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I refuse to believe that the Rams believe that Keenum is a sustainable QB that they can win more than 8 games with for more than a season.

We've seen guys like him for many years. He's at best a stop gap QB that won't totally lose you multiple games by himself.

I'll be very surprised if the Rams don't take a shot at a QB high in this draft; moving up in the first round or into the first round is in the mix IMO.

Thing is, the Rams can very well win 9 games this year with Keenum. But then what? They will be limited by his limitation going forward. Is that enough for the Rams? I refuse to believe these guys sit down in their meetings and agree that they don't need a sustainable QB going forward.

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We've seen guys like him for many years. He's at best a stop gap QB that won't totally lose you multiple games by himself.

I'll be very surprised if the Rams don't take a shot at a QB high in this draft;

Our grades on him are not that different but we do disagree in spots. Personally I think he's much better than the #2 types we've seen the last few years...better than Davis, Hill, Clemens, Feeley, Boller, The Return of Green, even Jamie Martin. He has more field moxie and better intangibles than them. He has streaky accuracy, sometimes badly so, but is overall--at the end of the day--more accurate than any of those except maybe Martin.

I too think he is a fill-in qb who will not lose multiple games, but I also think that with a play action offense and a top defense, that's pretty good. Unless he melts down, I think Keenum starting means more wins than 2015.

BUT the Rams clearly do not intend for him to be "the guy" and yes they will take a qb high in the draft. I just wouldn't count on any rookie they take to be ready in 2016, at least not early in 2016.

Wagoner sums it up well IMO:

WAGONER (3/12):

They haven’t said Keenum is their quarterback for the long term or even the season. They just said he’s the starter going into the offseason. The reality of the situation all along has been that Keenum is the guy on the roster right now about whom they feel the best so they were always going to keep him around unless a clear-cut better option revealed itself somewhere along the way. In free agency, it doesn’t seem that one of those has come along, at least not at the right price. That is, of course, subject to change, but for now there doesn’t appear to be serious interest in the choices still on the market. . ... As always, these things are fluid, and perhaps an opportunity the Rams like — i.e. a cheaper, short, “prove it” deal for a veteran — will present itself. But as it stands, it seems the Rams are more likely to explore quarterback options in the draft, which probably only improves Keenum’s chances of being the starter in 2016 unless they move up for one of the top guys.

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We've seen guys like him for many years. He's at best a stop gap QB that won't totally lose you multiple games by himself.

I'll be very surprised if the Rams don't take a shot at a QB high in this draft;

Our grades on him are not that different but we do disagree in spots. Personally I think he's much better than the #2 types we've seen the last few years...better than Davis, Hill, Clemens, Feeley, Boller, The Return of Green, even Jamie Martin. He has more field moxie and better intangibles than them. He has streaky accuracy, sometimes badly so, but is overall--at the end of the day--more accurate than any of those except maybe Martin.

I too think he is a fill-in qb who will not lose multiple games, but I also think that with a play action offense and a top defense, that's pretty good. Unless he melts down, I think Keenum starting means more wins than 2015.

BUT the Rams clearly do not intend for him to be "the guy" and yes they will take a qb high in the draft. I just wouldn't count on any rookie they take to be ready in 2016, at least not early in 2016.

Wagoner sums it up well IMO:

WAGONER (3/12):

They haven’t said Keenum is their quarterback for the long term or even the season. They just said he’s the starter going into the offseason. The reality of the situation all along has been that Keenum is the guy on the roster right now about whom they feel the best so they were always going to keep him around unless a clear-cut better option revealed itself somewhere along the way. In free agency, it doesn’t seem that one of those has come along, at least not at the right price. That is, of course, subject to change, but for now there doesn’t appear to be serious interest in the choices still on the market. . ... As always, these things are fluid, and perhaps an opportunity the Rams like — i.e. a cheaper, short, “prove it” deal for a veteran — will present itself. But as it stands, it seems the Rams are more likely to explore quarterback options in the draft, which probably only improves Keenum’s chances of being the starter in 2016 unless they move up for one of the top guys.

I don't disagree with any of that. As a matter of fact, it's all very obvious to me.

I think I can best sum up Keenum in 3 words: He doesn't suck.

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We've seen guys like him for many years. He's at best a stop gap QB that won't totally lose you multiple games by himself.

I'll be very surprised if the Rams don't take a shot at a QB high in this draft;

Our grades on him are not that different but we do disagree in spots. Personally I think he's much better than the #2 types we've seen the last few years...better than Davis, Hill, Clemens, Feeley, Boller, The Return of Green, even Jamie Martin. He has more field moxie and better intangibles than them. He has streaky accuracy, sometimes badly so, but is overall--at the end of the day--more accurate than any of those except maybe Martin.

I too think he is a fill-in qb who will not lose multiple games, but I also think that with a play action offense and a top defense, that's pretty good. Unless he melts down, I think Keenum starting means more wins than 2015.

BUT the Rams clearly do not intend for him to be "the guy" and yes they will take a qb high in the draft. I just wouldn't count on any rookie they take to be ready in 2016, at least not early in 2016.

Wagoner sums it up well IMO:

WAGONER (3/12):

They haven’t said Keenum is their quarterback for the long term or even the season. They just said he’s the starter going into the offseason. The reality of the situation all along has been that Keenum is the guy on the roster right now about whom they feel the best so they were always going to keep him around unless a clear-cut better option revealed itself somewhere along the way. In free agency, it doesn’t seem that one of those has come along, at least not at the right price. That is, of course, subject to change, but for now there doesn’t appear to be serious interest in the choices still on the market. . ... As always, these things are fluid, and perhaps an opportunity the Rams like — i.e. a cheaper, short, “prove it” deal for a veteran — will present itself. But as it stands, it seems the Rams are more likely to explore quarterback options in the draft, which probably only improves Keenum’s chances of being the starter in 2016 unless they move up for one of the top guys.

I don't disagree with any of that. As a matter of fact, it's all very obvious to me.

I think I can best sum up Keenum in 3 words: He doesn't suck.

Okay...but, I have more confidence in him than you I think (unless he melts down for multiple games but then that's not always predictable). I think he's a self-maximizer, a dedicated film junkie (apparently beyond the qb norm), and has enough field smarts to now and then make something out of nothing. I think he can be a dollar store version of a clutch qb, and also knows how to play mistake free. I just like all that a hair or 2 more than you, which is okay of course. I'm not in a "who's right" death match on it, just having fun hashing it out.

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[ramsman34]

I think Keenum will be fine IF he is protected by a great running game, defense, ST's, and smart passing game design that maxes out his skill set while staying as unpredictable to opposition defenses as possible, I.E. staying out of obvious passing situations as much as possible and passing when the defense has predicted, and aligned to stop the run. He does have good intangibles coupled with an average physical skill set. That's ok, for now. Won't win us a SB most likely but, who really thinks we are getting to the super bowl this upcoming season?

I too think they will draft another QB; I just don't have a feel for who or when. This is an odd QB class from a personality and physical traits standpoint - experience in a pro-style offense notwithstanding. Lastly, I think a trade for Glennon is not out of the realm of possibility. He might be an overall upgrade to Keenum and certainly is in the physical skills dept.

[Neil039]

I have more faith in Keenum and less faith in the coaching staff to put forth a game plan that maximizes more than Run, Run, Pass, and Punt. Great coaching staffs coach players into positions of success. Rarely do teams have the Rodgers, Brady, and Mannings who get more with less. The Rams don't have these type of coaches on the offensive side of the ball. Fisher can spray cologne all day long but it still smells horrible.

Example being: TA was supposed to have a great year with the support of the coaching staff in 2015. A few decent games but not the explosion promised of a top ten pick.

[dieterbrock]

I followed Keenum in college. Thought he should have gotten drafted. Followed him in Houston where I thought he was going to be a warner-esque type story. When we got him the first time I thought it would be good. I like what he showed in pre-season and thought he should have gotten a start earlier. Point being, I've been a fan of his for quite some time.
However, when he played I use my brain and not my heart and clearly saw how limited he is.
Can blame the Fisher offense all we want but against Baltimore (who had a dreadful Pass D) he was really bad. They exposed his pop gun arm and he couldn't do anything outside 15 yards.
He's fun to watch, can give a spark but so did Clemens, Hill and Davis. After 3-4 games they get exposed
Despite being a fan I can't see how the team is any better than last year with him at the healm.

[snackdaddy]

We may not need a great quarterback like Manning used to be. But we need a pretty good one to compete year after year. You can build a superbowl caliber team around a marginal quarterback but with free agency how long would it last? A good quarterback gives you a chance to compete with a less talented team.

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He's fun to watch, can give a spark but so did Clemens, Hill and Davis. After 3-4 games they get exposed
Despite being a fan I can't see how the team is any better than last year with him at the helm.

I think he's better than Clemens, Hill, and Davis and shows things they never did. I think if he started all year last year they have at least a couple of more wins.

Either way they're obviously going to draft someone and it also remains to be seen how good Mannion can be. That just makes CK a bridge qb.

[bubbaramfan]

It may be that the Rams are not looking to draft a QB in this years draft. they may be looking to next years draft. They have to see what they have in Mannion and see if Foles is salvageable. I'm afraid we're stuck with Keenum, Foles and Mannion for another season before the Rams make a move on QB. They might even be thinking FA next year. In this years case, none of the QB's coming out of college are starter ready, and none of the FA QB's are all that appealing.

Remember that the Rams were only 3 missed field goals from 10-6 and the playoffs. A more experienced OL will only make the QB better.