[moklerman]

sams timing is awful. his arm is awesome. he needs to find the connection

Bradford is struggling. But do you think his timing might be affected by the fact that he hasn't played in two years? Or that his receiving corps hasn't played together? Or that the Eagles have two new guards that are REALLY struggling? This isn't a case of Bradford stepping into a functioning unit and just him struggling. Maclin is gone so Matthews has had to go from the #2 to the #1. Agihlor is a rookie and not really ready. Murray doesn't look ready to play yet(due in large part to skipping preseason and being in a new system IMO) and Austin's dropped at least 3 passes already.

I agree that Kelly's hubris may have got the best of him as this whole offense is having trouble coming together. Bradford is a part of a larger whole that is struggling and I don't disagree with that. Acting as if Bradford's always sucked and this proves it is bologna IMO.

Speaking of stats, I saw one that said last year Murray, on average, went 2.8 yards before contact. This year, he's going -0.1 yards. He's actually averaging getting hit before he gets the ball!

Here's more numbers:
47/86(54.7%) 493(5.7ypa) 3TD/5INT 58.9 rating
59/89(66.3%) 560(6.3ypa) 2TD/4INT 72.3 rating

58.9 rating? Surely that proves that this QB is being exposed and will never make it, right? I mean, he's not even in a new system with a whole new cast. If anything, his RB was upgraded as was his #2 receiver. Obviously this guy can't push the ball down the field. 5.7 ypa? Captain Checkdown is hurting his team with his tentative play I think. After two games it would be much better to go with Mark Sanchez over this guy, right?

[Hacksaw]

molker, I'm sure he's a bit rusty... I don't want to seem like a basher and Mr Kelleys system doesn't help matters much either but Sam Bradford has never lived up to the hype. (save possibly his ORY season)

"Acting as if Bradford's always sucked and this proves it is bologna IMO" I didn't actually say he always sucked, but I have left far to may a game wher I felt that this was the wrong way to go. To be honest, I have to add that I felt that way when he was drafted, (Suh camp) but i always wanted him to succeed more than you know. He just didn't seem to have IT. Foles has more IT to me,,, at least after 2 games.

I hope both guys do better.....

[moklerman]

Sorry Hacksaw, I wasn't really talking about what you'd said I was ranting related to the other point in the thread.

And, since I hadn't gone back and re-watched the Cowboys/Eagles, I wanted to do that with the emotion of live action removed.

I saw a lot of miscommunication in the passing game. Matthews drifted on a deep out when Bradford thought he was going to come back. The play where Bradford starts to throw it over the middle, pulls it back and short hops it to no one. Bradford got tripped by Cooper going in motion. Bradford threw to the end zone when Agholor cut in around the 5.

I saw 6 drops by various receivers. I saw a few different poor throws.

But I also saw Bradford throw it in the air 15+ yards 9 times and 20+ yards 4 times. That's out of the 39 attempts I saw up until the 2:00 warning when my recording cut off. There were a couple of throws in goal to go situations that I didn't count since those couldn't go more than 10 yards. So, it seems to me that Bradford was throwing it intermediate and long. He didn't throw it deep(30+) at all but I don't have the all-22 to see if there was anything there to be had.

To me, it doesn't seem that Bradford is throwing it intermediate to long significantly less than the rest of the league to the point that defenses don't respect the possibility of it or to the point that it's neutering the running game. It was the horrific blocking that killed the running game. Every time the Eagles tried to establish the running game, Murray was getting tackled for a loss. Big losses too.

It's just ridiculous to lay all of this at Bradford's feet and I think it's borderline trolling to even try. If one wants to say that he doesn't look comfortable yet? I agree. If one wants to say that he and his receivers haven't clicked? I'd also agree. These guys are all thinking instead of playing and it's most evident on the o-line. Which is causing the rest of the offense to struggle and not get into rhythm. Is that really so unexpected with a new QB who's coming off of injury, two new guards, a rookie WR, 2 new RB's and an abbreviated off season together for all of them?

Why someone has to LEAP to the conclusion that the first two games are definitive about anything seems VERY agenda driven to me and pot-stirring no doubt. If someone had started a thread on this board about Andrew Luck, I wouldn't be so inclined to assume the worst. But this is a Rams board and this is about Bradford so there's no doubt that it was not a well-intentioned thread IMO.

[den-the-coach]

58.9 rating? Surely that proves that this QB is being exposed and will never make it, right? I mean, he's not even in a new system with a whole new cast. If anything, his RB was upgraded as was his #2 receiver. Obviously this guy can't push the ball down the field. 5.7 ypa? Captain Checkdown is hurting his team with his tentative play I think. After two games it would be much better to go with Mark Sanchez over this guy, right?

I still believe the Eagles will turn it around and so will Bradford, however, most of the blame thus far goes on the offensive line and their decision to get rid of both veteran guards. However, IMO, Bradford has played two good quarters out of 8 and his team is 0-2 and those are facts. Overall I was stunned that Kelly stated that everything has to be evaluated including the quarterback position where he could've just stated all positions.

Anyway it's not going to get any easier for Bradford as they take on the New York Jets who have one of best defenses in the NFL to date so we'll see how this plays out.

[dieterbrock]

I dont buy that Sam is rusty. Its the same old Sam. Tears it up in pre-season against vanilla defenses and then when the games count, he's gun shy.
Its the same Sam we saw many times, terrible first half, padded stats in the 2nd half

IMO Sam held back the progress of the team and his injuries disguised his short comings.
Philly cant go 0-3 so I wouldnt be surprised that if Sam starts slow against the Skins, that he doesnt get benched for Sanchez. I wouldnt be surprised if Sanchez even started the game

[max]

If given the choice of:
1. Bradford turns it around and leads the Eagles to the playoffs
2. Bradford gets benched
3. Bradford gets injured

#1 would be the last choice I'd make.

[bubbaramfan]

I'll lay odds Rams will be giving Philly their 4th rounder in next years draft.

[Hacksaw]

Capt Checkdown throwing over 15 yards on 33% of his attempts is going to lose him that nickname.

[RedAlice]

My brother is a Philly fan and said that was arguably the worst game he's ever seen by a Philly QB. "Deer in the Headlights" is his new nickname. Bottom line, he's not a good QB. I don't think Foles is some savior either, but definitely better.

One of the highlights Sunday was watching the Eagles game next to some Eagles fans. The Bradford comments were priceless.

Me: Yes, he always looks like that. You're welcome.

Philly press is not gonna be as nice as STL was.

[aeneas1]

Why someone has to LEAP to the conclusion that the first two games are definitive about anything seems VERY agenda driven to me and pot-stirring no doubt.

good grief, is this for real? it's ok for sam backers to LEAP to the conclusion that he'll flourish in chip's system, it's ok for sam backers to LEAP to the conclusion that his 2015 preseason play was proof positive that the eagles would roll with him under center, but when someone points out that sam's poor play has continued in philly, when the real games start, when he has to face pressure, when the bullets start to fly, there's some sort of "agenda" going on? really? moreover trying to slap lipstick on sam's horrendous cowboys outing. in front of the home crowd, well that's certainly more than telling, if ya want to point to "agenda". hey, you like sam, i get it, you think bad luck follows him around every year, regardless of where the road takes him, that he's an elite talent who hasn't been given a real chance because of, well you name it, but whether you like it or not he's shown little at the pro level, after 51 nfl starts, that suggests he's anything more than below average. thankfully the rams moved on, even if nick doesn't pan out.