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 by dieterbrock
5 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
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moklerman wrote:I don't know that that is an accurate way to describe how everyone feels. Goff was certainly the QB on a SB team but that doesn't give him a free pass regarding his personal performance in perpetuity.
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Like I said, the doubters just will doubt.
They don't win that NFC Championship game unless Goff plays the way he did. His clutch throws to Higbee would be considered legendary if made by a different QB

 by moklerman
5 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
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dieterbrock wrote:Like I said, the doubters just will doubt.
They don't win that NFC Championship game unless Goff plays the way he did. His clutch throws to Higbee would be considered legendary if made by a different QB
And strawmen will make strawman arguments. No one EVER argued that the Rams would have won that game without Goff. He definitely played well at just the right time in that game but his body of work before and since that game give legitimate cause for doubt. The moments of brilliance, which there have been, are sporadic and only reinforce the narrative that he's inconsistent.

 by aeneas1
5 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   Norcal
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ha ha, butthurt city for more than a few - :D

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 by dieterbrock
5 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
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moklerman wrote:And strawmen will make strawman arguments. No one EVER argued that the Rams would have won that game without Goff. He definitely played well at just the right time in that game but his body of work before and since that game give legitimate cause for doubt. The moments of brilliance, which there have been, are sporadic and only reinforce the narrative that he's inconsistent.

Who’s straw man? I said he led them to the super bowl, and you minimized the importance to just being the QB on a SB team.

 by sloramfan
5 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   cen coast cal
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ya.. pretty damn sporadic... 1st one year and second another, IN SCORING!!!!

any ol' bradford type QB can EASILY pull that off... :lol2:

goff is definately a problem.. get rid of him... :roll2:

no argument now ;)

go rams

slo

 by snackdaddy
5 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   Merced California
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I think we can all agree Goff is having a bad overall season compared the previous two. Too many turnovers. Difficulty in the redzone. The offense as a whole is having a bad season. Run blocking has been bad most the time. Play calling has been iffy. To say Goff is THE problem is very shortsighted.

To say his contract is going to cripple them is shortsighted too. Quarterbacks get paid. Every time a QB gets a new contract people think its too much. In a few years its going to be middle of the road. I hear all about how teams who have their QB on a rookie deal can build a Superbowl team. How many of those teams have won a Superbowl? Not many. Maybe Seattle with Wilson. Philly won with a backup to one of those rookies.

 by AvengerRam
5 years 7 months ago
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Israel   Lake Mary, Florida
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snackdaddy wrote:I think we can all agree Goff is having a bad overall season compared the previous two.


In terms of outcome, that is undeniable.

In terms of individual performance, its very difficult to say. On the one hand, there have been some poor throws and missed opportunities that could be characterized as "unforced errors." Overall, though, I believe that the primary reasons for his statistical downturn arethe performance of the offense as a whole (the OL in particular), and some questionable play calling.

To say his contract is going to cripple them is shortsighted too. Quarterbacks get paid. Every time a QB gets a new contract people think its too much. In a few years its going to be middle of the road. I hear all about how teams who have their QB on a rookie deal can build a Superbowl team. How many of those teams have won a Superbowl? Not many. Maybe Seattle with Wilson. Philly won with a backup to one of those rookies.


I agree with this completely. Goff is good enough to be worth a long-term commitment. While, at this moment in time, his contract seems very rich... give it a couple of years. Once guys like Mahomes and Watson get their second contracts, Goff's deal will no longer seem that large.

Ultimately, when I look at this team's future, I ask "how can we help Jared Goff succeed," not "should we look to replace Jared Goff."

 by Hacksaw
5 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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AvengerRam wrote:Ultimately, when I look at this team's future, I ask "how can we help Jared Goff succeed," not "should we look to replace Jared Goff."


This !!

 by snackdaddy
5 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   Merced California
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AvengerRam wrote:Ultimately, when I look at this team's future, I ask "how can we help Jared Goff succeed," not "should we look to replace Jared Goff."


I'm pretty sure this is the approach the team is taking. I know there are some who woulda rather moved on from him. But I think it has more to do with the instant gratification thing. Face it, if fans were in charge coaches and players would be fired and cut weekly. No team is going to cut a guy who's done what he's done the previous two years. Two years is plenty enough of a sample size to see what he's capable of.

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