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Anyways, I get that we won't agree on the Dolphins, but I am willing to bet you they finish better than the Rams this and next year. You game?

The proverbial "bet me or you know I'm right"? Come on Max.

Sure this year we look cooked and they are rolling. That's their great drafting and our lack of it? Or is it we have lost 4 of our 5 starting lineman?

Next year? Who knows?

[ramsman34]

Look at them THIS YEAR.

How have they used the first round picks they got from SF?



Anyways, I get that we won't agree on the Dolphins, but I am willing to bet you they finish better than the Rams this and next year. You game?

That’s following the Rams model no? They are on the upswing of the model curve “this year”. While they might/probably will finish better than the Rams THIS YEAR, If they don’t win the SB this year or over the next 2-3 years, then their execution of the model won’t be as successful and they too will likely have aging vets on their roster at key spots. They have a QB on a rookie deal. THAT is where their take on this model is fiscally superior. We will see if he measures up to Stafford, team impact wise, over time.

Oh ya, there are 10 games left for the rams THIS season. We don’t know what will happen.

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That’s following the Rams model no? They are on the upswing of the model curve “this year”. While they might/probably will finish better than the Rams THIS YEAR, If they don’t win the SB this year or over the next 2-3 years, then their execution of the model won’t be as successful and they too will likely have aging vets on their roster at key spots. They have a QB on a rookie deal. THAT is where their take on this model is fiscally superior. We will see if he measures up to Stafford, team impact wise, over time.

Oh ya, there are 10 games left for the rams THIS season. We don’t know what will happen.

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Exactly! Thats my point. I said other teams are catching onto the Rams model. That what this means.

The Dolphins are doing what the Rams did and are younger. They are on the upswing. And just maybe the Rams are on the downswing because of their mistakes with their 2nd and 3rd rounder the past 4 or 5 years.

Let's take a look at the Rams 2nd and 3rd rounders the past 5 years...

2022
Bruss
2021
Atwell
EJones
2020
Akers
Van Jefferson
Terrell Lewis
Terrell Burgess
2019
Taylor Rapp
Darrell Henderson
David Long
Bobby Evans
2018
Noteboom

That's 12 picks in the 2nd and 3rd round over the past 5 years. How many of them are major contributors this year?

E. Jones looks very good. Jefferson was promising but can he stay healthy? Noteboom looks like a washout to me, can't stay healthy and erratic when he is on the field. Bruss is a question mark at this point. The rest are either JAGS or complete busts.

So we've got one sure major contributor and a couple of iffy guys out of our 12 2nd/3rd rounders.

Don't shoot the messenger, but this doesn't bode well for the future, especially when our probowl level players are no longer young guys.

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That’s following the Rams model no? They are on the upswing of the model curve “this year”. While they might/probably will finish better than the Rams THIS YEAR, If they don’t win the SB this year or over the next 2-3 years, then their execution of the model won’t be as successful and they too will likely have aging vets on their roster at key spots. They have a QB on a rookie deal. THAT is where their take on this model is fiscally superior. We will see if he measures up to Stafford, team impact wise, over time.

Oh ya, there are 10 games left for the rams THIS season. We don’t know what will happen.

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Here's a question....

Has this seasons Rams results (so far) shown the model has stopped working OR that an overwhelming rash of injuries to one position group has derailed their plan?

[max]

The proverbial "bet me or you know I'm right"? Come on Max.

Sure this year we look cooked and they are rolling. That's their great drafting and our lack of it? Or is it we have lost 4 of our 5 starting lineman?

Next year? Who knows?

My point is that I see the Dolphins as on the upswing and the Rams on the downswing because of the talent they have added, and the mistakes we have made in the draft.

So, yeah, we don't know for sure, but I think there's a pretty clear indication that they will be better than us next year and maybe beyond that.

I get that your approach is we don't know until it happens. And if it does happen that Miami is better, then you can say max wants the Rams to stink or some other nonsense.

How about acknowledging that maybe the Rams have made errors that contributed to the downslide?

[max]

Here's a question....

Has this seasons Rams results (so far) shown the model has stopped working OR that an overwhelming rash of injuries to one position group has derailed their plan?

Thats a great question that has no definitive answer because we don't know for sure how we would have done if the OL stayed healthy. It's a lot of conjecture that can be argued either way.

Of course, my view is that the problems with our team go beyond OL health, but that certainly is a major factor this year.

We will have a much more clarity on this next year, right?

And IMO, unless they make some dramatic improvements in talent, it won't be pretty to watch next year either.

[ramsman34]

Exactly! Thats my point. I said other teams are catching onto the Rams model. That what this means.

The Dolphins are doing what the Rams did and are younger. They are on the upswing. And just maybe the Rams are on the downswing because of their mistakes with their 2nd and 3rd rounder the past 4 or 5

Let's take a look at the Rams 2nd and 3rd rounders the past 5 years...

2022
Bruss
2021
Atwell
EJones
2020
Akers
Van Jefferson
Terrell Lewis
Terrell Burgess
2019
Taylor Rapp
Darrell Henderson
David Long
Bobby Evans
2018
Noteboom

That's 12 picks in the 2nd and 3rd round over the past 5 years. How many of them are major contributors this year?

E. Jones looks very good. Jefferson was promising but can he stay healthy? Noteboom looks like a washout to me, can't stay healthy and erratic when he is on the field. Bruss is a question mark at this point. The rest are either JAGS or complete busts.

So we've got one sure major contributor and a couple of iffy guys out of our 12 2nd/3rd rounders.

Don't shoot the messenger, but this doesn't bode well for the future, especially when our probowl level players are no longer young guys.

Quantitatively, 9 of those picks are major contributors this year. Some due to injuries to others (Evans) And some eliminated by injury who would have continued to be major contributors (Boom). Now, if the question was qualitative, then perhaps that is more telling. As you suggest by the JAGs comment. But they are/were all 9 playing significant minutes/reps.

[ramsman34]

If the bottom line is they have to draft better going forward, I agree. But I want to see how this season and off season play out before deciding they are going dumpster fire status immediately.

I think we all agree that after the SB wins we were in a 2 maybe 3 year “window”. Remains to be seen if that’s the case.

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And IMO, unless they make some dramatic improvements in talent, it won't be pretty to watch next year either.

Some fans have been saying that for a few years now. After we lost to the Patriots in SB53. After we suffered the OL injuries in 2019. After Goff broke his thumb, had a falling out with McV and Donald tore rib cartlidge in 2020. And after we went 0 for November last year. Doom and gloom was the order of the day right up to "we can't get by SF" (in the 21 CCG). Yet we have a 39-23 record over that time and the '21 Lombardi. I'll take a pass on writing them off just yet, for this year or next. Or the year after for that matter.

[ramsman34]

I’m with PA on this. EDIT: I agree with PA’s position. It’s supposed to be about agree/disagree with content, not poster
But I do acknowledge the Rams have to crush this off-season and especially, drastically improve the OL.