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 by Hacksaw
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You know, anything is possible, but the words "COMMON SENSE" are being bantered about more frequently as of late.

Vinny spoke to whether or not ESK might go rogue. VB's response was I-pp ' if Carson is outright approved, then probably not.' Vinny then elaborated where he could see ESK making a case even with Carson approval. BUT, in a stalemate, that could be a different story. Definitely didn't rule it out.. hmmm.
From who Fred find out about the owners being PO'd at Goodell for losing that loser case they asked him to prosecute (brady balls)? I wonder how much of the owners motivation is Fred's spin? Claiming the owners are calling the Pat's 'Cheaters (as many have referred to them) and need to be taught a lesson' ? This part seems kind of weird.
Glad to hear that this won't be going past January though !!!

 by RedAlice
9 years 7 months ago
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So hoping this is done soon. Rams to LA is what I want done, but please end the cycle regardless.

Not sure if this is posted above in this thread, but the Hokey guy from STL who says he has access to all "STL" info has this spin. It never ceases to amaze me how every single new piece of information can have both a positive STL and LA spin.


------ from the PD:

I am a known entity and have a proven track record. I am not an "insider" per se, but I do have relationships with media members, business leaders and people associated with the task force.

Word this morning is that things have turned in St. Louis favor, and that Kroenke only cares about London games if he's staying here. Everyone came to understand after the last London situation that by taking that from Kroenke, they pushed him towards L.A.

Kroenke coming back to his London desires is a direct result of his anticipation of being here again next year.

The CVC is an outsider in all of this.

The Rams WILL play in St. Louis in 2016, and they will play a home game in London. If they are to stay in St. Louis, the annual London trip will continue. This will be part of the conditions of them staying.

Take my word or leave it, I do not care. I just want those that know me here to hear the news as I have heard it.

 by RedAlice
9 years 7 months ago
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I find it curious that he says " word this morning" - pointing to new STL favor information just before the announcement.

Um, no one that is not an idiot would think this is new information. It is new public information. The NFL has been working on the London schedule for months and months.

Word this morning is trying to spin word that has existed for months.

 by Hacksaw
9 years 7 months ago
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ArizonaBlue wrote:So hoping this is done soon. Rams to LA is what I want done, but please end the cycle regardless.

Not sure if this is posted above in this thread, but the Hokey guy from STL who says he has access to all "STL" info has this spin. It never ceases to amaze me how every single new piece of information can have both a positive STL and LA spin.


------ from the PD:

I am a known entity and have a proven track record. I am not an "insider" per se, but I do have relationships with media members, business leaders and people associated with the task force.

Word this morning is that things have turned in St. Louis favor, and that Kroenke only cares about London games if he's staying here. Everyone came to understand after the last London situation that by taking that from Kroenke, they pushed him towards L.A.

Kroenke coming back to his London desires is a direct result of his anticipation of being here again next year.

The CVC is an outsider in all of this.

The Rams WILL play in St. Louis in 2016, and they will play a home game in London. If they are to stay in St. Louis, the annual London trip will continue. This will be part of the conditions of them staying.

Take my word or leave it, I do not care. I just want those that know me here to hear the news as I have heard it.


That's Hokahey right? I recognize the style from RRF. Big hat, No cattle.

There are those who disseminate the information with their local spin. Perceptions are so often clouded by emotions. Hokahey is a StL Missourian tried and true and has taken pro active steps to save "his" Rams. I'm sure that the folks he hangs with are wearing the same filters and are equally as hopeful. And they have all been wrong before.

 by RedAlice
9 years 7 months ago
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@Hacksaw - yes, it's that guy's post. I just call him Hokey.

Put your right hand in, put your left hand out.....

 by Hacksaw
9 years 7 months ago
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ArizonaBlue wrote:I find it curious that he says " word this morning" - pointing to new STL favor information just before the announcement.

Um, no one that is not an idiot would think this is new information. It is new public information. The NFL has been working on the London schedule for months and months.

Word this morning is trying to spin word that has existed for months.

AZ, the word he was referring to was likely the London thing and they took that as there is no way that a relocating team would leave an open date when trying to gather momentum.

They will be in the Coliseum (if) which will be uncomfortably nostalgic at first so missing a game day might make Pat Haden happy. NFL too. It's the corporate side I'd be a bit more concerned with, but a game in London with a world view shouldn't hurt that.

Back to point, some discussion may have happened there and one of his sources heard something. Could it be the same info Fred got? That happened today too. (I'd like to know who Fred;s 4 sources are). They must then think this thing between Spanos and Goodell is a loser for Stan, or at least that is their perception? Again I think it boils down to emotion clouding better judgement.

I double check myself every hour of the day. lol

 by Hacksaw
9 years 7 months ago
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ArizonaBlue wrote:@Hacksaw - yes, it's that guy's post. I just call him Hokey.

Put your right hand in, put your left hand out.....


Ha Ha,, the hokahey-pokey. LOL

 by max
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This thing is getting so bad that the posts on this board often contain incoherent sentences.

I have no idea what going on anymore, and from what I'm reading no one else does either.

 by RedAlice
9 years 7 months ago
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Hacksaw wrote:
ArizonaBlue wrote:I find it curious that he says " word this morning" - pointing to new STL favor information just before the announcement.

Um, no one that is not an idiot would think this is new information. It is new public information. The NFL has been working on the London schedule for months and months.

Word this morning is trying to spin word that has existed for months.

AZ, the word he was referring to was likely the London thing and they took that as there is no way that a relocating team would leave an open date when trying to gather momentum.

They will be in the Coliseum (if) which will be uncomfortably nostalgic at first so missing a game day might make Pat Haden happy. NFL too. It's the corporate side I'd be a bit more concerned with, but a game in London with a world view shouldn't hurt that.

Back to point, some discussion may have happened there and one of his sources heard something. Could it be the same info Fred got? That happened today too. (I'd like to know who Fred;s 4 sources are). They must then think this thing between Spanos and Goodell is a loser for Stan, or at least that is their perception? Again I think it boils down to emotion clouding better judgement.

I double check myself every hour of the day. lol


I meant word this morning in STL re: London game.

London game as announced by the NFL this morning has been in the works for months. STL just learned it. STL just now learned it and responded to it. NFL has been planning it already for months. The schedule is not new and did not JUST happen this week. Think about it.

The NFL announced it, not Kroenke.

STL JUST NOW responded, they had no idea this was being planned. I'd say cupcake to LA for this one.

No matter Hokey's dance.

 by RedAlice
9 years 7 months ago
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BTW, go back to my Game Day Thread and check out the Bengal's forums. They don't hate that they got handed a home game in London.

No one there is crazy.

No one is freaking out.

They actually kinda like it.

They also think they are going in as SuperBowl winners...but, hey. gotta give them that right now.

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