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 by R4L
6 years 11 months ago
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 Joined:  May 08 2017
United States of America   Dayton, Ohio
Pro Bowl

/zn/ wrote:I respectfully disagree with almost all of that.

1. qb money in 2018 is 28 M (ie. for 2nd contracts) and no one suggests he is asking for that. He's probably in line for something more like 23-24 M and that stopped being qb money after 2015. So if he gets 23 M, that will be just a little more than what qbs got on 2nd contracts in 2015. There is no real reason to NOT pay an elite defender what qbs were getting 4 contract years ago. Wait till Goff signs when the average money on starting qb 2nd contracts will be 30-something M. I think the whole "paid like a qb" stuff when reporters use it is more smoke than light.

2. How do you know the issue is him needing so much or the Rams not coming through giving him fair market value? Truth is, until we get more real info, no one really knows if the issue is the Rams, Donald, both, or if in fact there's no problem and they're getting there.

3. The tag amount is a lowball compared to his market worth. (The tag would be around 15 M and discussions of his worth I've seen range from 21 to 24 M). Given that , if he gets tagged to me it's likely he sits out and asks to be traded. As I understand it, if the Rams have a tag on him, even if he doesn't sign it, it counts against the cap. Star players who demand to be traded tend to get traded. It's either that or the Rams have no Donald, he counts against the cap, and they're getting nothing for him unless they trade him.

4. He may be the highest paid defender when he signs but that won't last long. There's going to be a day in the near future when Donald will be eclipsed a few times over. Anyway what am I comfortable with? 23-24 M with 80 M guaranteed. If it;s a bit more I have no complaints.


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Really? I haven't heard that before lol. But you should really put 1 and 3 as your sig and save a lot of writing time. :lol2:

 by Ramsdude
6 years 11 months ago
 Total posts:   1071  
 Joined:  May 22 2018
United States of America   Pa.
Pro Bowl

R4L wrote:Really? I haven't heard that before lol. But you should really put 1 and 3 as your sig and save a lot of writing time. :lol2:


roflmao. Great advice my brother!!

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 by dieterbrock
6 years 11 months ago
 Total posts:   11512  
 Joined:  Mar 31 2015
United States of America   New Jersey
Hall of Fame

Its amazing to me how some seem to "want" Donald to be some sort of villain here.
The media, the writers, the fans etc have literally NO IDEA of what the Rams have discussed with Donald.
We know what contract Bell turned down, but personally, I wont cast aspersions on AD or the Rams until we know the same

Glad to see them sign Cooks and Gurley though, which is independent of the AD situation

 by St. Loser Fan
6 years 11 months ago
 Total posts:   10886  
 Joined:  May 31 2016
United States of America   Saint Louis MO
Hall of Fame

dieterbrock wrote:Its amazing to me how some seem to "want" Donald to be some sort of villain here.
The media, the writers, the fans etc have literally NO IDEA of what the Rams have discussed with Donald.
We know what contract Bell turned down, but personally, I wont cast aspersions on AD or the Rams until we know the same


Not throwing this out there as a "gotcha!". If this offer and the reply from the agent is true, are you okay with just a little villain talk?


 by R4L
6 years 11 months ago
 Total posts:   1301  
 Joined:  May 08 2017
United States of America   Dayton, Ohio
Pro Bowl

St. Loser Fan wrote:Not throwing this out there as a "gotcha!". If this offer and the reply from the agent is true, are you okay with just a little villain talk?



Thanks for sharing. Finally a number. I guess this guy doesn't know what QB money is :roll2:

 by St. Loser Fan
6 years 11 months ago
 Total posts:   10886  
 Joined:  May 31 2016
United States of America   Saint Louis MO
Hall of Fame

R4L wrote:Thanks for sharing. Finally a number. I guess this guy doesn't know what QB money is :roll2:


Am I missing something? From last September:
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/quarterback ... id-players

Joe Flacco, Baltimore, $24.55 million
Carson Palmer, Arizona, $24.125 million
Kirk Cousins, Washington, $23.943 million
Matt Ryan, Atlanta, $23.75 million
Matthew Stafford, Detroit, $22 million
Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay, $20.3 million
Cam Newton, Carolina, $20.166 million
Philip Rivers, Los Angeles Chargers, $20 million
Eli Manning, N.Y. Giants, $19.7 million
Andrew Luck, Indianapolis, $19.4 million
Drew Brees, New Orleans, $19 million
Russell Wilson, Seattle, $18.8 million
Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh, $18.2 million
Sam Bradford, Minnesota, $18 million
Alex Smith, Kansas City, $16.9 million
Derek Carr, Oakland, $15.7 million
Andy Dalton, Cincinnati, $15.7 million
Tom Brady, New England, $14 million
Mike Glennon, Chicago, $14 million
Jay Cutler, Miami, $10 million
Tyrod Taylor, Buffalo, $9.7 million
Jameis Winston, Tampa Bay, $6.9 million
Marcus Mariota, Tennessee, $6.6 million
Blake Bortles, Jacksonville, $6.57 million
Josh McCown, N.Y. Jets, $6.5 million
Jared Goff, L.A. Rams, $6.4 million
Carson Wentz, Philadelphia, $6 million
Brian Hoyer, San Francisco, $5.3 million
DeShone Kizer, Cleveland, $899,711
Tom Savage, Houston, $765,146
Dak Prescott, Dallas, $635,848
Trever Siemian, Denver, $628,196

 by dieterbrock
6 years 11 months ago
 Total posts:   11512  
 Joined:  Mar 31 2015
United States of America   New Jersey
Hall of Fame

St. Loser Fan wrote:Not throwing this out there as a "gotcha!". If this offer and the reply from the agent is true, are you okay with just a little villain talk?


I'll wait on confirmation from a legit source
Who the heck is Eric Geller??

 by St. Loser Fan
6 years 11 months ago
 Total posts:   10886  
 Joined:  May 31 2016
United States of America   Saint Louis MO
Hall of Fame

This is just one freelance guy claiming the numbers and the "insulted" claim, so we need to slow down a bit. I'd like to hear verification from others.

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