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 by Hacksaw
9 years 5 months ago
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 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
Moderator

The Gemini Method wrote:
Hacksaw wrote:Good points Gemini. The real dope here is that he showed either slow reaction time or fear by not getting after that ball. Simms calling the game nailed it in real time. The game was on the line and had he recovered they still had a good chance to win the game. Losing the ball without even trying to recover basically sealed their fate. That was a huge turnover and an equally huge 'no play' on the ball. Perhaps his left shoulder injury was a factor, but until he uses that excuse, that fumble flub will follow him.
Frankly he needed a healthy slice of humble pie.
It sends a message to the other 52 players that he isn't willing to go all out for them. Thomas Davis has to be wondering why he even laced them up with a broken forearm if Cam, his leader, wouldn't even dive to make an attempt for that fumble. Granted, they were not going to recover that fumble but it sends a message of a lack of leadership to the non-glamour positions that their so-called leader isn't willing to put that effort forwards they begin to think: Why should we?

I hear you. However, I'm not so sure he couldn't have gotten that ball if he dove for it immediately. Newton is a 250 lber and the Denver lineman who first go a hand on it was barely controlling it. It would have been close for sure,, but possible. We'll never know since he jumped away from the danger.

 by The Gemini Method
9 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   21  
 Joined:  Feb 09 2016
United States of America   Garden Grove, CA
Undrafted Free Agent

Hacksaw wrote:
The Gemini Method wrote:
Hacksaw wrote:Good points Gemini. The real dope here is that he showed either slow reaction time or fear by not getting after that ball. Simms calling the game nailed it in real time. The game was on the line and had he recovered they still had a good chance to win the game. Losing the ball without even trying to recover basically sealed their fate. That was a huge turnover and an equally huge 'no play' on the ball. Perhaps his left shoulder injury was a factor, but until he uses that excuse, that fumble flub will follow him.
Frankly he needed a healthy slice of humble pie.
It sends a message to the other 52 players that he isn't willing to go all out for them. Thomas Davis has to be wondering why he even laced them up with a broken forearm if Cam, his leader, wouldn't even dive to make an attempt for that fumble. Granted, they were not going to recover that fumble but it sends a message of a lack of leadership to the non-glamour positions that their so-called leader isn't willing to put that effort forwards they begin to think: Why should we?

I hear you. However, I'm not so sure he couldn't have gotten that ball if he dove for it immediately. Newton is a 250 lber and the Denver lineman who first go a hand on it was barely controlling it. It would have been close for sure,, but possible. We'll never know since he jumped away from the danger.


That's most definitely a possibility and we'll never know since its revisionist history at this point. The lack of effort will be what sticks with most detractors. Cam will hopefully get back to this point and the hope is that he holds himself with a bit more respect for his position. The sullen attitude will keep dividing and for someone who is high on his own image, it will be hard to shale. Humility will definitely be the aura he should look to have.

 by Neil039
9 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   2664  
 Joined:  Feb 02 2016
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Superstar

The Gemini Method wrote:
Hacksaw wrote:Good points Gemini. The real dope here is that he showed either slow reaction time or fear by not getting after that ball. Simms calling the game nailed it in real time. The game was on the line and had he recovered they still had a good chance to win the game. Losing the ball without even trying to recover basically sealed their fate. That was a huge turnover and an equally huge 'no play' on the ball. Perhaps his left shoulder injury was a factor, but until he uses that excuse, that fumble flub will follow him.
Frankly he needed a healthy slice of humble pie.
It sends a message to the other 52 players that he isn't willing to go all out for them. Thomas Davis has to be wondering why he even laced them up with a broken forearm if Cam, his leader, wouldn't even dive to make an attempt for that fumble. Granted, they were not going to recover that fumble but it sends a message of a lack of leadership to the non-glamour positions that their so-called leader isn't willing to put that effort forwards they begin to think: Why should we?


That identity might have to come someone on the defense. Davis, Kuechly, or Norman might have to assume that role. Maturity, humility or whatever is missing might never materialize for Cam while they have this group of players.

Your millennial post is spot on. Cam has the spring and a little bit of the summer to make some strides in his personal development. It will definitely be a topic of interest for the 2016 season.

 by The Gemini Method
9 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   21  
 Joined:  Feb 09 2016
United States of America   Garden Grove, CA
Undrafted Free Agent

Neil039 wrote:
The Gemini Method wrote:
Hacksaw wrote:Good points Gemini. The real dope here is that he showed either slow reaction time or fear by not getting after that ball. Simms calling the game nailed it in real time. The game was on the line and had he recovered they still had a good chance to win the game. Losing the ball without even trying to recover basically sealed their fate. That was a huge turnover and an equally huge 'no play' on the ball. Perhaps his left shoulder injury was a factor, but until he uses that excuse, that fumble flub will follow him.
Frankly he needed a healthy slice of humble pie.
It sends a message to the other 52 players that he isn't willing to go all out for them. Thomas Davis has to be wondering why he even laced them up with a broken forearm if Cam, his leader, wouldn't even dive to make an attempt for that fumble. Granted, they were not going to recover that fumble but it sends a message of a lack of leadership to the non-glamour positions that their so-called leader isn't willing to put that effort forwards they begin to think: Why should we?


That identity might have to come someone on the defense. Davis, Kuechly, or Norman might have to assume that role. Maturity, humility or whatever is missing might never materialize for Cam while they have this group of players.

Your millennial post is spot on. Cam has the spring and a little bit of the summer to make some strides in his personal development. It will definitely be a topic of interest for the 2016 season.


I'm just not sure how people can forget his background. His dad basically pimped him out to the highest bidder for services once he got his Gen Ed and grades matched up at Blinn JC and he got away with having stolen laptops while at Auburn. Not sure about most of us, but we would've gotten jail time or probation for such an undertaking. He has a sense of entitlement that will have to change in order for him to fully be embraced by the public. I don't have a problem with him in the very least. It's just easier to see the villain when the curtain is pulled back. So to speak.

 by Hacksaw
9 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   24523  
 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
Moderator

Some conditions run deep.. Some are irreversible. Hopefully for Cam, his condition will be cured by that humble pie he got thrown in his face.

 by The Gemini Method
9 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   21  
 Joined:  Feb 09 2016
United States of America   Garden Grove, CA
Undrafted Free Agent

Hacksaw wrote:Some conditions run deep.. Some are irreversible. Hopefully for Cam, his condition will be cured by that humble pie he got thrown in his face.
That's the hope. I know his situation has the potential to blossom into a Hall-of-Fame career but he has to be disciplined. I don't know if its similar, but he could end up the route of Vince Young who never really got a second shake at the NFL. Let's hope he gets his head adjusted and instead of Dabbin' he'll play with more maturity. Doesn't the Rams play Carolina in 2016? Would like to see how our D stands up to the Panthers.

 by Hacksaw
9 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   24523  
 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
Moderator

If his teams continue to do well and make post season appearances he will probably be bullet proof. If the team slumps into mediocrity then it's anyone's guess. I personally got really tired of his showboating, like TO and others before him.
You are going to get your chance to see how we stack up next year.

LA home games 2016
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 by The Gemini Method
9 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   21  
 Joined:  Feb 09 2016
United States of America   Garden Grove, CA
Undrafted Free Agent

Wow the schedule looks daunting with the usual trips to Seattle, Arizona, and New England. Throw in Carolina and that's a stiff schedule to kick off the return to L.A. Still, it'll be exciting how things go down in the Coliseum.

 by moklerman
9 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   7680  
 Joined:  Apr 17 2015
United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
Hall of Fame

Cam doesn't think he did or said anything wrong. Or, at least he's said so. Makes it hard to think he's going to change, much less consider changing.

 by Stranger
9 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   3213  
 Joined:  Aug 12 2015
United States of America   Norcal
Superstar

The Gemini Method wrote:
Neil039 wrote:
The Gemini Method wrote: It sends a message to the other 52 players that he isn't willing to go all out for them. Thomas Davis has to be wondering why he even laced them up with a broken forearm if Cam, his leader, wouldn't even dive to make an attempt for that fumble. Granted, they were not going to recover that fumble but it sends a message of a lack of leadership to the non-glamour positions that their so-called leader isn't willing to put that effort forwards they begin to think: Why should we?


That identity might have to come someone on the defense. Davis, Kuechly, or Norman might have to assume that role. Maturity, humility or whatever is missing might never materialize for Cam while they have this group of players.

Your millennial post is spot on. Cam has the spring and a little bit of the summer to make some strides in his personal development. It will definitely be a topic of interest for the 2016 season.


I'm just not sure how people can forget his background. His dad basically pimped him out to the highest bidder for services once he got his Gen Ed and grades matched up at Blinn JC and he got away with having stolen laptops while at Auburn. Not sure about most of us, but we would've gotten jail time or probation for such an undertaking. He has a sense of entitlement that will have to change in order for him to fully be embraced by the public. I don't have a problem with him in the very least. It's just easier to see the villain when the curtain is pulled back. So to speak.

I gotta found the documentary I saw on him and his family. It did a really good job of addressing all of this. I came away with a much more positive view on Cam after seeing it. It was really well done, and worth a watch. I'll look for it again and post if I can find.

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