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 by RedAlice
4 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   6781  
 Joined:  Aug 07 2015
United States of America   Seattle
Hall of Fame

So Goff isn’t a “legit NFL QB”?

LMAO

 by snackdaddy
4 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   10049  
 Joined:  May 30 2015
United States of America   Merced California
Hall of Fame

moklerman wrote:Brush it off if you want but you specifically made a point of diminishing Mayfield's 27/17 rookie year and now you're twisting yourself into knots trying to illustrate that Goff isn't as bad as the numbers show.


So just how bad is he?

 by PARAM
4 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   13221  
 Joined:  Jul 15 2015
Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
Hall of Fame

aeneas1 wrote:you have to wonder if and when the time comes if the rams would move in the direction of a mobile guy given the current rage, given the recent success of some of these guys (altho murray mvp talk has cooled considerably in the last 4-5 weeks, not to mention some of the mobile guys over the years that had little or no success).

time will tell.


"The Rage" has a way of calming down. How hot is Lamar Jackson right now? Isn't he the reigning MVP? 6-5?

But back to Goff.

Here's what his college OC had to say about him....
“I’ve created a monster,” says Bears offensive coordinator Tony Franklin, grinning with the air of a mad scientist giving a laboratory tour. A Dykes collaborator since 2010, Franklin has never before had the same quarterback to work on for three consecutive years in this system. In junior Jared Goff, he’s found natural talent and supernatural composure, neither of which seems to have tapered off since Goff became the first true freshman quarterback to start a season opener for Cal in 2013.

“You knew you had something by his talent in that first spring,” Franklin says. “Watching him compete for the starting job, he wasn’t afraid. And then in that opening game, he had two tipped pick-sixes. Not his fault. He didn’t blink. During the season, he had bad performances. He had times when I benched him. And I mean, he did not blink.”

Two years later, in rare practice moments when he’s not actively throwing, Goff can be seen stalking around the turf observing the action with his arms behind his back, in unconscious imitation of his instructors. Franklin swears Goff is taller than he was as a sophomore. He’s developed a coachly midrange stare of vague self-dissatisfaction that he deploys in a press conference following a game with a margin of victory that is not to his liking, after a performance consisting of completions on 33 of 45 passes for 390 yards, one interception, and four touchdowns that Dykes will later characterize as “benign.”3 And he’s in such total command of everything, Goff has been granted the freedom to alter play calls on the field. This is familiar territory for Dykes, who went particularly loose on the reins with Graham Harrell during his time coordinating for Mike Leach at Texas Tech, but for Franklin it’s a first, and the adjustment process has been harrowing, like the parent of a student driver mashing a phantom brake pedal from the passenger seat.4 “I’ve never let anybody do that. Ever. It’s been hard for me to give up,” Franklin says. “I never want him to feel that he has the pressure to be right; I want it to be my mistake.”


From backwards to the top, OC's make mistakes? :o

For the fans who want to see him yell at O lineman after a sack or WR's after a pick where they don't compete enough for the ball, it just doesn't seem like that's part of his character. If the O lineman screwed up and allowed somebody a clean rush, he probably feels he should have seen that and got rid of the ball. If a WR runs a comeback and allows the DB to outmuscle him for the ball (Jefferson vs. Buffalo), Goff probably feels like he could have put the ball in a better place. He probably doesn't take as much heart in "you gotta trust your guys will fight for the ball" as much as not putting his receivers in position to fight for the ball.

He doesn't blink. He's been benched. He's got "supernatural composure". Sure that's an article from college and this is the NFL but he seems to have the guts to succeed. Clearly he has the talent. We'll see, starting today, I would guess.

 by Hacksaw
4 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   24523  
 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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Rams need to run more. Success there and Goff will be fine..

 by sloramfan
4 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   1581  
 Joined:  Jun 09 2015
United States of America   cen coast cal
Pro Bowl

goff is fine... he just needs to shore up the turnovers...

saying we are going nowhere with goff is utter foolishness on steroids...

he can make any throw and already has... i'll take his accuracy ALL DAY LONG...

no one on this site hates losing to the niners more than i do...

lets bring home a win from the desert... it'll be good for what ails us

go rams

slo

 by FMulder
4 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   287  
 Joined:  Dec 11 2016
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Rookie

For me Goff is more of a complimentary vs “leading” qb. What I mean by that is when Gurley was top dog and earlier this season when the Rams running game was surprisingly effective, Goff was fantastic at 1st downs with the D maybe not totally expecting pass or the 2nd or 3rd and manageables. To me it’s where it is 2nd and 8 and 3rd and long that he is not as effective. There are a lot of QBs who are like that vs those elite QBs who can convert the 2nd and 3rd and longs and consistently do that. The Rams need to get back to those 1st down gashes and 2nd yard conversions IMO

 by PARAM
4 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   13221  
 Joined:  Jul 15 2015
Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
Hall of Fame

Nice comeback Jared.

 by sloramfan
4 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   1581  
 Joined:  Jun 09 2015
United States of America   cen coast cal
Pro Bowl

and some try to make comparisons to sam bradford....

bradford NEVER had any bounce back games....

i think this team is fully capable of running the table all the way to the SB...

go rams

slo

 by bremillard
4 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   697  
 Joined:  Sep 30 2019
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Veteran

PARAM wrote:Nice comeback Jared.


He proved me the fool once again and from now on I will keep in mind that playing QB in the NFL is REALLY hard and nobody does it well every game. I saw today a guy who knows his craft and is certainly one of the best 5 in the league now. Great, great bounce back game...Goff and the entire Rams team.

 by aeneas1
4 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   16894  
 Joined:  Sep 13 2015
United States of America   Norcal
Hall of Fame

PARAM wrote:Nice comeback Jared.

much to the chagrin of the m&m boys no doubt... it was especially encouraging to see goff overcome all of his turnovers in today's game against the cards, hopefully he'll eventually reach a point where he doesn't cough it up a bunch of times in a game, a point where he can keep his turnovers to 0 or 1 in a game, some day maybe....

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