[AvengerRam]

Wow. You’re on a roll. Another magnificent post.

Of course, I totally agree with all of it.

[Elvis]

If you guys keep agreeing like this, i'm gonna have to lock this thread up...

[max]

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Weird, right?

[max]

I just rewatched the post game show after the saints playoff game. All of those guys, Strahan, jimmy johnson, Bradshaw, Tony Gonzales, etc., all had rave reviews for Goff.

Now, after Goff’s poor performance in the SB, that wasn’t entirely his fault and no worse than Roethlisbergers first SB, Goff is getting bashed by the media. Just so shortsighted.

[/zn/]

Wow. You’re on a roll. Another magnificent post.

Of course, I totally agree with all of it.

Yes he was impressive in the Saints game. For real.

A lot of what 2018 showed us was intangibles. Not just top statistical performances.

Before 2018, for example, it was reasonable to ask if Goff was going to improve as a clutch/comeback performer. And he did, he absolutely did, he came through when it comes to that---winning an impressive percentage of the time in comeback situations. The Saints game showed that kind of poise and clutch play.

My question this thread is, can he become more consistent, ie. so that he does not have those kind of "5 out of 8 games" stretches with below average play. I keep saying that it's actually not rare for a lot of good qbs to have had third years like that....so in fact it's not that uncommon to go through that and come out of it.

So yes that is something a guy can shed and grow out of. Not that all games will be like the Vikes games, but that he won't have clusters of below average games like that.

You combine more consistent play with the kind of clutch play he showed, and you have much more than a slinger who can score a lot in the McVay offense (not that that is a bad thing, lol ). It's just a more complete package.


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[snackdaddy]

Goff definitely had a rough 3 week stretch from Weeks 13-15.

When did he have his best game, though? Some might argue it was against Minnesota, when he was damn near perfect. Some would point to the shootout against KC. Both would be good choices.

If you define "best" as "most impressive," though, I'd have to go with his performance in the NFC Championship game.

After two series, he was 2-4 for 7 yards and an interception. The offense didn't produce a first down, and the entire offense seemed pretty rattled by the extreme crowd noise and a hyped-up Saints defense.

From the third series to the end of the game, Goff went 23-36 for 290 yards and a TD (no more INTs) for a passer rating of 98.2. He helped the Rams erase a 13-0 deficit, and made some great throws in the fourth quarter when the Rams were down 20-17 and 23-20. Throughout that portion of the game, he outplayed Drew Brees.

That impressed me.

That is something I've been trying to say for a while. But many non Rams fans only see the Superbowl as their proof. You cannot say the NFCCG wasn't the biggest game of most the players careers at the time.

The intensity in conference championship games seem different from Superbowls. With the circus atmosphere surrounding Superbowls the hype leading up to it seems to overshadow the event itself. Sure, it hurts to lose. But you can't help but feel a weight off your shoulders when you reach it.

[aeneas1]

Of course. It does go both ways, as evidenced by the Eagles critical review of Goff.

Are we clowns because we believe that?

it's clownish to complain about an impressive 2-year run as cherrypicking, and then in your next breath try to point to a few games as proof why the run wasn't particularly impressive.

as far as believing, taking to heart, and/or being impressed by an eagles fan's negative take on goff, well that's just flat out odd, and flat out max.

[aeneas1]

That is something I've been trying to say for a while. But many non Rams fans only see the Superbowl as their proof. You cannot say the NFCCG wasn't the biggest game of most the players careers at the time.

sadly, it's not only non-rams fans who can't see t forest through the trees.

goff outplayed a future shoe-in hall of famer in last year's cc game, in the other guy's house, in front of the other guy's deafening fans.

in crunch time, from the 4th quarter on, with the game on the line, goff led the rams to two scores, that tied the game and won the game - brees completed 36% of his passes for 59 yards, a pick, and a 16.9 qb rating, while goff completed 62% of his passes for 135 yards and a 96.6 qb rating.

meanwhile, back at the ranch, luck led his team to just 6 offensive points against the league's 29th ranked defense in the divisional round as the chiefs whipped luck and company to the tune of 31-13.

[max]

it's clownish to complain about an impressive 2-year run as cherrypicking, and then in your next breath try to point to a few games as proof why the run wasn't particularly impressive.

as far as believing, taking to heart, and/or being impressed by an eagles fan's negative take on goff, well that's just flat out odd, and flat out max.

Who complained? I didn't see any complaining. The point was Goff indeed had some bad games down the stretch last year. That doesn't discount all of the terrific games he had. It just points to inconsistency common in a young QB.

And where did I say I believed, took to heart and/or am impressed by an eagles fan?

Man, you have a way of connecting dots that aren't there.

You have your opinion of what Goff is right now, and that is totally your prerogative. But to slam others for a different but reasonable opinion is flat out rude.

[aeneas1]

Who complained? I didn't see any complaining.

you can't possibly be this obtuse max?

you and zn claim homers cherrypick positive games and stats, zn doubles down by saying "sorry, i prefer to live in the rals world"... you both then proceed to cherrypick negative games and stats, or point to negative games and stats, as proof positive.

And where did I say I believed, took to heart and/or am impressed by an eagles fan?

i guess i clearly misunderstood your point and intent when you wrote "Wow. That was a drubbing they gave Goff over there. They basically said Goff sucks." and added nothing more in response to what the eagles blogger / fan wrote.

nothing about his claim that the rams roster is a house of cards, or if the rams win it has to be now because it won't be later, or his droning on about goff's super bowl performance, yet not mentioning one word about goff's performance two weeks earlier, on the road, against a future hall of famer.

nope, instead you came away with "Wow. That was a drubbing they gave Goff over there. They basically said Goff sucks." - again, clearly, i misunderstood your point and intent.