by OldSchool 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #21 That's the million dollar question Den, who else would they get to lead the team. I can't think of anybody out there available right now that would be any better so would we go with the hot coordinator? Move to LA and try to hire Mora away from UCLA? He's pretty much running the football town now. by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #22 If LA becomes a rality, I can see a number of HC's grinning wryly about the possibility of coaching the Los Angeles Rams. Who's contracts are up? To the previous point, parity lives. Things change. Teams change. Seasons change teams. The Rams are not currently dominant. They have the stuff to become dominant. I think I'll keep the faith until more evidence is available. How ever it is going to work out, it's all good, as long as the Los Angeles Rams are restored. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by TSFH Fan 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #23 I bought into Jim Mora after the Nick Pasquale tragedy. I thought he handled the team, media, and the family expertly. The team was getting blasted by Nebraska, he didn't scream and yell, and realized the problem was that everyone was trying to do too much. He got everyone calmed down at the half, the team roared back for a big win on the road. I wouldn't want to see him with Rams because I want to see him stay at UCLA. TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by moklerman 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #24 Mike Martz is available and lives in SD. Even if he doesn't turn the team into a Super Bowl winner, he'd at least make it entertaining to watch. by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #25 moklerman wrote:Mike Martz is available and lives in SD. Even if he doesn't turn the team into a Super Bowl winner, he'd at least make it entertaining to watch.I 2nd this emotion GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by bluecoconuts 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 273 Joined: Aug 29 2015 LA Coliseum Rookie Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #26 Fisher reminds me of Terry Murray, the old Kings coach. He was a long time coach that hovered around .500, then came in and took a young team, taught them how to play a strong defensive game, and get the basics down... Then they brought in Sutter to get them to attack on offense and control the flow of the game... Boom, three consecutive conference finals and two cups.I think that Kroenke will keep Fisher around because he'll be good for the team if they move, he's been there before... Plus being an LA native helps as well. Eventually Fisher will be replaced (probably 2 or 3 years if they do move, possibly sooner if they don't) by a different coach who will likely have them attack more. Unless they become a strong playoff team, then he'll stay. by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #27 Fisher HC, Martz OC, Williams DC. Could this work? Could Fish give MM enough rope? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 41498 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #28 I'd love to have Martz back with the Rams in pretty much any capacity from HC to some kind of offensive consultant. But hard to see that happening.If the Rams don't pull it together this year and fire Fisher, i like TSFH's idea of Sean Payton. I like Adam Gase, especially if he does well in Chicago this year as OC. (And Gase is someone i could see having Martz on his staff.)I hated Mora Jr. as an NFL HC, love him as UCLA HC and wouldn't want him as Rams HC. But maybe he'd be good 2nd time around. Still i don't see him as a good strategist, as a good X's and O's guy and that's something i like in a HC.Of course my opinions are only right about half the time.. RFU Season Ticket Holder by Rams the Legends live on 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #29 Hacksaw wrote:Fisher HC, Martz OC, Williams DC. Could this work? Could Fish give MM enough rope?I think the only reason I could not back Fish as HC and Martz as OC. As to do so would be a admission Fish is the better coach and I don't believe that is the case. While the NFL might have figured out the GSOT. Fact is Martz innovated some x's and o's that had to be countered he figured out how to make a teams defense a mismatch for his offense. This past week we once again saw how Fish and his philosophy can be countered by the most basic of offense such as the Skins just establishing and running on as at will. Which we do have what could be called a elite defense in many circles yet Fish again and in times before has been shut down by teams using the same basic x's and o's on him he preaches as his philosophy.So while Martz did not have the tenure Fish has when ya look at their body of work clearly Martz looks like he is the innovative of the 2 and in my opinion I believe firmly if ya have enough creativity to innovate once ya should still have that same creativity to once again look at the big picture and see a innovation ya can come up with again.So in my opinion Fish is not good enough in a Fish compared to Martz analysis to come away with Fish as the head coach and Martz as the subordinate. by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #30 I always felt that Mike Martz was one of the best OC's in the game. But in typical Rams fashion, Dick Vermiel retires (only to return a year later across the state) and the team promotes the guy from a position he dominated, to a position he was only OK at. His use of timeouts and the inability to "Fix it" became more obvious and his thing with Warner kind of put me off on him. The rest of the game going on distracted MM from what he did best. Pick apart defenses. He needed a team leader like DV.I can see Fish being in that role of team manager as long as he would take the governor off the O by letting MM do what he does best. Then Fish and Williams can do what they do best. JMO GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 3 / 10 1 3 10 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 96 posts Jul 01 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #22 If LA becomes a rality, I can see a number of HC's grinning wryly about the possibility of coaching the Los Angeles Rams. Who's contracts are up? To the previous point, parity lives. Things change. Teams change. Seasons change teams. The Rams are not currently dominant. They have the stuff to become dominant. I think I'll keep the faith until more evidence is available. How ever it is going to work out, it's all good, as long as the Los Angeles Rams are restored. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by TSFH Fan 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #23 I bought into Jim Mora after the Nick Pasquale tragedy. I thought he handled the team, media, and the family expertly. The team was getting blasted by Nebraska, he didn't scream and yell, and realized the problem was that everyone was trying to do too much. He got everyone calmed down at the half, the team roared back for a big win on the road. I wouldn't want to see him with Rams because I want to see him stay at UCLA. TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by moklerman 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #24 Mike Martz is available and lives in SD. Even if he doesn't turn the team into a Super Bowl winner, he'd at least make it entertaining to watch. by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #25 moklerman wrote:Mike Martz is available and lives in SD. Even if he doesn't turn the team into a Super Bowl winner, he'd at least make it entertaining to watch.I 2nd this emotion GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by bluecoconuts 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 273 Joined: Aug 29 2015 LA Coliseum Rookie Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #26 Fisher reminds me of Terry Murray, the old Kings coach. He was a long time coach that hovered around .500, then came in and took a young team, taught them how to play a strong defensive game, and get the basics down... Then they brought in Sutter to get them to attack on offense and control the flow of the game... Boom, three consecutive conference finals and two cups.I think that Kroenke will keep Fisher around because he'll be good for the team if they move, he's been there before... Plus being an LA native helps as well. Eventually Fisher will be replaced (probably 2 or 3 years if they do move, possibly sooner if they don't) by a different coach who will likely have them attack more. Unless they become a strong playoff team, then he'll stay. by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #27 Fisher HC, Martz OC, Williams DC. Could this work? Could Fish give MM enough rope? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 41498 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #28 I'd love to have Martz back with the Rams in pretty much any capacity from HC to some kind of offensive consultant. But hard to see that happening.If the Rams don't pull it together this year and fire Fisher, i like TSFH's idea of Sean Payton. I like Adam Gase, especially if he does well in Chicago this year as OC. (And Gase is someone i could see having Martz on his staff.)I hated Mora Jr. as an NFL HC, love him as UCLA HC and wouldn't want him as Rams HC. But maybe he'd be good 2nd time around. Still i don't see him as a good strategist, as a good X's and O's guy and that's something i like in a HC.Of course my opinions are only right about half the time.. RFU Season Ticket Holder by Rams the Legends live on 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #29 Hacksaw wrote:Fisher HC, Martz OC, Williams DC. Could this work? Could Fish give MM enough rope?I think the only reason I could not back Fish as HC and Martz as OC. As to do so would be a admission Fish is the better coach and I don't believe that is the case. While the NFL might have figured out the GSOT. Fact is Martz innovated some x's and o's that had to be countered he figured out how to make a teams defense a mismatch for his offense. This past week we once again saw how Fish and his philosophy can be countered by the most basic of offense such as the Skins just establishing and running on as at will. Which we do have what could be called a elite defense in many circles yet Fish again and in times before has been shut down by teams using the same basic x's and o's on him he preaches as his philosophy.So while Martz did not have the tenure Fish has when ya look at their body of work clearly Martz looks like he is the innovative of the 2 and in my opinion I believe firmly if ya have enough creativity to innovate once ya should still have that same creativity to once again look at the big picture and see a innovation ya can come up with again.So in my opinion Fish is not good enough in a Fish compared to Martz analysis to come away with Fish as the head coach and Martz as the subordinate. by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #30 I always felt that Mike Martz was one of the best OC's in the game. But in typical Rams fashion, Dick Vermiel retires (only to return a year later across the state) and the team promotes the guy from a position he dominated, to a position he was only OK at. His use of timeouts and the inability to "Fix it" became more obvious and his thing with Warner kind of put me off on him. The rest of the game going on distracted MM from what he did best. Pick apart defenses. He needed a team leader like DV.I can see Fish being in that role of team manager as long as he would take the governor off the O by letting MM do what he does best. Then Fish and Williams can do what they do best. JMO GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 3 / 10 1 3 10 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 96 posts Jul 01 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by TSFH Fan 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #23 I bought into Jim Mora after the Nick Pasquale tragedy. I thought he handled the team, media, and the family expertly. The team was getting blasted by Nebraska, he didn't scream and yell, and realized the problem was that everyone was trying to do too much. He got everyone calmed down at the half, the team roared back for a big win on the road. I wouldn't want to see him with Rams because I want to see him stay at UCLA. TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by moklerman 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #24 Mike Martz is available and lives in SD. Even if he doesn't turn the team into a Super Bowl winner, he'd at least make it entertaining to watch. by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #25 moklerman wrote:Mike Martz is available and lives in SD. Even if he doesn't turn the team into a Super Bowl winner, he'd at least make it entertaining to watch.I 2nd this emotion GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by bluecoconuts 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 273 Joined: Aug 29 2015 LA Coliseum Rookie Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #26 Fisher reminds me of Terry Murray, the old Kings coach. He was a long time coach that hovered around .500, then came in and took a young team, taught them how to play a strong defensive game, and get the basics down... Then they brought in Sutter to get them to attack on offense and control the flow of the game... Boom, three consecutive conference finals and two cups.I think that Kroenke will keep Fisher around because he'll be good for the team if they move, he's been there before... Plus being an LA native helps as well. Eventually Fisher will be replaced (probably 2 or 3 years if they do move, possibly sooner if they don't) by a different coach who will likely have them attack more. Unless they become a strong playoff team, then he'll stay. by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #27 Fisher HC, Martz OC, Williams DC. Could this work? Could Fish give MM enough rope? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 41498 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #28 I'd love to have Martz back with the Rams in pretty much any capacity from HC to some kind of offensive consultant. But hard to see that happening.If the Rams don't pull it together this year and fire Fisher, i like TSFH's idea of Sean Payton. I like Adam Gase, especially if he does well in Chicago this year as OC. (And Gase is someone i could see having Martz on his staff.)I hated Mora Jr. as an NFL HC, love him as UCLA HC and wouldn't want him as Rams HC. But maybe he'd be good 2nd time around. Still i don't see him as a good strategist, as a good X's and O's guy and that's something i like in a HC.Of course my opinions are only right about half the time.. RFU Season Ticket Holder by Rams the Legends live on 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #29 Hacksaw wrote:Fisher HC, Martz OC, Williams DC. Could this work? Could Fish give MM enough rope?I think the only reason I could not back Fish as HC and Martz as OC. As to do so would be a admission Fish is the better coach and I don't believe that is the case. While the NFL might have figured out the GSOT. Fact is Martz innovated some x's and o's that had to be countered he figured out how to make a teams defense a mismatch for his offense. This past week we once again saw how Fish and his philosophy can be countered by the most basic of offense such as the Skins just establishing and running on as at will. Which we do have what could be called a elite defense in many circles yet Fish again and in times before has been shut down by teams using the same basic x's and o's on him he preaches as his philosophy.So while Martz did not have the tenure Fish has when ya look at their body of work clearly Martz looks like he is the innovative of the 2 and in my opinion I believe firmly if ya have enough creativity to innovate once ya should still have that same creativity to once again look at the big picture and see a innovation ya can come up with again.So in my opinion Fish is not good enough in a Fish compared to Martz analysis to come away with Fish as the head coach and Martz as the subordinate. by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #30 I always felt that Mike Martz was one of the best OC's in the game. But in typical Rams fashion, Dick Vermiel retires (only to return a year later across the state) and the team promotes the guy from a position he dominated, to a position he was only OK at. His use of timeouts and the inability to "Fix it" became more obvious and his thing with Warner kind of put me off on him. The rest of the game going on distracted MM from what he did best. Pick apart defenses. He needed a team leader like DV.I can see Fish being in that role of team manager as long as he would take the governor off the O by letting MM do what he does best. Then Fish and Williams can do what they do best. JMO GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 3 / 10 1 3 10 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 96 posts Jul 01 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by moklerman 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #24 Mike Martz is available and lives in SD. Even if he doesn't turn the team into a Super Bowl winner, he'd at least make it entertaining to watch. by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #25 moklerman wrote:Mike Martz is available and lives in SD. Even if he doesn't turn the team into a Super Bowl winner, he'd at least make it entertaining to watch.I 2nd this emotion GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by bluecoconuts 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 273 Joined: Aug 29 2015 LA Coliseum Rookie Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #26 Fisher reminds me of Terry Murray, the old Kings coach. He was a long time coach that hovered around .500, then came in and took a young team, taught them how to play a strong defensive game, and get the basics down... Then they brought in Sutter to get them to attack on offense and control the flow of the game... Boom, three consecutive conference finals and two cups.I think that Kroenke will keep Fisher around because he'll be good for the team if they move, he's been there before... Plus being an LA native helps as well. Eventually Fisher will be replaced (probably 2 or 3 years if they do move, possibly sooner if they don't) by a different coach who will likely have them attack more. Unless they become a strong playoff team, then he'll stay. by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #27 Fisher HC, Martz OC, Williams DC. Could this work? Could Fish give MM enough rope? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 41498 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #28 I'd love to have Martz back with the Rams in pretty much any capacity from HC to some kind of offensive consultant. But hard to see that happening.If the Rams don't pull it together this year and fire Fisher, i like TSFH's idea of Sean Payton. I like Adam Gase, especially if he does well in Chicago this year as OC. (And Gase is someone i could see having Martz on his staff.)I hated Mora Jr. as an NFL HC, love him as UCLA HC and wouldn't want him as Rams HC. But maybe he'd be good 2nd time around. Still i don't see him as a good strategist, as a good X's and O's guy and that's something i like in a HC.Of course my opinions are only right about half the time.. RFU Season Ticket Holder by Rams the Legends live on 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #29 Hacksaw wrote:Fisher HC, Martz OC, Williams DC. Could this work? Could Fish give MM enough rope?I think the only reason I could not back Fish as HC and Martz as OC. As to do so would be a admission Fish is the better coach and I don't believe that is the case. While the NFL might have figured out the GSOT. Fact is Martz innovated some x's and o's that had to be countered he figured out how to make a teams defense a mismatch for his offense. This past week we once again saw how Fish and his philosophy can be countered by the most basic of offense such as the Skins just establishing and running on as at will. Which we do have what could be called a elite defense in many circles yet Fish again and in times before has been shut down by teams using the same basic x's and o's on him he preaches as his philosophy.So while Martz did not have the tenure Fish has when ya look at their body of work clearly Martz looks like he is the innovative of the 2 and in my opinion I believe firmly if ya have enough creativity to innovate once ya should still have that same creativity to once again look at the big picture and see a innovation ya can come up with again.So in my opinion Fish is not good enough in a Fish compared to Martz analysis to come away with Fish as the head coach and Martz as the subordinate. by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #30 I always felt that Mike Martz was one of the best OC's in the game. But in typical Rams fashion, Dick Vermiel retires (only to return a year later across the state) and the team promotes the guy from a position he dominated, to a position he was only OK at. His use of timeouts and the inability to "Fix it" became more obvious and his thing with Warner kind of put me off on him. The rest of the game going on distracted MM from what he did best. Pick apart defenses. He needed a team leader like DV.I can see Fish being in that role of team manager as long as he would take the governor off the O by letting MM do what he does best. Then Fish and Williams can do what they do best. JMO GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 3 / 10 1 3 10 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 96 posts Jul 01 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #25 moklerman wrote:Mike Martz is available and lives in SD. Even if he doesn't turn the team into a Super Bowl winner, he'd at least make it entertaining to watch.I 2nd this emotion GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by bluecoconuts 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 273 Joined: Aug 29 2015 LA Coliseum Rookie Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #26 Fisher reminds me of Terry Murray, the old Kings coach. He was a long time coach that hovered around .500, then came in and took a young team, taught them how to play a strong defensive game, and get the basics down... Then they brought in Sutter to get them to attack on offense and control the flow of the game... Boom, three consecutive conference finals and two cups.I think that Kroenke will keep Fisher around because he'll be good for the team if they move, he's been there before... Plus being an LA native helps as well. Eventually Fisher will be replaced (probably 2 or 3 years if they do move, possibly sooner if they don't) by a different coach who will likely have them attack more. Unless they become a strong playoff team, then he'll stay. by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #27 Fisher HC, Martz OC, Williams DC. Could this work? Could Fish give MM enough rope? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 41498 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #28 I'd love to have Martz back with the Rams in pretty much any capacity from HC to some kind of offensive consultant. But hard to see that happening.If the Rams don't pull it together this year and fire Fisher, i like TSFH's idea of Sean Payton. I like Adam Gase, especially if he does well in Chicago this year as OC. (And Gase is someone i could see having Martz on his staff.)I hated Mora Jr. as an NFL HC, love him as UCLA HC and wouldn't want him as Rams HC. But maybe he'd be good 2nd time around. Still i don't see him as a good strategist, as a good X's and O's guy and that's something i like in a HC.Of course my opinions are only right about half the time.. RFU Season Ticket Holder by Rams the Legends live on 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #29 Hacksaw wrote:Fisher HC, Martz OC, Williams DC. Could this work? Could Fish give MM enough rope?I think the only reason I could not back Fish as HC and Martz as OC. As to do so would be a admission Fish is the better coach and I don't believe that is the case. While the NFL might have figured out the GSOT. Fact is Martz innovated some x's and o's that had to be countered he figured out how to make a teams defense a mismatch for his offense. This past week we once again saw how Fish and his philosophy can be countered by the most basic of offense such as the Skins just establishing and running on as at will. Which we do have what could be called a elite defense in many circles yet Fish again and in times before has been shut down by teams using the same basic x's and o's on him he preaches as his philosophy.So while Martz did not have the tenure Fish has when ya look at their body of work clearly Martz looks like he is the innovative of the 2 and in my opinion I believe firmly if ya have enough creativity to innovate once ya should still have that same creativity to once again look at the big picture and see a innovation ya can come up with again.So in my opinion Fish is not good enough in a Fish compared to Martz analysis to come away with Fish as the head coach and Martz as the subordinate. by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #30 I always felt that Mike Martz was one of the best OC's in the game. But in typical Rams fashion, Dick Vermiel retires (only to return a year later across the state) and the team promotes the guy from a position he dominated, to a position he was only OK at. His use of timeouts and the inability to "Fix it" became more obvious and his thing with Warner kind of put me off on him. The rest of the game going on distracted MM from what he did best. Pick apart defenses. He needed a team leader like DV.I can see Fish being in that role of team manager as long as he would take the governor off the O by letting MM do what he does best. Then Fish and Williams can do what they do best. JMO GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 3 / 10 1 3 10 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 96 posts Jul 01 2025
by bluecoconuts 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 273 Joined: Aug 29 2015 LA Coliseum Rookie Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #26 Fisher reminds me of Terry Murray, the old Kings coach. He was a long time coach that hovered around .500, then came in and took a young team, taught them how to play a strong defensive game, and get the basics down... Then they brought in Sutter to get them to attack on offense and control the flow of the game... Boom, three consecutive conference finals and two cups.I think that Kroenke will keep Fisher around because he'll be good for the team if they move, he's been there before... Plus being an LA native helps as well. Eventually Fisher will be replaced (probably 2 or 3 years if they do move, possibly sooner if they don't) by a different coach who will likely have them attack more. Unless they become a strong playoff team, then he'll stay. by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #27 Fisher HC, Martz OC, Williams DC. Could this work? Could Fish give MM enough rope? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 41498 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #28 I'd love to have Martz back with the Rams in pretty much any capacity from HC to some kind of offensive consultant. But hard to see that happening.If the Rams don't pull it together this year and fire Fisher, i like TSFH's idea of Sean Payton. I like Adam Gase, especially if he does well in Chicago this year as OC. (And Gase is someone i could see having Martz on his staff.)I hated Mora Jr. as an NFL HC, love him as UCLA HC and wouldn't want him as Rams HC. But maybe he'd be good 2nd time around. Still i don't see him as a good strategist, as a good X's and O's guy and that's something i like in a HC.Of course my opinions are only right about half the time.. RFU Season Ticket Holder by Rams the Legends live on 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #29 Hacksaw wrote:Fisher HC, Martz OC, Williams DC. Could this work? Could Fish give MM enough rope?I think the only reason I could not back Fish as HC and Martz as OC. As to do so would be a admission Fish is the better coach and I don't believe that is the case. While the NFL might have figured out the GSOT. Fact is Martz innovated some x's and o's that had to be countered he figured out how to make a teams defense a mismatch for his offense. This past week we once again saw how Fish and his philosophy can be countered by the most basic of offense such as the Skins just establishing and running on as at will. Which we do have what could be called a elite defense in many circles yet Fish again and in times before has been shut down by teams using the same basic x's and o's on him he preaches as his philosophy.So while Martz did not have the tenure Fish has when ya look at their body of work clearly Martz looks like he is the innovative of the 2 and in my opinion I believe firmly if ya have enough creativity to innovate once ya should still have that same creativity to once again look at the big picture and see a innovation ya can come up with again.So in my opinion Fish is not good enough in a Fish compared to Martz analysis to come away with Fish as the head coach and Martz as the subordinate. by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #30 I always felt that Mike Martz was one of the best OC's in the game. But in typical Rams fashion, Dick Vermiel retires (only to return a year later across the state) and the team promotes the guy from a position he dominated, to a position he was only OK at. His use of timeouts and the inability to "Fix it" became more obvious and his thing with Warner kind of put me off on him. The rest of the game going on distracted MM from what he did best. Pick apart defenses. He needed a team leader like DV.I can see Fish being in that role of team manager as long as he would take the governor off the O by letting MM do what he does best. Then Fish and Williams can do what they do best. JMO GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 3 / 10 1 3 10 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 96 posts Jul 01 2025
by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #27 Fisher HC, Martz OC, Williams DC. Could this work? Could Fish give MM enough rope? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 41498 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #28 I'd love to have Martz back with the Rams in pretty much any capacity from HC to some kind of offensive consultant. But hard to see that happening.If the Rams don't pull it together this year and fire Fisher, i like TSFH's idea of Sean Payton. I like Adam Gase, especially if he does well in Chicago this year as OC. (And Gase is someone i could see having Martz on his staff.)I hated Mora Jr. as an NFL HC, love him as UCLA HC and wouldn't want him as Rams HC. But maybe he'd be good 2nd time around. Still i don't see him as a good strategist, as a good X's and O's guy and that's something i like in a HC.Of course my opinions are only right about half the time.. RFU Season Ticket Holder by Rams the Legends live on 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #29 Hacksaw wrote:Fisher HC, Martz OC, Williams DC. Could this work? Could Fish give MM enough rope?I think the only reason I could not back Fish as HC and Martz as OC. As to do so would be a admission Fish is the better coach and I don't believe that is the case. While the NFL might have figured out the GSOT. Fact is Martz innovated some x's and o's that had to be countered he figured out how to make a teams defense a mismatch for his offense. This past week we once again saw how Fish and his philosophy can be countered by the most basic of offense such as the Skins just establishing and running on as at will. Which we do have what could be called a elite defense in many circles yet Fish again and in times before has been shut down by teams using the same basic x's and o's on him he preaches as his philosophy.So while Martz did not have the tenure Fish has when ya look at their body of work clearly Martz looks like he is the innovative of the 2 and in my opinion I believe firmly if ya have enough creativity to innovate once ya should still have that same creativity to once again look at the big picture and see a innovation ya can come up with again.So in my opinion Fish is not good enough in a Fish compared to Martz analysis to come away with Fish as the head coach and Martz as the subordinate. by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #30 I always felt that Mike Martz was one of the best OC's in the game. But in typical Rams fashion, Dick Vermiel retires (only to return a year later across the state) and the team promotes the guy from a position he dominated, to a position he was only OK at. His use of timeouts and the inability to "Fix it" became more obvious and his thing with Warner kind of put me off on him. The rest of the game going on distracted MM from what he did best. Pick apart defenses. He needed a team leader like DV.I can see Fish being in that role of team manager as long as he would take the governor off the O by letting MM do what he does best. Then Fish and Williams can do what they do best. JMO GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 3 / 10 1 3 10 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 96 posts Jul 01 2025
by Elvis 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 41498 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #28 I'd love to have Martz back with the Rams in pretty much any capacity from HC to some kind of offensive consultant. But hard to see that happening.If the Rams don't pull it together this year and fire Fisher, i like TSFH's idea of Sean Payton. I like Adam Gase, especially if he does well in Chicago this year as OC. (And Gase is someone i could see having Martz on his staff.)I hated Mora Jr. as an NFL HC, love him as UCLA HC and wouldn't want him as Rams HC. But maybe he'd be good 2nd time around. Still i don't see him as a good strategist, as a good X's and O's guy and that's something i like in a HC.Of course my opinions are only right about half the time.. RFU Season Ticket Holder by Rams the Legends live on 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #29 Hacksaw wrote:Fisher HC, Martz OC, Williams DC. Could this work? Could Fish give MM enough rope?I think the only reason I could not back Fish as HC and Martz as OC. As to do so would be a admission Fish is the better coach and I don't believe that is the case. While the NFL might have figured out the GSOT. Fact is Martz innovated some x's and o's that had to be countered he figured out how to make a teams defense a mismatch for his offense. This past week we once again saw how Fish and his philosophy can be countered by the most basic of offense such as the Skins just establishing and running on as at will. Which we do have what could be called a elite defense in many circles yet Fish again and in times before has been shut down by teams using the same basic x's and o's on him he preaches as his philosophy.So while Martz did not have the tenure Fish has when ya look at their body of work clearly Martz looks like he is the innovative of the 2 and in my opinion I believe firmly if ya have enough creativity to innovate once ya should still have that same creativity to once again look at the big picture and see a innovation ya can come up with again.So in my opinion Fish is not good enough in a Fish compared to Martz analysis to come away with Fish as the head coach and Martz as the subordinate. by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #30 I always felt that Mike Martz was one of the best OC's in the game. But in typical Rams fashion, Dick Vermiel retires (only to return a year later across the state) and the team promotes the guy from a position he dominated, to a position he was only OK at. His use of timeouts and the inability to "Fix it" became more obvious and his thing with Warner kind of put me off on him. The rest of the game going on distracted MM from what he did best. Pick apart defenses. He needed a team leader like DV.I can see Fish being in that role of team manager as long as he would take the governor off the O by letting MM do what he does best. Then Fish and Williams can do what they do best. JMO GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 3 / 10 1 3 10 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 96 posts Jul 01 2025
by Rams the Legends live on 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #29 Hacksaw wrote:Fisher HC, Martz OC, Williams DC. Could this work? Could Fish give MM enough rope?I think the only reason I could not back Fish as HC and Martz as OC. As to do so would be a admission Fish is the better coach and I don't believe that is the case. While the NFL might have figured out the GSOT. Fact is Martz innovated some x's and o's that had to be countered he figured out how to make a teams defense a mismatch for his offense. This past week we once again saw how Fish and his philosophy can be countered by the most basic of offense such as the Skins just establishing and running on as at will. Which we do have what could be called a elite defense in many circles yet Fish again and in times before has been shut down by teams using the same basic x's and o's on him he preaches as his philosophy.So while Martz did not have the tenure Fish has when ya look at their body of work clearly Martz looks like he is the innovative of the 2 and in my opinion I believe firmly if ya have enough creativity to innovate once ya should still have that same creativity to once again look at the big picture and see a innovation ya can come up with again.So in my opinion Fish is not good enough in a Fish compared to Martz analysis to come away with Fish as the head coach and Martz as the subordinate. by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #30 I always felt that Mike Martz was one of the best OC's in the game. But in typical Rams fashion, Dick Vermiel retires (only to return a year later across the state) and the team promotes the guy from a position he dominated, to a position he was only OK at. His use of timeouts and the inability to "Fix it" became more obvious and his thing with Warner kind of put me off on him. The rest of the game going on distracted MM from what he did best. Pick apart defenses. He needed a team leader like DV.I can see Fish being in that role of team manager as long as he would take the governor off the O by letting MM do what he does best. Then Fish and Williams can do what they do best. JMO GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 3 / 10 1 3 10 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 96 posts Jul 01 2025
by Hacksaw 9 years 9 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: So is Fisher the guy to lead the Los Angeles Rams? POST #30 I always felt that Mike Martz was one of the best OC's in the game. But in typical Rams fashion, Dick Vermiel retires (only to return a year later across the state) and the team promotes the guy from a position he dominated, to a position he was only OK at. His use of timeouts and the inability to "Fix it" became more obvious and his thing with Warner kind of put me off on him. The rest of the game going on distracted MM from what he did best. Pick apart defenses. He needed a team leader like DV.I can see Fish being in that role of team manager as long as he would take the governor off the O by letting MM do what he does best. Then Fish and Williams can do what they do best. JMO GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 3 / 10 1 3 10 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business