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 by Gareth
9 years 7 months ago
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 Joined:  Mar 30 2015
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Pro Bowl

Hacksaw wrote:
Dick84 wrote:I'd go for Keenum first in hopes of saving the season.
Without much tape.. it takes teams a few weeks to catch up to his limitations.. in the meantime.. he can make something happen with his feet and improvisation.. Foles can't.
I think it would actually be bad for Mannion to be put in right now.

I completely agree with this post. Sean Mannion might be our future, might not,, but under the circumstances he either thrives or flounders,, with the latter being a career and confidence killer..

Rookies play immediately in the NFL frequently these days. If the hesitation is about Fisher and his putrid offense then that is just another sign he's a lousy coach in today's NFL.

 by moklerman
9 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   7680  
 Joined:  Apr 17 2015
United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
Hall of Fame

Dick84 wrote:
Dick84 wrote:I'd go for Keenum first in hopes of saving the season.
Without much tape.. it takes teams a few weeks to catch up to his limitations.. in the meantime.. he can make something happen with his feet and improvisation.. Foles can't.
I think it would actually be bad for Mannion to be put in right now.


Man, I'm good.
Thinking like Fisher isn't the highest of praise. ;)

 by dieterbrock
9 years 7 months ago
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 Joined:  Mar 31 2015
United States of America   New Jersey
Hall of Fame

Gareth wrote:
Hacksaw wrote:
Dick84 wrote:I'd go for Keenum first in hopes of saving the season.
Without much tape.. it takes teams a few weeks to catch up to his limitations.. in the meantime.. he can make something happen with his feet and improvisation.. Foles can't.
I think it would actually be bad for Mannion to be put in right now.

I completely agree with this post. Sean Mannion might be our future, might not,, but under the circumstances he either thrives or flounders,, with the latter being a career and confidence killer..

Rookies play immediately in the NFL frequently these days. If the hesitation is about Fisher and his putrid offense then that is just another sign he's a lousy coach in today's NFL.

While rookies playing immediately may be true, they typically do not coming from the #3 hole. If Mannion was going to get PT this season he'd have to suit up as the #2 QB.
The fair arguement may be why draft a kid to have him waste a roster spot on the 53. Fisher typically carried only 2 QB.
A buddy of mine has a low level job with the Jets and since I was a big Bryce Petty fan I asked if he'd get a chance to play. He basically said that as the #3 guy he gets no snaps, that unless the #3 is a veteran, teams basically sit those guys.
So yeah, count me in the crowd that says its a disservice to play Mannion at this point unless one of the other 2 gets hurt and he moves up the ranks.
With this disaster of a line, you put Mannion back there with a rookie QB like that? I would hope Gurley was on the shelf because that would get him killed for sure

 by Hacksaw
9 years 7 months ago
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 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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Gareth wrote:
Hacksaw wrote:
Dick84 wrote:I'd go for Keenum first in hopes of saving the season.
Without much tape.. it takes teams a few weeks to catch up to his limitations.. in the meantime.. he can make something happen with his feet and improvisation.. Foles can't.
I think it would actually be bad for Mannion to be put in right now.

I completely agree with this post. Sean Mannion might be our future, might not,, but under the circumstances he either thrives or flounders,, with the latter being a career and confidence killer..

Rookies play immediately in the NFL frequently these days. If the hesitation is about Fisher and his putrid offense then that is just another sign he's a lousy coach in today's NFL.

I get you don't like Fisher bro but Mannion isn't ready Other rookies are all franchise type guys. Look at Manziel and he's on the fence. Mannion is no Mariotta.
If he suddenly becomes special that would be on the coaches. But not putting him or not putting him into his offense likely has nothing to do with the line or crappy offense. No offense.
I'd like to see the kid be a star for us, but he should get the proper opportunity. imo

 by Gareth
9 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   1241  
 Joined:  Mar 30 2015
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Pro Bowl

Hacksaw wrote:
Gareth wrote:
Hacksaw wrote:I completely agree with this post. Sean Mannion might be our future, might not,, but under the circumstances he either thrives or flounders,, with the latter being a career and confidence killer..

Rookies play immediately in the NFL frequently these days. If the hesitation is about Fisher and his putrid offense then that is just another sign he's a lousy coach in today's NFL.

I get you don't like Fisher bro but Mannion isn't ready Other rookies are all franchise type guys. Look at Manziel and he's on the fence. Mannion is no Mariotta.
If he suddenly becomes special that would be on the coaches. But not putting him or not putting him into his offense likely has nothing to do with the line or crappy offense. No offense.
I'd like to see the kid be a star for us, but he should get the proper opportunity. imo



At this point, as Ram fans, I'm not sure why anybody would like Fisher.

I assume Manion is number two this week. Since, like you say this line is so awful, Keenum will likely get hurt and Manion will play anyway. So is it still unfair to subject him to that situation?
Going by your logic they better hurry up and find another vet so Manion doesn't have to see the field.

My point of view is that if they spend a reasonably high draft choice on the guy, use him.

And if the situation is so bad that they just can't put him on the field, that is a complete indictment of Fisher and you have to get rid of him.

 by Elvis
9 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   Los Angeles
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I'm pretty sure Foles will be #2 and Manion will be inactive.

They really don't think Manion is ready and once the season starts your 3rd string QB gets pretty much no reps.

I'm also sure Fisher hasn't given up on the season yet so he's not gonna go to Manion...

 by Gareth
9 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   1241  
 Joined:  Mar 30 2015
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Pro Bowl

Doh!

Of course Foles will be number two. Brain lapse there.

I think it's probably a waste for Fisher to spend a decent draft choice on a quarterback.

 by Elvis
9 years 7 months ago
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 Joined:  Mar 28 2015
United States of America   Los Angeles
Administrator

IMO, It's a waste to even talk about the QB on a Jeff Fisher team. Except in the extreme (say Brett Favre vs. Austin Davis) it just doesn't matter who the QB is on the Rams.

Though i do hope to be proved wrong on Sunday.

As i said a lot before the season started: Take Bradford, Sanchez and Foles, start one for the Rams and one for the Eagles, doesn't matter what combination you use, the Eagles QB will have the better season...

 by Hacksaw
9 years 7 months ago
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 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
Moderator

Gareth wrote:
Hacksaw wrote:
Gareth wrote:Rookies play immediately in the NFL frequently these days. If the hesitation is about Fisher and his putrid offense then that is just another sign he's a lousy coach in today's NFL.

I get you don't like Fisher bro but Mannion isn't ready Other rookies are all franchise type guys. Look at Manziel and he's on the fence. Mannion is no Mariotta.
If he suddenly becomes special that would be on the coaches. But not putting him or not putting him into his offense likely has nothing to do with the line or crappy offense. No offense.
I'd like to see the kid be a star for us, but he should get the proper opportunity. imo



At this point, as Ram fans, I'm not sure why anybody would like Fisher.

I assume Manion is number two this week. Since, like you say this line is so awful, Keenum will likely get hurt and Manion will play anyway. So is it still unfair to subject him to that situation?
Going by your logic they better hurry up and find another vet so Manion doesn't have to see the field.

My point of view is that if they spend a reasonably high draft choice on the guy, use him.

And if the situation is so bad that they just can't put him on the field, that is a complete indictment of Fisher and you have to get rid of him.

Gareth, the Rams obviously feel the team stands a better chance with Keenum. Everything else is irrelevant. If Mannion's number get's called it will be for a reason like Keenum went down or he sucks, or Mannion looks better in practice. However I doubt Mannion will be 2 on the depth chart ahead of NF anyway.
How many rookies actually do start their first season compared to those who are drafted and don't?

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