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Not good about Allen, and wasup with Edwards? Is he coming back??

Jefferson

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Not good about Allen, and wasup with Edwards? Is he coming back??

Is it some kind of rule he's got a minimum number of games to miss because of his 2nd concussion?

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Is it some kind of rule he's got a minimum number of games to miss because of his 2nd concussion?

No rule as far as I know, just depends if he is still having symtoms, i.e. still in protocol.

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No rule as far as I know, just depends if he is still having symtoms, i.e. still in protocol.

I think he's on IR, which means 4 weeks.

[ramsman34]

I think he has 2 more weeks he’s out on IR. Scheme will be tested this week, yet again.

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Oh absolutely. We should also take into account the talent on the O line that he sent to the bench by starting.

There's another way to evaluate whether you can find starting OL in the 3rd round (or any other round). Look around the NFL at who all the teams have starting right now.

For instance of the 8 division leaders (40 lineman), just 18 were drafted in the first two rounds. That leaves 22 from the 3rd round down. I think it's safe to say, with those kind of percentages, you don't need to use early round picks to find a quality starter.

You need numerators and denominators to determine rates.

22 is a numerator.

The denominator is all the picks used on OL over all the years they were picked. It could be that for every quality OL starter teams found in the 3rd round or later, they drafted 8 or 9 that weren’t quality starters.

So yeah, you can find quality OL in the 3rd round or later, but how many picks do you need to use, on average, to hit on one? My guess is the hit rate is less than 25% to hit on a quality OL after the 2nd round.

Look at the Rams. How many quality OL have they drafted after the 2nd round in the past 10 years? Outside of Havenstein, who was a 2nd rounder, I would say we haven’t drafted any quality OL since 2012.

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You need numerators and denominators to determine rates.

22 is a numerator.

The denominator is all the picks used on OL over all the years they were picked. It could be that for every quality OL starter teams found in the 3rd round or later, they drafted 8 or 9 that weren’t quality starters.

So yeah, you can find quality OL in the 3rd round or later, but how many picks do you need to use, on average, to hit on one? My guess is the hit rate is less than 25% to hit on a quality OL after the 2nd round.

Look at the Rams. How many quality OL have they drafted after the 2nd round in the past 10 years? Outside of Havenstein, I would say we haven’t drafted any quality OL since 2012.

All I need to know is 8 drafted this year, 4 are starting. I don't know how numerators or denominators change that.

The Rams (under McVay) have taken three third round lineman. Noteboom, Evans and Bruss. I think we all agree Evans isn't a starter. Some believe neither is Noteboom. Bruss scores an incomplete.

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All I need to know is 8 drafted this year, 4 are starting. I don't know how numerators or denominators change that.

The Rams (under McVay) have taken three third round lineman. Noteboom, Evans and Bruss. I think we all agree Evans isn't a starter. Some believe neither is Noteboom. Bruss scores an incomplete.

I don’t know enough about other teams.

I do know about the Rams. Go back several years and look at all the OL they picked after the 2nd round.

Guys like, Demby, Jamon Brown, Andrew Donnal, Cody Wickmann, Barrett Jones, Rok Watson.

All busts.

Maybe Bruss makes it. But it’s not likely based on past history that he becomes a quality starter.

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I don’t know enough about other teams.

I do know about the Rams. Go back several years and look at all the OL they picked after the 2nd round.

Guys like, Demby, Jamon Brown, Andrew Donnal, Cody Wickmann, Barrett Jones, Rok Watson.

All busts.

Maybe Bruss makes it. But it’s not likely based on past history that he becomes a quality starter.

And go back and look at the OL they took in the first round. GRob. Jason Smith. Higher round guarantees nothing.

But we weren't talking about the 5th, 6th and 7th rounds. Or the first round. We were talking about the 3rd round and I see 3rd rounders starting all over the NFL. So they can be had there. Can the Rams do it? Let's see what happens with Bruss next year.

[Hacksaw]

We are all extremely disappointed in the results so far but we need to stand behind our guys. The brass has been the envy of all. They notched a pair of SB's and 1 Lombardi in 6 yrs.

Some Oline injuries and top end defections/retirements are always hard to overcome.