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 by Stranger
9 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Norcal
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moklerman wrote:
dieterbrock wrote:
moklerman wrote:RGIII is the one who wouldn't "go there" with Shanahan. RGIII wants to be a pocket passer but Shanahan knows how to get something out of him...which is running.

As far as Bradford, there's a lot that has gone on and I don't know if Shanahan would currently want him. But he's a FA and the Rams need a QB. If one adds Shanny to that mix...who knows?

Better chance at Peyton Manning (not that I would want that either)
Can you really think that anything is NEVER going to happen considering what just happened?

I'm just going to assume that the Rams get Martz and lure Warner out of retirement until it doesn't happen! ;)

Martz does live in San Diego. He wouldn't even have to move :)

 by moklerman
9 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
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Stranger wrote:
moklerman wrote:
dieterbrock wrote:Better chance at Peyton Manning (not that I would want that either)
Can you really think that anything is NEVER going to happen considering what just happened?

I'm just going to assume that the Rams get Martz and lure Warner out of retirement until it doesn't happen! ;)

Martz does live in San Diego. He wouldn't even have to move :)
Considering I think that Martz really wants back into the NFL, the logistics you mention, the Rams' need at OC, etc.

As much as people will write off any suggestion of Martz to the Rams, it doesn't really seem impossible to me.

 by den-the-coach
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Stranger wrote:
Please explain. Would appreciate your insights.


Took lemons and made lemonade this year in Cleveland. The Browns were a top 15 passing attack with talent that looked awfully similar to ours when McCown went down.

DeFilippo did an amazing job with their passing attack. The Browns weakness this year was the rushing attack. Which isn't an issue for us.




In his first year as an offensive coordinator in the NFL, DeFilippo was seen as a bright spot, at least in comparison to defensive coordinator Jim O'Neil and special teams coordinator Chris Tabor. There were definitely some flaws in the Browns' offense -- the thing that stands out the most is the fact that the team ranked 32nd in the red zone and 32nd in goal-to-go situations. In the red zone, they only scored touchdowns 38.3% of the time. To compare, the median team in the NFL scored touchdowns 55.1% of the time, while the best red zone team scored 69.4% of the time.

Those who watched the games got a sense that DeFilippo would learn from his mistakes, and his playcalling seemed to accommodate the Browns' offensive personnel well. One of his faults was trying to keep Kyle Shanahan's zone blocking scheme for three-fourths of the season, in hopes that he'd be allowing some continuity from the previous season. When he finally adapted over the final fourth of the season, the Browns' running game exploded in comparison to what they had been doing, and they actually ended up being ranked 16th in rushing yards per play on the season.

Josh McCown also set a couple of franchise records as a passer. It's not a guarantee that the Browns will lose DeFilippo, but they also apparently aren't going to hold he (and presumably other members of the staff) hostage, and understandably so.

 by Stranger
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den-the-coach wrote:
Stranger wrote:
Please explain. Would appreciate your insights.


Took lemons and made lemonade this year in Cleveland. The Browns were a top 15 passing attack with talent that looked awfully similar to ours when McCown went down.

DeFilippo did an amazing job with their passing attack. The Browns weakness this year was the rushing attack. Which isn't an issue for us.




In his first year as an offensive coordinator in the NFL, DeFilippo was seen as a bright spot, at least in comparison to defensive coordinator Jim O'Neil and special teams coordinator Chris Tabor. There were definitely some flaws in the Browns' offense -- the thing that stands out the most is the fact that the team ranked 32nd in the red zone and 32nd in goal-to-go situations. In the red zone, they only scored touchdowns 38.3% of the time. To compare, the median team in the NFL scored touchdowns 55.1% of the time, while the best red zone team scored 69.4% of the time.

Those who watched the games got a sense that DeFilippo would learn from his mistakes, and his playcalling seemed to accommodate the Browns' offensive personnel well. One of his faults was trying to keep Kyle Shanahan's zone blocking scheme for three-fourths of the season, in hopes that he'd be allowing some continuity from the previous season. When he finally adapted over the final fourth of the season, the Browns' running game exploded in comparison to what they had been doing, and they actually ended up being ranked 16th in rushing yards per play on the season.

Josh McCown also set a couple of franchise records as a passer. It's not a guarantee that the Browns will lose DeFilippo, but they also apparently aren't going to hold he (and presumably other members of the staff) hostage, and understandably so.

Is he still under Brown contract now that Hue is there?

 by dieterbrock
9 years 5 months ago
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moklerman wrote:Can you really think that anything is NEVER going to happen considering what just happened?

I'm just going to assume that the Rams get Martz and lure Warner out of retirement until it doesn't happen! ;)

I dont understand what you mean?
Shanahan and Fisher are close, and Manning will be FA and has made overturs to play for Shanahan in the past.
If the plan is all in to win in 2016, then a Shanny/Manning pairing would make perfect sense.
Provided the team already had a stud running back and dangerous D.
Oh, wait a second....

 by RedAlice
9 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Seattle
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dieterbrock wrote:
moklerman wrote:Can you really think that anything is NEVER going to happen considering what just happened?

I'm just going to assume that the Rams get Martz and lure Warner out of retirement until it doesn't happen! ;)

I dont understand what you mean?
Shanahan and Fisher are close, and Manning will be FA and has made overturs to play for Shanahan in the past.
If the plan is all in to win in 2016, then a Shanny/Manning pairing would make perfect sense.
Provided the team already had a stud running back and dangerous D.
Oh, wait a second....


No. I do not want Manning to be any part of the LA Rams return. He is his own legacy....he is not part of ours.

 by den-the-coach
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Stranger wrote:Is he still under Brown contract now that Hue is there?


Yes, but the Rams have already been granted permission and I think did interview him and now with Jackson being hired I'm sure he'll want his own guy as OC and maybe just a defacto OC as Jackson might call the plays.

 by dieterbrock
9 years 5 months ago
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Stranger wrote:Is he still under Brown contract now that Hue is there?

Good point. Rams can interview but not hire him until he's released from that contract

 by moklerman
9 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
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dieterbrock wrote:
moklerman wrote:Can you really think that anything is NEVER going to happen considering what just happened?

I'm just going to assume that the Rams get Martz and lure Warner out of retirement until it doesn't happen! ;)

I dont understand what you mean?
Shanahan and Fisher are close, and Manning will be FA and has made overturs to play for Shanahan in the past.
If the plan is all in to win in 2016, then a Shanny/Manning pairing would make perfect sense.
Provided the team already had a stud running back and dangerous D.
Oh, wait a second....

Rams back to LA is what I mean about the "impossible".

I'm just being silly with the most of the other stuff. I've been calling for Martz to return as OC for a few years now but I don't really consider it as a likely scenario. Same thing with Bradford. Bridges are probably burnt. But I could imagine a scenario where the Rams let Philly take the chance on seeing if he could stay healthy and now that he didn't blow out his knee again, maybe the bring him back? Not likely, but plausible.

I'd love for the Rams to get Shanahan but I have a real hard time thinking Shanahan would take a coordinator role. It'd be great for the Rams if he did, but even with his friendship with Fisher, I think it's right up there with Martz returning or Bradford returning in terms of likelihood. Unfortunately.

 by TSFH Fan
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Those who watched the games got a sense . . .


Fish and Gregg Williams watched a game and lots of film and it seems like they got a sense that they should talk to DeFilippo. Also, I'm going to assume that Fish and GW have talked about OC's that both thought were tough to coach against. I'm going to assume that GW didn't fall down laughing at the mention of DeFilippo. So, I'm willing to give this ex-Brown guy a chance.


Hey, about that QB Bradford guy, the idea of SB as a QB sounds nice and all. But the talk of over $18 mill/year . . . if it's true, that's a heck of a lot of cap space there esp., with his injury history. Sure, the number can be justified, and you can talk of market rate, etc., etc., etc., . . . but, yo, 18's a lot of scratch.

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