'm not trying to white knight for anyone: but there are no politicians backing this current lawsuit. This is a total cash grab by a law firm seeing dollar signs in their eyes.PARAM wrote:The fans are the ones who lose, either way. Haven't the Rams been ordered to pay money to the fans for PSL's? What do they owe? Trauma and permanent injury? I don't understand.The first lawsuit for years 22 to 30 of the PSLs has been settled. We already got our checks. This second lawsuit is totally separate ambulance chasing. Again, IMHO Stan should pay the $20 to 40 million for the North Riverfront proposal. Specifically the parts when Demoff said "good job" on the first wave and asked for design revisions. (parking garage, redo the upper deck/lights, party plaza, changes to suites/club seats, etc) That and he shouldn't get to buy Rams Park for a $1 in 2025. He should wave his claim or give it to a charity.I also want the rules solidified so the NFL can't as easily extort public money from Cincinnati, Nashville, Carolina, DC and other places that have leases expiring over the next decade. by PARAM 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 13204 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL lawsuit likely headed to trial POST #348 St. Loser Fan wrote:Again, IMHO Stan should pay the $20 to 40 million for the North Riverfront proposal. Specifically the parts when Demoff said "good job" on the first wave and asked for design revisions. (parking garage, redo the upper deck/lights, party plaza, changes to suites/club seats, etc) That and he shouldn't get to buy Rams Park for a $1 in 2025. He should wave his claim or give it to a charity.I also want the rules solidified so the NFL can't as easily extort public money from Cincinnati, Nashville, Carolina, DC and other places that have leases expiring over the next decade.And I'm not trying to take the Rams side but......Was that $20 to $40 million for the N.R. proposal or the parking garage? I can see them being made to pay for the 'revisions' but it was not the Rams idea to propose the new stadium. The thing is teams have moved all over the country since the 20's in the NFL. The only decade since then, when there wasn't a move was from 2000-2015. And St. Louis is hardly the most slighted city in America. That would go to Cleveland, Baltimore and Los Angeles. Oakland has suffered the same fate as St. Louis, except they didn't spend a ton of money on a lost cause. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by majik 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #349 Guidelines are not rules or requirements regarding relocation. If St. Louis spent money thinking there was no way the Rams could move, there are bigger fools than anyone could imagine. by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #350 majik wrote:Guidelines are not rules or requirements regarding relocation. If St. Louis spent money thinking there was no way the Rams could move, there are bigger fools than anyone could imagine.And if St. Louis hadn’t done anything you’d be “St. Louis were big fools for not trying. The Rams would have stayed if they’d just produced a financed stadium proposal and detailed designs.”Either way we’re idiots in your eyes. Reply 35 / 88 1 35 88 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 875 posts Jun 27 2025
by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL lawsuit likely headed to trial POST #347 PARAM wrote:I can't stand when politicians get into shit they shouldn't, then hire lawyers in hopes of getting compensated even more than they deserve.I'm not trying to white knight for anyone: but there are no politicians backing this current lawsuit. This is a total cash grab by a law firm seeing dollar signs in their eyes.PARAM wrote:The fans are the ones who lose, either way. Haven't the Rams been ordered to pay money to the fans for PSL's? What do they owe? Trauma and permanent injury? I don't understand.The first lawsuit for years 22 to 30 of the PSLs has been settled. We already got our checks. This second lawsuit is totally separate ambulance chasing. Again, IMHO Stan should pay the $20 to 40 million for the North Riverfront proposal. Specifically the parts when Demoff said "good job" on the first wave and asked for design revisions. (parking garage, redo the upper deck/lights, party plaza, changes to suites/club seats, etc) That and he shouldn't get to buy Rams Park for a $1 in 2025. He should wave his claim or give it to a charity.I also want the rules solidified so the NFL can't as easily extort public money from Cincinnati, Nashville, Carolina, DC and other places that have leases expiring over the next decade. by PARAM 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 13204 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL lawsuit likely headed to trial POST #348 St. Loser Fan wrote:Again, IMHO Stan should pay the $20 to 40 million for the North Riverfront proposal. Specifically the parts when Demoff said "good job" on the first wave and asked for design revisions. (parking garage, redo the upper deck/lights, party plaza, changes to suites/club seats, etc) That and he shouldn't get to buy Rams Park for a $1 in 2025. He should wave his claim or give it to a charity.I also want the rules solidified so the NFL can't as easily extort public money from Cincinnati, Nashville, Carolina, DC and other places that have leases expiring over the next decade.And I'm not trying to take the Rams side but......Was that $20 to $40 million for the N.R. proposal or the parking garage? I can see them being made to pay for the 'revisions' but it was not the Rams idea to propose the new stadium. The thing is teams have moved all over the country since the 20's in the NFL. The only decade since then, when there wasn't a move was from 2000-2015. And St. Louis is hardly the most slighted city in America. That would go to Cleveland, Baltimore and Los Angeles. Oakland has suffered the same fate as St. Louis, except they didn't spend a ton of money on a lost cause. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by majik 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #349 Guidelines are not rules or requirements regarding relocation. If St. Louis spent money thinking there was no way the Rams could move, there are bigger fools than anyone could imagine. by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #350 majik wrote:Guidelines are not rules or requirements regarding relocation. If St. Louis spent money thinking there was no way the Rams could move, there are bigger fools than anyone could imagine.And if St. Louis hadn’t done anything you’d be “St. Louis were big fools for not trying. The Rams would have stayed if they’d just produced a financed stadium proposal and detailed designs.”Either way we’re idiots in your eyes. Reply 35 / 88 1 35 88 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 875 posts Jun 27 2025
by PARAM 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 13204 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL lawsuit likely headed to trial POST #348 St. Loser Fan wrote:Again, IMHO Stan should pay the $20 to 40 million for the North Riverfront proposal. Specifically the parts when Demoff said "good job" on the first wave and asked for design revisions. (parking garage, redo the upper deck/lights, party plaza, changes to suites/club seats, etc) That and he shouldn't get to buy Rams Park for a $1 in 2025. He should wave his claim or give it to a charity.I also want the rules solidified so the NFL can't as easily extort public money from Cincinnati, Nashville, Carolina, DC and other places that have leases expiring over the next decade.And I'm not trying to take the Rams side but......Was that $20 to $40 million for the N.R. proposal or the parking garage? I can see them being made to pay for the 'revisions' but it was not the Rams idea to propose the new stadium. The thing is teams have moved all over the country since the 20's in the NFL. The only decade since then, when there wasn't a move was from 2000-2015. And St. Louis is hardly the most slighted city in America. That would go to Cleveland, Baltimore and Los Angeles. Oakland has suffered the same fate as St. Louis, except they didn't spend a ton of money on a lost cause. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by majik 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #349 Guidelines are not rules or requirements regarding relocation. If St. Louis spent money thinking there was no way the Rams could move, there are bigger fools than anyone could imagine. by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #350 majik wrote:Guidelines are not rules or requirements regarding relocation. If St. Louis spent money thinking there was no way the Rams could move, there are bigger fools than anyone could imagine.And if St. Louis hadn’t done anything you’d be “St. Louis were big fools for not trying. The Rams would have stayed if they’d just produced a financed stadium proposal and detailed designs.”Either way we’re idiots in your eyes. Reply 35 / 88 1 35 88 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 875 posts Jun 27 2025
by majik 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #349 Guidelines are not rules or requirements regarding relocation. If St. Louis spent money thinking there was no way the Rams could move, there are bigger fools than anyone could imagine. by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #350 majik wrote:Guidelines are not rules or requirements regarding relocation. If St. Louis spent money thinking there was no way the Rams could move, there are bigger fools than anyone could imagine.And if St. Louis hadn’t done anything you’d be “St. Louis were big fools for not trying. The Rams would have stayed if they’d just produced a financed stadium proposal and detailed designs.”Either way we’re idiots in your eyes. Reply 35 / 88 1 35 88 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 875 posts Jun 27 2025
by St. Loser Fan 4 years 4 months ago Total posts: 10882 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame St. Louis NFL Rams Various Lawsuits POST #350 majik wrote:Guidelines are not rules or requirements regarding relocation. If St. Louis spent money thinking there was no way the Rams could move, there are bigger fools than anyone could imagine.And if St. Louis hadn’t done anything you’d be “St. Louis were big fools for not trying. The Rams would have stayed if they’d just produced a financed stadium proposal and detailed designs.”Either way we’re idiots in your eyes. Reply 35 / 88 1 35 88 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business