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Luck is being used as an example. Here's Luck in his third year...again using the rough cut-off of a below 80 qb rating to indicate a below average game.

Luck had 6 games like that in his 3rd year, and interestingly 3 of them come in a bunch together at the end of the season (games 14-15) and then 2 more come in the playoffs. So that's 5 of the last 7. Since they were a wild card , that's 6 of 19 games total, and of course 5 of the last 7.

In that final patch which includes 5 of 7 below avg. games, Luck has a completion percentage in the 50s 3 times. He also has 6 TDs and 11 INTs (in the 13 better games all year combined, he has 36 TDs and 9 INTs).

The third year thing. Same with Goff.

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Wow... those stats do not bode well for us...

...if we're forced to play Blake Bortles!

hell, i say why re-up goff and break the bank, grab a 3rd round qb in next year's draft and keep this baby rolling!

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hell, i say why re-up goff and break the bank, grab a 3rd round qb in next year's draft and keep this baby rolling!

There ya go. Now you're thinking like the a1 we all know and love.

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kinda like when, with the first round bye at stake and the guy who reportedly stirs the rams offensive machine riding pine and his favorite target out for the season, he led the rams to two consecutive ass kickings to close out the regular season and secure a first round breather? you know, when he led his gang to an average 36 offensive points per game and booked a 126.7 qb rating in the process? all i can say is thank god he had "everything right around him so that he could produce at an elite level" at the time, or god only knows what might have happened!

Remind be again of who those 2 impressive performances were against. what were their combined records? And who were their QBs?

Lets see.... AZ and SF, 7-25 and Rosen and Mullins. Wow. I'm blown away.

Hey, I was very happy with Goff's performance in those 2 games, but let's not make it out that they were this huge challenge.

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Hey, I was very happy with Goff's performance in those 2 games, but let's not make it out that they were this huge challenge.

Plus "inconsistent" is a well chosen word. It means up and down. Or, TOO up and down. You can have good games in the middle of being inconsistent. That's why it's called "inconsistent" and not "just plain relentlessly bad."

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Plus "inconsistent" is a well chosen word. It means up and down. Or, TOO up and down. You can have good games in the middle of being inconsistent. That's why it's called "inconsistent" and not "just plain relentlessly bad."

Yup. Just look at the graph. The inconsistency sticks out like a sore thumb.

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It's obvious you want to be right about Goff not being elite. That's your perogitive. But do u need a new thread every time? You've posted 19 other threads just add it on to one of those. Give those that think Goff is actually good a break. Thanks

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Remind be again of who those 2 impressive performances were against. what were their combined records? And who were their QBs?

Lets see.... AZ and SF, 7-25 and Rosen and Mullins. Wow. I'm blown away.

Hey, I was very happy with Goff's performance in those 2 games, but let's not make it out that they were this huge challenge.

The old cherry picking angle rears it’s head once again...

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The old cherry picking angle rears it’s head once again...

Not really...no. You cannot cherry pick if you are demonstrating "inconsistency." Inconsistency means up and down performance, so you show both.

That has nothing to do with the actual real meaning of the term "cherry picking." Cherry picking means you leave something out to favor one view.

If you're demonstrating inconsistency, by definition you are looking at BOTH the up and down performances. You have to account for both OR it's not "inconsistency."

Doesn't matter how well Goff played against SF and ARZ *if* the issue is inconsistency. Then you just have to show that 3 of the games before and 2 of the 3 games after SF & ARZ are below avg. (which is precisely the case.)

Ergo, inconsistent.

Trying to dismiss the down games as if he WEREN'T being inconsistent in the final 8 games? THAT is cherry picking.

And I will repeat all this to calm the waters and lower the temperatures. It is just simply not uncommon for good qbs to have been inconistent that way in their third year. I've already shown it happened with several good qbs (so far...Brady, Ryan, Roethlisberger, Luck). And being inconsistent is something a young qb can work on--in fact the Rams ARE working on it.

The best games point to where his ceiling is, BUT, all he has to do is perform more (can't avoid this word) consistently.

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i watched luck in the divisional round and said to myself "now there's the qb i hope goff will someday become".

All I'm trying to say is ALL quarterbacks have off games. A big deal is being made of "Goff's last 8 games" and there's a reason for that. It started with an off game/bad game vs Detroit. An arbitrary number....8 games...signifying half a season. But his half season was 10 games (or 9, whichever way you look at it). In game 9 the Rams lost to the Saints, their first of the season. He responded with two stellar games and then the bye came.

In fact for shits and giggles, let's put the Superbowl aside.....it's a huge game in which both quarterbacks played to a rating under 80, that magical Mendoza line for QBs that determines (for some fans) a good game or a bad game. It divides the season into two 9 game stretches. In his first 9 games Goff had 1 game under 80 (Denver). In Brady's first 9 games he had 1 game under 80. In Goff's last 9 games he had 4 under 80. In Brady's last 9 he had 3. And like I said, neither went above 80 in the Superbowl.

Man if Jared Goff would just be as consistent as Tom Brady, then we'd have something.

What that says to me is as the season progresses, the games have more importance (for both teams), especially in the postseason. Is it surprising that Drew Brees had just 3 games under the Mendoza line but 2 came in the last 9 weeks of his season (in reality the last 6 weeks)?

and here's all qbs compared to goff

Wow, he sucks. Puny little 3rd year quarterback (really only 2 years in an NFL offense)!!!!