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 by moklerman
9 years 9 months ago
 Total posts:   7680  
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
Hall of Fame

Martz as OC would be great just to have him back but I would be hesitant to have him under someone's thumb. Martz does not operate well that way if his post-Rams career is any indicator. ESPECIALLY putting him below a defensive minded HC(like Fisher). No, get rid of Fisher, hire Martz as HC and let him HC a team with a competent FO and be allowed to do things his way.

 by Stranger
9 years 9 months ago
 Total posts:   3213  
 Joined:  Aug 12 2015
United States of America   Norcal
Superstar

moklerman wrote:Mike Martz is available and lives in SD. Even if he doesn't turn the team into a Super Bowl winner, he'd at least make it entertaining to watch.

I would be bursting in excitement at the prospect of the Rams bringing back Mike Martz when the resume play in Los Angeles. Wow, showtime in Inglewood again - I think I'd fly in for all the games.

 by Hacksaw
9 years 9 months ago
 Total posts:   24523  
 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
Moderator

If Martz could still be effective.

Warner's skills and his surrounding cast made that deal work too. Who is our current Torry Holt or Issac Bruce? I guess Austin is Hakim and if Gurley can even be close to as productive as Marshall, it could work. Maybe.
Gurley / Mason / Cunningham receiving out of the backfield,, it could work too. Leadership and game-day acumen, well I doubt any of them could carry Marshall's strap,,,,, yet.

The thing I remember and miss the most was the tempo and speed at which the Rams played. Our opponents were always on their heels.

Our current defense is better though. Remember all those 42 to 38 scores? After working with Lovie,, well who knows?

MM's aggressiveness and innovative approach was successful. His creative style was tons of fun to watch and put a lot of pressure on a defense.
If you have a good 5 man line, the QB might stay alive too,, because everyone else is out in a pattern or blocking downfield.

His game day adjustments (or absence of) made me scratch my head often enough too,
Honestly, I really never thought he was that great of a HC, but he was definitely one of the greatest offensive coordinators I've ever seen. Don't fix it if it ain't broke already.

Too bad we can't relive the past or get a do over ! ........................... or can we?

 by TSFH Fan
9 years 9 months ago
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 Joined:  Jun 24 2015
United States of America   The OC
Veteran

Rather than recycling one of my past posts of why Martz is a real bad idea, I found the following -- some of you will remember these:

Mike Martz is an NFL offensive play calling genius. Here's a few of his unique plays
http://athlonsports.com/overtime/mike-m ... e-playbook

Anyone who saw the Chicago Bears self-destruct against the Detroit Lions on Monday night probably thought Chicago’s offense was in complete disarray. Well, you thought wrong. We’ve obtained an exclusive look at Mike Martz’s playbook for Monday night’s debacle and from the looks of it, the Bears' offense executed to near perfection.

Play #1: The Make Sure Everyone Misses Their Blocking Assignment Play
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Play #2: The One of Us Should False Start Play (Version 1)
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Play #3: Maybe We Can Get 15 Yards With A Roughing The Passer Penalty
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Play #4: The One of Us Should False Start Play (Version 2)
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Play #5: Make Sure We Burn All Our Timeouts In the First Quarter Play
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Play #6: The Make Sure The Receivers Don't Get Open Play
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Play #7: The Let's Call Another Seven Step Drop Because We're Stupid Play
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Play #8: The Left-Handed Throw Will Really Confuse The Defense Play
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Mike Martz has a history of drawing up unique NFL offensive plays that can result in confusing defenses and putting a great deal of points on the scoreboard. But as you can see, on the flipside, they can also leave their quarterback hanging out to dry if the offensive line and receivers aren't clicking on all cylinders. This is what Bears football is right now.
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Guest • 4 years ago
Clearly fake. Mike Martz would never let a TE run a route. Otherwise, very convincing.

 by moklerman
9 years 9 months ago
 Total posts:   7680  
 Joined:  Apr 17 2015
United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
Hall of Fame

Yeah, if Martz came in think of how undisciplined and penalized the Rams would be. Nothing like they are now.

The GSOT will likely never return but I'd sure as hell settle for Kitna to Furrey.

 by Elvis
9 years 9 months ago
 Total posts:   41498  
 Joined:  Mar 28 2015
United States of America   Los Angeles
Administrator

I'm fully aware that a return of Mike Martz could be a disaster. Then again the Rams have been a disaster ever since he was fired.

But if he came back (which i think there's pretty much zero chance of happening) there's a very good chance we would be better than we've been in a long time.

So it's a risk i personally would be fine with. Though again, i can't imagine those in charge feel the same way i do...

 by Rams the Legends live on
9 years 9 months ago
 Total posts:   1990  
 Joined:  Aug 26 2015
United States of America   Colorado Springs
Pro Bowl

In Martz's defense I think a lot of his problems before could have been the dance hall gal and her right hand monkey. Over the years how many times did we see them chose a buck over talent, Kevin Greene, Bettis, London Fletcher, Kevin Carter, Zgonina and so many more names we could mention. In fact didn't a few players end up on the Titans and were there during the winning years of Fish as a coach 2000, 2002, and 2003 when Titans lost some players and replaced them with former Rams who had been to one or 2 superbowls.

I think a lot of Martz problems was the front office and the top of the pyramid itself. He knew he was a head coach for a owner who's ideology was do it all on the cheap. So a lot of the problems could have been who he thought might have been ideal on the line or in this position to ideally be a perfect fit he could not go after because the dance gal and her monkey who expedited the move from LA because of their cheapness. Not to mention they did get rid of some defensive players following both our superbowls. I think they could have tied his hands as far as who he saw as a fit for the various pieces of his system through their cheapness. I would not find that to be a problem Martz would have under a Stan ownership as he (Stan) has shown he will open the purse strings.

 by Stranger
9 years 9 months ago
 Total posts:   3213  
 Joined:  Aug 12 2015
United States of America   Norcal
Superstar

I couldn't agree more... no way I would want to have been the HC during that FO and ownership. Can you imagine what Mike would have done if he would have had ESK, Demoff & Snead?

 by Hacksaw
9 years 9 months ago
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 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
Moderator

Perhaps we will. I mean it's at least possible. Just not likely.

 by den-the-coach
9 years 9 months ago
 Total posts:   870  
 Joined:  May 22 2015
United States of America   Fifty-four Forty or Fight
Veteran

Nobody liked Mike Martz more than I did, in fact, I thought he was going to be to the Rams what Joe Gibbs was to the Redskins, it's sad it did not end that way, but he's done as a play caller IMO and it's time to close that chapter in the Ram saga.

If Fisher's not the guy then we'll see if Kroenke empowers Les Snead or moves on....When hiring Fisher he was using the New England Patriots as a paradigm by hiring a strong Head Coach who would then sign off on a GM he could work with and thus is how the Fisher/Snead regime was formed not sure if Kroenke would stray away from that formula, but IMO, if it's not Fisher then not sure where the Rams would go from there.

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