[HopHead Ram]

That very well could be the case but don't think it will matter. Moving the Rams from StL to LA, was a better opportunity to make money. Which as you well know the stadium was as much the goal as having the team in LA.

It was over a stadium that the move was made. So my take is when it is all said and done if the organization sees that playing the movie there will make them some money then I believe they will do so.

Of course it was about money but as a native Southern Californian, I really did not care why they moved just as long as they moved back home. SoFi is everything is was promised to be and more.

I just don't see how playing the movie at SoFi pencils out to be anything but a loss. I think the Rams organization have no desire. They are looking forward, not backwards and not to something that happened in another city with a player that, up to this point, has not really put in the work to generate excitement for this current team. They owe KW nothing just as KW owes the Rams nothing.

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I understand your feelings about Kurt. He did great things for the Rams, and will always have a special place in our hearts, but its fair to say that he, at times, seems... less than genuine. That's what happens when you join the national media.

That's very fair.

Really nice post.

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Of course it was about money but as a native Southern Californian, I really did not care why they moved just as long as they moved back home. SoFi is everything is was promised to be and more.

I just don't see how playing the movie at SoFi pencils out to be anything but a loss. I think the Rams organization have no desire. They are looking forward, not backwards and not to something that happened in another city with a player that, up to this point, has not really put in the work to generate excitement for this current team. They owe KW nothing just as KW owes the Rams nothing.

Thoughtful post. Raises valid points.

The reason why the Rams owe KW nothing is not so much because he never played in LA, while obviously a part of it, but he puts nothing into being a Ram, unlike other STL players such as Holt, Faulk, and Bruce. Heck, even SJax is into embracing the LA Rams. And I have all the love in the world for him as a REAL RAM.

The story that ED told recently about being in SoFi with SJax watching Henderson against the Bears, and SJax getting all excited about how Henderson was hitting the hole, actually gave me goose bumps. The man loves being a Ram. Thats what I'm talking about.

[HopHead Ram]

I think another POV to consider is that as mentioned earlier, KW is still very much part of the game as a national media talking head. He gets to stay connected that way. Players like Holt and SJax and all the other do not get the benefit of that outlet so the only way they get to stay connected is by doing what they are doing. Becoming unofficial ambassadors to their former team allows them access and privileges. The Rams see them as assets so afford them the perks. Bestowing those same perks to players like KW gains them nothing.
No one is saying that KW is a bad guy, they are just saying that he shouldn't get the perks that being a former Ram player that is still connected to the team should get. Those perks extend to the fanbase as well which is why players like ED can talk ill of the team when he sees something that he doesn't agree with but is forgiven because the fans still see him as one of them...A Fan of the team.

[TomSlick]

My image of Warner is a guy who comes into your house, tells you you’re gonna lose, then drinks your beer.

Good one, Max.

I suppose if he cleaned my toilets, I'd be okay with his beer consumption.

My wife is a big fan of Warner, though she's not impressed by the Hollywood leanings of he and his wife. I think some of the plastic surgery turned her off. It is okay to age gracefully, folks.

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I understand your feelings about Kurt. He did great things for the Rams, and will always have a special place in our hearts, but its fair to say that he, at times, seems... less than genuine. That's what happens when you join the national media.

Just a thought here, do you think Troy Aikman comes off as less than genuine? I don't feel that from him.

[Joe Pendleton]

I just remember Brenda always praying (and then crying).. she kinda reminded me of Tammy Faye Baker w the mascara running down her cheeks (yes, I’m that old lol)

[AvengerRam]

Just a thought here, do you think Troy Aikman comes off as less than genuine? I don't feel that from him.

Can't say that I pay that much attention to him.

Kurt is an interesting case. We all know about his humble beginnings, his faith, and the glory of the GSOT years. What some may have forgotten, to a degree, is how ugly it got towards the end. Kurt was not healthy, he played pretty badly at times, and he lashed out at the team, accusing Martz and possibly others of targeting him because of his faith.

But, as a member of the national media, Kurt cannot come across as bitter - particularly towards a team that moved back to one of the biggest markets and, with the rise of McVay, became increasingly newsworthy.

So he walks a fine line. I think he still has some pretty negative thoughts about his time with the Rams, but also, to some degree, wants to be part of the franchise, its history, and its future. That's a lot of hats to wear and, to me, it comes across as a bit forced and contrived at times.

I'm still a Kurt Warner fan, though. I've worn his jersey to games, and would do so again. Its a Rams jersey, after all, not an NFL Network jersey.

[rams74]

I think he still has some pretty negative thoughts about his time with the Rams,

I think you're wrong.

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So he walks a fine line. I think he still has some pretty negative thoughts about his time with the Rams, but also, to some degree, wants to be part of the franchise, its history, and its future. That's a lot of hats to wear and, to me, it comes across as a bit forced and contrived at times.

Big Warner fan from 99-02. After that, not so much.

The thing is, it doesn't matter whether he wants to be part of Rams history or not because that's not his call. He is a huge part of Rams history despite really only playing 3 years there. QB of the only Superbowl Champion Rams team. We can debate who was more important....who played a more integral role....Warner or Faulk or Martz....or whether it would have happened practically the same way had Rodney Harrison not been a dirty player......but he was the guy under center. As far as contrived, he's on a TV sports show. It's mostly contrived.

I'm sure he's bitter about how it ended when he should be grateful for the opportunity he was afforded (and to his credit, took full advantage). It wasn't his fault but he benefitted from a devastating injury to a team mate. Then he was injured, wasn't near the same guy he was from 99-01 and Bulger was the better option, benefitting from Warner's injury. The Rams traded Green and stuck with Warner so what's wrong with the Rams releasing Warner and sticking with Green. It's not like #13 played lights out with the Giants in 2004. Or Arizona in 2005-2007.

Thankful for the 3 great years he gave this Rams fan but I'm loyal to the name on the front, not the back.