[BobCarl]

Aaron Donald on D and Jared "Legit Franchise QB" Goff on O but will we be able to surround them with complimentary players to maximize their talents? I guess we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

I expect this sort of (blame Donald) argument a lot ... I'm not saying you will do this ... but a Lot of the 99%ers will blame Donald for the Rams not having the complimentary guys in 2018 and 2019... my argument ( which will be dismissed by those 99%) is how many complimentary players could we have gotten if we didn't trade away 6 draft picks and took Prescott instead?

[BobCarl]

According to that logic only winning teams can offer elite players fair market contracts ....

I might change one word so that I can agree with such logic ... I'd change "winning teams" to "competitive teams" ... as in the beginning of Reggie McKenzie's stint with the Raiders .. .they were so bad that they had to over pay players just to be stop-gaps.

[BobCarl]

How can anyone tell who's being unreasonable if numbers aren't mentioned?

You're point doesn't have merit because it gives the Rams a clean slate ... which in this case they don't have a clean slate in managing player's contracts.

And YES, since we don't have the real numbers for this issue to be judged in the court of public opinion, all I/we have to go on, is the Rams track record of the Rams effing up contracts.

As far as I'm concerned .. if the Rams end up giving him a fair contract ... just the fact that he won't be playing in game one, tells me that Donald's contract is a pooch and Snead & Demoff made the contract pregnant.

[BuiltRamTough]

[aeneas1]

Question, Who would you rather have. A fully realized Sammy Watkins or an Aaron Donald? Which one leads to more overall success? I am a defensive guy at heart having played on that side of the ball my entire playing career but I also realize that the modern NFL is an offensive game and impact players on Offense will always trump impact players on Defense. I want them to pay AD but just not to a point that becomes detrimental to the team. As the saying goes " I root for the name on the front, not the name on the back"

good question... personally i would rather have donald, but in the scheme of things neither would matter if the qb stunk, the broncos sent two 1,000+ yard wr to the pro bowl last season, two guys who have gone to the pro bowl before, yet their offense stunk with siemian under center.

[aeneas1]

I agree 100% ... that is why I want a guy on my defense that can get the ball back for our offense

yep, and that's why donald is so special, because of how disruptive he is against the pass... gotta be able to pass the ball, gotta be able to stop the pass.

[Hacksaw]

Sure would have been great to see how Donald's game translated to the new system and alignment before giving him a kings ransom for a lot of years.

[/zn/]

Sure would have been great to see how Donald's game translated to the new system and alignment before giving him a kings ransom for a lot of years.

Demoff has said that Wade is all in and that Wade reminds him Donald is a guy he wants a lot.

Wade's defense is built around what players can do. So he doesn't have this imposed system where you fit it or you don't. He tailors his attack around his players' strengths. So when he has Donald, it will be less of a case of finding out if AD fits Wade's defense, and more of a case where Wade sets things up to take advantage of what AD can do.

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[Hacksaw]

Demoff has said that Wade is all in and that Wade reminds him Donald is a guy he wants a lot.

Wade's defense is built around what players can do. So he doesn't have this imposed system where you fit it or you don't. He tailors his attack around his players' strengths. So when he has Donald, it will be less of a case of finding out if AD fits Wade's defense, and more of a case where Wade sets things up to take advantage of what AD can do.

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Well that's actually good as it may help them adapt to his absence more easily. Still would be good to make sure it works. .

[Neil039]

We will rally behind Scott Tolzein and play...oops! Truly over the Donald situation, just Game Plan with the players you have available.