[OldSchool]

Just a thought for the sky is falling people. Linehan was 10-2 in preseason for his 3 years. Oh and in those 3 years he also had 11 regular season wins. 10-2 preseason 11-25 fired 4 games into his 3rd season.

There's a difference between the sky is falling and there doesn't seem to be anything new on offense. All we have to go by is what we've seen on the field and what we've seen is not much.

Should we just not talk about the game? Or just blow sunshine and rainbows up each other's butts? No one said anything about "winning" the game(which is a ridiculous concept in preseason since it's impossible to win an exhibition game).

Talk about it all we want. Preseason is here for one reason and that's to give the coaches things to work on in practices and the next game. The coaches have things they want to see from the players, things they don't share with us, and they put the players in position to try them out. I know it's a tired phrase that people get bored hearing but vanilla. Vanilla offense vanilla defense. We run basic schemes to see how people will execute their assigned duties. We don't run our week 1 game day offense in the preseason. Did you see our vaunted DLine run a single stunt? Did we pull the guard and plow the DLine over with some nice blocking schemes? We saw screen passes, basic passing routes and runs right up the middle. Preseason games imo shouldn't even be televised because they're glorified joint practices and every year people get worked up about them. Just remember these same Raiders that were horrible last year and we smoked 52-0 put up 41 points in preseason on Seattle last year. The Redskins the other team we shutout went 3-1 last year. Tampa went 2-2, as many wins as they got in the 16 game regular season.

We all get not wanting to look bad. What we should want is the mistakes we see in week 1 either corrected in week 2 or not made as much. That and everybody getting out of the game healthy.

[dieterbrock]

Fisher tenure has given us poor offensive performance in pre-season, and followed it up with poor regular season offensive performance. I know pre-season is meaningless but I wouldnt mind being on the other side of the fence for once. You know, scoring 30+ points and having to remind ourselves that it doesnt mean anything.

[OldSchool]

Fisher tenure has given us poor offensive performance in pre-season, and followed it up with poor regular season offensive performance. I know pre-season is meaningless but I wouldnt mind being on the other side of the fence for once. You know, scoring 30+ points and having to remind ourselves that it doesnt mean anything.

Just for reference there were 2 teams in the NFL last year that averaged 30+ points a game. One was Denver who we destroyed. Another 2 scored 29+. Not saying it wouldn't be nice to score 30 ppg but with our coach we're not going to see that kind of offense with Fisher as our head coach. Hell the Rams as a franchise I think only have 3 or 4 years in their history where they averaged 30+ ppg. For better or worse this is what we are. We're a team that's built to try to win games by scoring 20 ppg and holding teams to the teens. Fishers tenure has also been victimized by having backup QB's. I'm going to watch next week and hope to see us cutting down on the mistakes we made this week and hope we see improvement. I'm not going to get too worried unless we go into week 1 and 2 and still see the same mistakes and lack of production. Until then preseason games for me are an excuse to sit down with a 6 pack a pizza and watch a glorified practice.

[snackdaddy]

Fisher tenure has given us poor offensive performance in pre-season, and followed it up with poor regular season offensive performance. I know pre-season is meaningless but I wouldnt mind being on the other side of the fence for once. You know, scoring 30+ points and having to remind ourselves that it doesnt mean anything.

I do remember people being concerned about the lackluster play the last couple preseasons and others saying "Its just the preseason". Then we come out flat to start the season. Seems like we go from "its just game 1 preseason" to "its just game 1 regular season" to "who are we gonna draft next year?" So yeah, I know where you're coming from. But last night's game had a general feeling of the Raiders needing to give their fan base something to get excited about with a new coach and new skill position players. They came out with more a sense of urgency. Their fans are very excited with Cooper. But they're not realistically a playoff contender yet. They might be headed in the right direction, but they're not there yet.

The Rams are further ahead than the Raiders. Last night's game had more a feeling that they want to make sure none of their core guys get hurt and they want to see some bottom of the roster guys more. Winning wasn't as high a priority as it was for the Raiders. And it showed. So for one game I'm going withhold any judgement and wait to see how they look the next two games. If they still look flat, then yes its a concern. And "its just preseason" won't cut it.

[dieterbrock]

Fisher tenure has given us poor offensive performance in pre-season, and followed it up with poor regular season offensive performance. I know pre-season is meaningless but I wouldnt mind being on the other side of the fence for once. You know, scoring 30+ points and having to remind ourselves that it doesnt mean anything.

Just for reference there were 2 teams in the NFL last year that averaged 30+ points a game. One was Denver who we destroyed. Another 2 scored 29+. Not saying it wouldn't be nice to score 30 ppg but with our coach we're not going to see that kind of offense with Fisher as our head coach. Hell the Rams as a franchise I think only have 3 or 4 years in their history where they averaged 30+ ppg. For better or worse this is what we are. We're a team that's built to try to win games by scoring 20 ppg and holding teams to the teens. Fishers tenure has also been victimized by having backup QB's. I'm going to watch next week and hope to see us cutting down on the mistakes we made this week and hope we see improvement. I'm not going to get too worried unless we go into week 1 and 2 and still see the same mistakes and lack of production. Until then preseason games for me are an excuse to sit down with a 6 pack a pizza and watch a glorified practice.

I'm not complaining. 15 of 26 teams scored 20 or more points. I'm just saying that for once I'd like to be the guy saying, "who cares that we scored 27 points against ____, its just pre-season" vs the endless games like yesterday.

[dieterbrock]

I'll say this much, Mannion looked the part last night and Im curious to see how this plays out. If he shows something in these other games it might be a 2 QB team and sign a scrub to the PS

[Stranger]

Fisher tenure has given us poor offensive performance in pre-season, and followed it up with poor regular season offensive performance. I know pre-season is meaningless but I wouldnt mind being on the other side of the fence for once. You know, scoring 30+ points and having to remind ourselves that it doesnt mean anything.

YES!

Personally, I'm tired of listening to all of the "it's preseason" excuses. I'm quickly losing confidence in this coaching staff. Actually, it started well before last year.

Stan will probably allow Fisher to hang around to complete the move, but I think if the Rams continue with the same level of regular season performance while in LA, Stan will exhibit an entirely different level of patience. How great would it be to see an LA based team with an exciting offense that brought the fans out. Unfortuntely, that could be at least two seasons away. But Mannion could be the spark.

[Elvis]

The training camp word on Foles seemed pretty right on: If he has his first read he's great but it deteriorates pretty quick from there.

Obviously it's more fun to watch your team look good than not but preseason just doesn't tell you anything. And that doesn't mean everything is going to be fine it means, i really can't say.

I can't tell you how many years i've watched the Raiders look really solid in the preseason (controlling the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball when the ones are going against ones) only to be terrible when the season rolls around.

Maybe others can tell what's going to be from preseason games, but i can't...

[snackdaddy]

True, the preseason doesn't answer many questions. Typically teams with new coaches have more questions. There's a reason why they changed coaches. So they're more likely to come out strong so they can energize the fans. Oakland came out with some fire. The Rams looked like winning was not their top priority. So I'll give them a pass for this one.

But they came out flat early last year when the games counted. You can't discount that. I thought the pass protection was shoddy with some starters. And it was against a defense that I wouldn't consider better than average. So while I'm willing to wait and see, I don't have much optimism that our offense will be improved. Guess we have another month to see what we really have.

[OldSchool]

Typically teams with new coaches also go out with something to prove and actually try to win games at the cost of coaching guys up. So far this week every 1st year coach won except for Fowles at the Jets. You also can't discount we came out last year with backup QB's and our same shitty OC who has no imagination. Already that 1st drive with the 1st team under Cignetti showed more creativity in a preseason game than we usually saw from Shotty.