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 by ramsman34
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   Back in LA baby!
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I’m sure it is too. But don’t be surprised if Skura get reps there at some point soon. Sure Evans is large. But he is not strong, a waist bender, and not athletic. His size is negated by his lack of functional skill and strength, IMO. He is the weak link. I hope neither are there soon. And we get someone proper and talented in a trade. I think strength and technique can, and often do, trump pure size.

 by max
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   Sarasota, FL
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AvengerRam wrote:Signing Joe Noteboom when we did and for th $ we gave him (he’s the 17th highest paid starting LT by yearly average) made sense. The Rams needed a starter to replace Whit, there were more important players who needed to get paid (Stafford, Kupp, Donald) and our highest draft pick was in the late 3rd. What was the alternative.


The alternative was obvious to those who simply didn’t assume that the Rams do everything right or always give them the benefit of the doubt.

They needed to draft OL last year. They got it wrong, not for last years team, but for this years team. Their shortsightedness hurt them THIS YEAR. And as Trump would say, “and everybody knows it.”

 by AvengerRam
2 years 8 months ago
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Israel   Lake Mary, Florida
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max wrote:The alternative was obvious to those who simply didn’t assume that the Rams do everything right or always give them the benefit of the doubt.

They needed to draft OL last year. They got it wrong, not for last years team, but for this years team. Their shortsightedness hurt them THIS YEAR. And as Trump would say, “and everybody knows it.”

The question posed was about LT. Who was the LT they should have drafted in 2021 (or at pick 104 or later in 2022) who would have been a better option than Joe Noteboom and AJ Jackson?

 by PARAM
2 years 8 months ago
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AvengerRam wrote:The question posed was about LT. Who was the LT they should have drafted in 2021 (or at pick 104 or later in 2022) who would have been a better option than Joe Noteboom and AJ Jackson?


Maybe the question should also be 'how many OL should they have drafted high in 2021 to prevent hurting the team THIS YEAR' 2? 3?

 by ramsman34
2 years 8 months ago
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Sorry Max, what they believed they had/have in Noteboom was better than anyone they would draft in the 22 draft 3rd-7th round. Now maybe a trade could have been made. Should they have prepared for this in prior to 22 drafts? Perhaps. But again, limited capital.

And when Alaric Jackson plays really well and/or they trade for someone this year, maybe things will work out that they know what they’re doing.

 by PARAM
2 years 8 months ago
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ramsman34 wrote:Sorry Max, what they believed they had/have in Noteboom was better than anyone they would draft in the 22 draft 3rd-7th round. Now maybe a trade could have been made. Should they have prepared for this in prior to 22 drafts? Perhaps. But again, limited capital.

And when Alaric Jackson plays really well and/or they trade for someone this year, maybe things will work out that they know what they’re doing.


Good points. But doesn't last year.....Edwards from the 2019 draft at LG, Allen from the 2018 draft (who was labeled a bum) at C and winning the SB prove "they know what they're doing"? No. 'That was all Stafford'!

This year they rolled with Noteboom (who played well at LT in both 2020 (7 g) and 2021 (2 g) for the injured/covid Whitworth), Edwards, Allen, Shelton and Hav with Anchrum and Jackson as the first two 'next man up'. Every week somebody went down including Anchrum making the total 4 starters and their first sub. Unless somebody can prove they should have known who would be injured and who in the 2021 and 2022 draft would never be injured, I'm gonna call BS on the "opinion" 'they fooked up'.

All this 'they fooked up' began when they had the gall to miss the postseason in 2019 and somebody had to be blamed like Kromer, Allen and Noteboom and then continued when they had the gall to pass on Humphrey. Not even a Lombardi has changed that. :roll2:

It takes somebody with a supreme sense of self that their opinion is fact saying a staff who's been to two Superbowls, winning one doesn't know what they're doing. That's not a contrary opinion 'they can do no wrong'. It's simply seeing the results as they truly are. :idea2:

 by ramsman34
2 years 8 months ago
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Exactly PA and I was kinda parroting what Avenger said. They had already been “planning for the future” at OL while binge fully invested in SB or Bust in the present. Still are in that mode, IMO. There are only so many ways to build your team with a salary cap. Some areas you have to be a able to find “cheap help” and then develop them as quickly as possible. Losing guys like Bruss, Anchrum, Shelton, and even Boom really skew the “rating” of the OL room in totality. Frankly, before the Buffalo game I thought we were stacked with above average talent on the whole at 8-9 deep on the OL. Buffalo exposed flaws in not only OL skill against elite and extremely deep rotational D fronts, but also in scheme against said fronts. Now we are reeling and trying to marry those two areas up going forward.

I truly hope they make a trade and bring in some better interior OL talent at the deadline and that those moves are here more than a rental year.

In lieu of that, they have to get guys back in the off season, continue to develop, and find more mid-late round diamonds in the rough in the 23 draft.

Can’t have it both ways. If we found a way to use picks to build an elite line, we would have suffered at out positions that are simply more important; QB, WR, corner, edge.

Dallas had that awesome OL and never did shit with it. Now they have fortified the key positions, there OL isn’t quite as good, and they are a playoff team.

I thinks it’s pretty lame to shit on the Rams for their methodology when they have had a winning season every year this regime and “system” has been in place. Been in the playoffs every year but 1, been to 2 Super Bowls and won one.

I like the status quo. And we will be fine going forward until we start losing our HOF players: unless we replace them like for like.

 by Elvis
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   Los Angeles
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The Rams went in to the season with Noteboom, Anchrum and Jackson. Two of them are out for the year. Shouldn't we wait and see how Jackson does before declaring him a failure?

 by PARAM
2 years 8 months ago
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Elvis wrote:The Rams went in to the season with Noteboom, Anchrum and Jackson. Two of them are out for the year. Shouldn't we wait and see how Jackson does before declaring him a failure?


Sure. Seems reasonable. Problems starting halfway through week 1 on the OL, compounded by VJ being out, ARob not in sync with #9 and Akers not playing well. Now we're getting Allen and VJ back while ARob is looking better not to mention the rookie RB is almost back. There will always be some who want to claim the season is shot before the halfway point. Happened some last year and that turned out okay.

 by Elvis
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   Los Angeles
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I forgot. We also have Ty Nsekhe now...

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