[PARAM]

I wonder what the ratio is ... of the number of NFL wide season ticket holders vs the number of NFL wide Sunday Ticket subscribers.

I can tell you if I lived in the St. Louis area (when the Rams were there) or the L.A. area, I would be a season ticket holder and regular attendee. But that's just me. Maybe it's because I have never lived in the city of my favorite team.

I do attend N.Y. Yankee games every season (a coupla times usually) but that's an 81 game home schedule. I purchased Trenton Thunder tickets last April (4 seats for 7 games) but baseball just isn't the same.

I have attended Eagle games in the past but that's not the same.

When I came out to St. Louis in 2005, 2006 and 2007, the tailgate experience with fellow Ram fans was awesome. I truly believe I would do it with regularity if I lived where the Rams played, regardless of record. I suppose that's easy to say but I've purchased NFL ticket every year since 1999 and have watched every game in it's entirety (except for one against the Cowboys on local TV that was cut off due to it being a rout; got a nice discount from DTV after that one).

You can be mad the team has a horrible record. You can be vocal. It's your personality that determines whether you choose to go and voice that opinion or stay home. That's the one thing I've always admired about Eagle fans.....they go regardless of record, come hell or high water. They will boo and jeer but they go. And I believe Jeffrey Lurie truly has a passion to bring them a Championship because of it. Whether they get it or not is a different story.

[St. Loser Fan]

Bonsignore reports about 48,000 there. Say what you will about TOTAL attendance......it should be better in Southern California.....but don't compare it to the last few seasons in St. Louis. The Dome held about 66,000 and half of the fans in the stands wore visiting jerseys. Let's see how many Ram fans show up for the Redskins game.

Funny how half the fans being visitors was a horrible thing in St. Louis but will be an added feature in Las Vegas.

[ramsrams]

In all my years in reading this, best post ever.

Well done, Pa.

[rather]

What kind of Rams/LA specific conclusions are we supposed to draw from a Twitter account that posts pictures of empty seats from all over the country?

All I see is someone trying to make a case that sporting event attendance in general is poor and that using public money for stadiums is a scam.

But not much you can conclude specifically about the LA market.

I'm also going to make the leap that the Empty Seats Twitter guy is a fan of a particular team and never posts pictures of his own team's empty stadium. This is exactly the kind of thing a Patriots fan would do.

[St. Loser Fan]

Part of this is derision at the NFL for taking teams from two markets (San Diego and Oakland) that didn't deserve to lose them. LA Rams fans are just collateral damage.

Deadspin.com: Yes, Here Is A Market That Needs Two NFL Teams
http://deadspin.com/yes-here-is-a-marke ... 1803098565

[Haden]

Bob was right. Don't know why the abuse came his way. The stadium looked half full, AT BEST. Even Plaschke of the Times commented on it, it was so obvious. However, the Rams stunk last year. Who would pay for a ticket and $50 parking (other than die hard fans) to see a shit show? Now that they are showing that they will be entertaining and competitive, fans will come.

[Hacksaw]

Fans schmans. StL fans are good fans. LA fans are good fans. Both are better when the product is good.

LA fans got slammed by the likes of Bernie (in his famous letter to LA) from day 1. "We deserved to lose our team" was the general diatribe.
So when relo talk started getting real, and the owner was preemptively accused of using the "attendance card", it sort of stands to reason that some LA fans did also. In fact it became the theme again, just like when GF took the Rams from LA.

I didn't like the taste of that then and it's no better now.

Let's put this discussion to bed as it is only becoming hurt feelings that are going drive this conversation. No proving anything constructive is likely.

Let's be pleased with our week one results and leave the sagging attendance up to the NFL and team exec's to figure out.

[Gareth]

Bob was right. Don't know why the abuse came his way. The stadium looked half full, AT BEST. Even Plaschke of the Times commented on it, it was so obvious. However, the Rams stunk last year. Who would pay for a ticket and $50 parking (other than die hard fans) to see a shit show? Now that they are showing that they will be entertaining and competitive, fans will come.

The bolded says it all.

[SoCalRam78]

Rams can play in front of 0 fans, and Kroenke and the NFL will still make out like bandits on the deal.

Not talking about what's fair, but stating why they moved.

[St. Loser Fan]

Let's be pleased with our game week one results and leave the sagging attendance up to the NFL and team exec's to figure out.

Until this weekend when there's a few thousand empty seats at StubHub for the San Diego of Los Angeles Chargers game.