[aeneas1]

More Magic with numbers by a1. Maybe you can explain how Goffs 24th ranked passer rating is actually good.

not only do you struggle with stats, but you also struggle with word meaning, not really surprising i guess...

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not only do you struggle with stats, but you also struggle with word meaning, not really surprising i guess...

On the contrary, it should be very surprising considering my background.

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What it is, actually, is a distortion.

It's weighted by the 3 bad games.

If you believe he's going to have another bad game like those 3, then, the avg. qb rating WITH those 3 games will sound accurate to you.

If you DON'T believe he's going to have another bad game like those 3 then, he is more likely to play like his average in the other 10 games--which is a qb rating of 100.65, which would rank 10th.
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OK. I'll go along with your premise. And I think you sold Goff short. If you take out the 2 SF games and the Miami game, Goff's passer rating is 103.3. That would put him tied with Allen at 7th best passer rating.

Whether we see Goff play another bad game like those 3 bad ones is debatable. It's only been 2 games from the last bad one against SF. I think it's fair to say we need to see more before we can draw that conclusion with confidence.

Thing is, Goff isn't facing a defense like SF and Miami the rest of the year. He should actually do well the next 3 games.

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OK. I'll go along with your premise. And I think you sold Goff short. If you take out the 2 SF games and the Miami game, Goff's passer rating is 103.3. That would put him tied with Allen at 7th best passer rating.

Whether we see Goff play another bad game like those 3 bad ones is debatable. It's only been 2 games from the last bad one against SF. I think it's fair to say we need to see more before we can draw that conclusion with confidence.

Thing is, Goff isn't facing a defense like SF and Miami the rest of the year. He should actually do well the next 3 games.

I think the 3 bad games are a result of both McVay and Goff not coping with what those 2 defenses can do. Both can get after the qb and cover. Not only do they not face another defense like that, McVay can do his thing where although he doesn't adjust effectively to defenses IN games he can do it between games.

So yes personally I am confident that Goff will not have another game like that this season.

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I think the 3 bad games are a result of both McVay and Goff not coping with what those 2 defenses can do. Both can get after the qb and cover. Not only do they not face another defense like that, McVay can do his thing where although he doesn't adjust effectively to defenses IN games he can do it between games.

So yes personally I am confident that Goff will not have another game like that this season.

Well, so am I but thats because Goff doesn't face another defense like Miami or SF this season. My argument is that we don't know if Goff is beyond his problems with SF and Miami defenses until next year.

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Well, so am I but thats because Goff doesn't face another defense like Miami or SF this season. My argument is that we don't know if Goff is beyond his problems with SF and Miami defenses until next year.

Not the way I see it. That's not Goff alone. That's McVay/Goff, same as the superbowl. Same as Chicago and Detroit 2018.

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[aeneas1]

What it is, actually, is a distortion. It's weighted by the 3 bad games.

yep, of course it is, add bias to the equation, or the inability to grasp numbers, and you walk around sounding like max, aping talking heads...

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yep, of course it is, add bias to equation, or the inability to grasp numbers, and you walk around sounding like max, aping talking heads...

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I'm not into the personal bashing part of that. Just interested in the Rams discussion.

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Not the way I see it. That's not Goff alone. That's McVay/Goff, same as the superbowl. Same as Chicago and Detroit 2018.

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weird how the rams major offensive collapses have come against certain dc, and specific defensive schemes, it's almost as if there might be an x's and o's issue, a problem attacking these looks....

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Whether we see Goff play another bad game like those 3 bad ones is debatable. It's only been 2 games from the last bad one against SF. I think it's fair to say we need to see more before we can draw that conclusion with confidence.

Thing is, Goff isn't facing a defense like SF and Miami the rest of the year. He should actually do well the next 3 games.

I think you're selling Goff short. Defenses "like" SF and Miami? He did well against Philadelphia, Buffalo, the Giants, Washington, Chicago and Tampa. It would be more accurate to say "Goff isn't facing SF the rest of the year" or even more accurate than that "The Rams aren't facing SF the rest of the year". The last two years the Rams are 18-11, 18-7 against teams not named the forty-niners. That win percentage equates to 11.5 wins on the year. Perhaps the fact we're 0-4 against SF the last 2 years might suggest it's more than just Goff? Our defense, which has been stellar this year, allowed 3 first half TD drives by SF of 76, 93 and 81, over the span of 4 possessions in the first matchup. I'm not putting that game on our D but it would seem they didn't exactly have a stellar game either.