[actionjack]

I mean, I dont think it is knowable how many wins we get next year. Who had us winning 5 games last year?? Obviously injuries are the ultimate unknown. Imo this team could win 4 games or it could top out at 9-10 wins with an amazing draft, great coaching and a finding some left over vets that produce.

I really hope we win more as I dont want to cut my football season short and be thinking draft come midseason.

LOL Jourdan agrees lol...(she reading here )

[BuiltRamTough]

Top 5 pick

[TomSlick]

What I believe is however bad we felt about (and during) 2022, our coach took it even harder. By a lot. Based on that, I can't believe we are going to suck in 2023. He will not allow it.

I only wish he had kept his disillusionment to his close allies, no need for the media and us fans to get the full dope on the matter.

I agree with @69superbowl1 . Dignity, even if the team blows. Blathering to the media about retirement was not dignified. It showed weakness and made the team look befuddled.

[bremillard]

I mean, I dont think it is knowable how many wins we get next year. Who had us winning 5 games last year?? Obviously injuries are the ultimate unknown. Imo this team could win 4 games or it could top out at 9-10 wins with an amazing draft, great coaching and a finding some left over vets that produce.

I really hope we win more as I dont want to cut my football season short and be thinking draft come midseason.

Nobody wants that but who wants to chase mediocrity for the next several years and winning 6-9 games per year might do exactly that. I'm a homer through and through but I'm a pragmatic one. There are no guarantees for finding first class quarterbacks but some look that way from the jump and CW looks that way. Question...if the Rams have 4 wins in mid December how many of you go to the tank side in hopes of getting Caleb? The team going in the 2023 right now is favored in exactly ONE GAME and that's Washington. I know things can happen and I'm not one for conspiracies but at one point not real long ago Sean was looking to be in broadcasting. Maybe there's been a plan made where '23 is sacrificed for several good years in the future? With what's at stake in the NFL why is this so far-fetched?

[rams74]

Question...if the Rams have 4 wins in mid December how many of you go to the tank side in hopes of getting Caleb?

Depends on how Caleb's (and USC's) 2023 season went.

But if Caleb is as good as you think he is, and shows it during the 2023 season, do you really think 4 wins will qualify for the #1 overall pick? I don't. If the Rams have 1 or 2 wins in mid-December, then it's a different conversation.

And if Caleb's 2023 season at USC doesn't merit the #1 overall pick (if he slipped for some reason to maybe the 3rd or 4th or 5th or 10th pick), then how sure would you be that this is the guy to tank for?

See, there are a lot of factors that are complete unknowns at this point in the year. It's really tough to have this conversation at this point. Just too many scenarios.

I, for one, don't think the Rams are going to be as bad as that.

[Hacksaw]

The Rams could be awful in 2023. Or they could be better than expected. One thing is interesting - the core leaders all seem to think it’s the latter.

I'm not sure what else they could say but they know their teammates way better than us. I hope they are right. If they are that would explain some things.

[actionjack]

I'm not sure what else they could say but they know their teammates way better than us. I hope they are right. If they are that would explain some things.

Yeah I think you are right, in a normal situation what else would they say, but they do seem to be confident about the season beyond just saying it.

[actionjack]

Nobody wants that but who wants to chase mediocrity for the next several years and winning 6-9 games per year might do exactly that. I'm a homer through and through but I'm a pragmatic one. There are no guarantees for finding first class quarterbacks but some look that way from the jump and CW looks that way. Question...if the Rams have 4 wins in mid December how many of you go to the tank side in hopes of getting Caleb? The team going in the 2023 right now is favored in exactly ONE GAME and that's Washington. I know things can happen and I'm not one for conspiracies but at one point not real long ago Sean was looking to be in broadcasting. Maybe there's been a plan made where '23 is sacrificed for several good years in the future? With what's at stake in the NFL why is this so far-fetched?

No 1 you have probably watched way more Caleb then I have, I do plan to watch him much more in the 2023 season.

Now the way I see it the Rams season can go 3 ways...

1. The "PARAM" season , the team doesnt miss a beat wins 10-12 wins, the offense looks like the SB season, the defense is able to rush the passer, defense easily keeps the Rams in games. Stafford looks like he could play another few years no problem.

2. This scenario the Rams muddle through the season on the borderline of making the playoffs. The offense is solid to good, the defense goes through some growing pains but the overall team is able to scratch out 7-9 wins.

3. The Rams offense still struggles, Staff doesnt look the same or gets hurt, questions about his future. The defense gets beat consistently and cant keep teams from scoring in the high 20's to 30's.

Now if the Ram fall into the 3rd scenario and Caleb still looks the guy maybe get a crack at them. But its hard to get the number 1 pick and would the Rams be willing to part with a boatload of picks just to move up a few spots??

What sounds like to me, is the Rams think they can compete THIS year and if they are trending up and think they have a chance to make a playoff run, dont be surprised they don't make a splash trade and than really after 2024 with a ton of cap room.

[CanuckRightWinger]

BACK BEFORE THE INTERNET AND THE 24 HOUR NEWS CYCLE & TWITTER
Following Los Ramos for decades back before the Internet was less complicated than now.
As a dedicated Rams fan, I bought all the Peterson's/Street&Smith NFL Annuals every August, memorized the new players' stats, Colleges, etc etc and then watch the General TV Media for Ram news.....and we ACTUALLY got some. IE. making the Mainstream News I can recall:
In December,1968 Ram Owner Reeves fired HC George Allen. Player/Leaders like Deacon, Merlin, Charlie Cowan et al demonstrate, threaten to hold-out, and Reeves caves and hires Allen back. This high-schooler was glad to see Allen reinstated.

1971, new Ram HC Tommy Prothro signs disgraced WR Lance Rentzel who got caught exposing his junk to young girls in both Minneapolis as a Viking, and in Dallas, where it got to be public knowledge and news. This high schooler knew, even at that youthful age that having a damaged fuck like Rentzel in OUR locker room was not good.

1979 Carroll Rosenbloom "drowns" in 3 feet of Florida surf. Within days, his widow Georgia fires son Steve Rosenbloom as Rams GM, and hires John DasVamir Shaw to run Los Ramos.

January, 1980 Georgia TheBlackWidow's new hubby, Domenic Frontiere gets caught red-handed stealing thousand of SBXIV tickets from the NFL and selling them to Western PA Travel Agencies. This 20-something Sales Guy cudn't believe all the fooking Steeler fans he witnessed camped at the RoseBowl that January Sunday morning. Domenic was charged & did jailtime....real jailtime. I was glad to see that!

In 1986 Georgia (Again) schintzing-out on generational RB, ED, and moving him off to Indy.

I'm probably missing some other pre-internet Rams stuff that made the Mainstream News, but my point is, Rams Fansdom was easier back then IE. we just wanted to see our team play well on Sundays....so yeah, like someone opined smartly.....dignity was important. IE. Even if GroundChuck Knox's teams fell short of the SB year after year, we had a helluva team that Ramsnation could all be very proud of!

TODAY:
Confusius Say: Man who lives in glass house should always get dressed in basement.
The non-stop internet buzz on the NFL, and our Rams is unrelenting. EVERYTHING gets exposed.....we all live in glass houses, and today we argue about it. Sometimes hatefully! Fuck, we argue now about how much money the Falcons paid for questionable 3rd overall CB pick the Lions made back in 2020....BTW, it's $3.681 MIL, as Detroit picked up $1.5 MIL to get the deal for Falcons' 5th Rounder done.
Fuck me....who knew about that kind of mouse-nuts shyte back in 1971???
Guys argue about if Cam Akers is a UFA next season, or if he lost a year of NFL service due to his Achilles injury in 2021. Clearly somebody has dimentia!
So IMO, it's tougher to just follow your NFL team in today's sizzling 24 hour internet news/podcast/twitter/etc environment.

Which brings me to TomSlick's smart line:
"Blathering to the media about retirement was not dignified."
I agree 100%.
ME: Hey Sean if you cannot stand the heat in my Rams Team's kitchen, after taking all those Stan Kroenke millions into your bank account, then make like the birds....
and flock off!!

Now some homer simpletons who cannot change gears within their cranium will say "Canuck hates McVay."
ME: Nope. I think he is one of the really smart Offensive minds in the NFL....
but that hissy fit he launched using his media buddy Peter Schrager as his news cycle conduit and accomplice was NOT dignified. SEAN McVAY: "It's ME! Not we."
Hey Sean...."leadership" means you also need to have some friggin' coping skills when things don't go your way. Like John F. Kennedy who authorized the Bay of Pigs disaster in Cuba......and then went on National TV to tell the American public that HE OWNED IT.
Now.....that's dignified.....and gutsy.
Whereas for me....watching that Peter Schrager suicide-watch bullshit....it was like:
Hey Karen! Get over yourself! My team just went 5-12, so keep earning your Kroenke millions by fixing things! Do your HC job.....or leave.

Where has Sean McVay taken ownership of that 5-12 shitshow from last season, huh?
The accepted buzzwards are "injuries of historic proportions."
Who wanted to shell out all those scarce millions to one Allen NewToy Robinson?
Who drafted gadget guy TuTu at #57? How have those McVay WR moves worked out for our team? Has McVay taken ownership? On TuTu...."I've got to use him better"
On AR, McVay is trying to unload AR (& his fat undefendable salary), but if we don't, McVay "is gonna use him better in 2023."

We had an Offensive Genius back 1999 thru to midseason 2005 named Mike Martz who also wasn't so good with personnel moves. Tell me cheerleaders....."Shoot we'll fix that!" and "Oh, I gotta use him better." Um, what's the fooking difference???!!!

Again, I have not lost hope in McVay's Offensive Smarts/Innovation......but I sure as fuck am not under the illusion that he is infallible.......nor beyond some criticism.

Okay....Cue the Alzheimer-diagnosing guy.

[Rams1PlateSince1976]

Nice post Canuck! There wasn't near the drama in life before the %#(^$^$ internet. I remember when I was in High School at Great Bend going to the library once a week to read the sports section in the Sunday LA paper which the library subscribed to!

I could survive if we all went back to the party line!