[Gareth]

So you'd still want Goff at QB, just for less money?

I'm sure Stan Kroenke appreciates you looking out for his financial well-being, but that doesn't really address the turnover issue, does it?

And your response is no better than what you’re ripping. It’s not about Stan’s money - it’s about salary cap money. Paying Goff less would help the team.

[PARAM]

Depends on who's doing the rating. I got my info here and since you brought up playoff rating...yeah...that's 73.6.

https://www.nfl.com/players/jared-goff/stats/career
Mahomes career consists of 42 games.

Well Goff has played 65 games. So he's brought his team back in 12% of the games he's played. In 64% of the others, he didn't have to bring them back....he had them ahead. Mahomes has brought his team back in 14% of the games he's played. Simple fact. That stat ain't that important. But I'll gladly admit Mahomes is the best in the game right now.

BTW, if you want I could give you the formula for figuring out QB rating, so you don't have to go by what websites say. The information you have is wrong. Here's a better website and far more reliable.

[PARAM]

Anyone trying to argue that the last 2 years has been anything but less than mediocre is just in spin mode.

Yeah, it's not like anybody would have to fudge numbers to prove that....since it's a fact right??

[AvengerRam]

And your response is no better than what you’re ripping. It’s not about Stan’s money - it’s about salary cap money. Paying Goff less would help the team.

You still need a QB. I've yet to hear a Plan B (unless Plan B is Goff, but for less money, which really doesn't solve the problem if you think QB is a problem).

[Gareth]

You still need a QB. I've yet to hear a Plan B (unless Plan B is Goff, but for less money, which really doesn't solve the problem if you think QB is a problem).

I agree and I have no desire to move on from Goff. But if you are going to reply to someone’s post in a snide fashion, at least make a relevant point.

[max]

You still need a QB. I've yet to hear a Plan B (unless Plan B is Goff, but for less money, which really doesn't solve the problem if you think QB is a problem).

I've heard some off the wall Plan B's. Just look at the twitterverse. There are Rams fans out there who want Haskins. Don't ask me what they're smoking.

[PARAM]

You still need a QB. I've yet to hear a Plan B (unless Plan B is Goff, but for less money, which really doesn't solve the problem if you think QB is a problem).

Goff needs to clean things up a bit for sure. But if your QB sucks, you're best case scenario is .500. But you're probably not going to get there. Of course if you have a dominant defense week in and week out, you might get there. Maybe even above .500. Last year we were 9-7 and if Zuerlein makes a 44 yarder against Seattle, something he could do in his sleep (41 of 50 from 40-49 before last year), the Rams are 10-6 and in the postseason 3 out of 3 years. Now our defense was good but certainly not dominant. And you don't get to the postseason 2 out of 3 times, let alone 3 out of 3, if your QB sucks. So I guess we'll have to settle for 3 out of 4. I just hope the fans who think Goff needs to go, don't have an aneurysm from it.

[aeneas1]

I only know that he's ranked 165th on game winning drives with guys like Sam Bradford equal to or better.

seems that you're looking at career game winning drives while ignoring years played, number of games played, and game winning drive opportunities - in short, the numbers you're looking at are meaningless without context.

here's a look at game winning drives as a % of game winning drive opportunities, for the 1990-2020 stretch, minimum 50 starts... in order for a qb to be credited with a game winning drive, he has to put his team ahead for the win after trailing at some point in the 4th quarter.

[AvengerRam]

I agree and I have no desire to move on from Goff. But if you are going to reply to someone’s post in a snide fashion, at least make a relevant point.

I asked a direct question. The response was an evasive tangent.

Sorry if my snide response offended you.

[AvengerRam]

seems that you're looking at career game winning drives while ignoring years played, number of games played, and game winning drive opportunities - in short, the numbers you're looking at are meaningless without context.

here's a look at game winning drives as a % of game winning drive opportunities, for the 1990-2020 stretch, minimum 50 starts... in order for a qb to be credited with a game winning drive, he has to put his team ahead for the win after trailing at some point in the 4th quarter.

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I always knew that Vince Young was the greatest QB ever. Unfortunately, his career was tragically cut short by his chronic flatulence: