[Hacksaw]

Shoot I have always liked @CanuckRightWinger 's posts. They are creative and clever imo.

And I like @Rams1PlateSince1976 's avatar. Cool plates bro.

[Rams1PlateSince1976]

Best Canuck nickname for a player: "TJ Rubley Tuesday." He actually passed that along to Chris Berman who used it on the air.

[OldSchool]

I understand exactly what you're saying. My point is your presentation in your posts, the nicknames and words that aren't English just make your posts a nightmare. Couple that with the fact that your ideas to rebuild the Rams and the Browns make absolutely zero sense. You seem to expect the Browns front office to do things for their fans that are counter to what they've told Browns fans is their model for rebuilding the franchise. All the while after telling us that's what the Browns would be smart to do you are suggesting the Rams do the opposite and that is some how good for us but not good for them.

As for your so called Canadian good manners was this statement part of them?

So then I explain it more slowly so that even a Yemeni goat-herder with no English can understand it.

Another classic example of good manners.

Listen ace....of course the trade I am proposing is in the Rams favor. Duh!

[dieterbrock]

Shoot I have always liked @CanuckRightWinger 's posts. They are creative and clever imo.

And I like @Rams1PlateSince1976 's avatar. Cool plates bro.

Me too!
Having @CanuckRightWinger here is awesome and RalphDieterBrock sure hopes he keeps posting!

[Rams1PlateSince1976]

Another suggested correction for Canuck: "Yemini goat-roper" versus "Yemini goat herder."

[snackdaddy]

I understand exactly what you're saying. My point is your presentation in your posts, the nicknames and words that aren't English just make your posts a nightmare.


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Its an acquired taste.

Canuck has been doing that for years. I do enjoy reading his posts and sometimes I don't always agree, but its good reading. I don't necessarily disagree with his premise in this thread. Building through the draft is never a bad thing. My pessimism is more a reflection of the Rams inability to take advantage of the bevy of picks they acquired in the RGIII trade. They squandered a golden opportunity.

[OldSchool]

Its an acquired taste.

Canuck has been doing that for years. I do enjoy reading his posts and sometimes I don't always agree, but its good reading. I don't necessarily disagree with his premise in this thread. Building through the draft is never a bad thing. My pessimism is more a reflection of the Rams inability to take advantage of the bevy of picks they acquired in the RGIII trade. They squandered a golden opportunity.

My point aside from it being written like it was from an 8 year old was he presents a double standard. He says the Browns would be smart to draft a bunch of guys before the 37th pick. Would that not be the same then for the Rams? Aren't players picked before 37 good for the Rams? He's implying it is good for them but for us picking in the 4th, 5th and 7th is good. Which is ironic because according to most people the Rams have a better roster with fewer holes to fill than the Browns who barely won 1 game. They in fact need all the picks and value they can get from them where as the Rams need a few better players at fewer positions.

[Hacksaw]

Me too!
Having @CanuckRightWinger here is awesome and RalphDieterBrock sure hopes he keeps posting!

Imagine RalphDieterBrock if he was a @CanuckLeftWinger

[CanuckRightWinger]

Okay, so now my posts are written like an eight year old eh, OldSchool?

So your rudeness continues huh? Well ace, you reap what you sow.

Why don't you google Sports Illustrated.com and increase your knowledge base by 20% and read the part in SI's 2017 Mock Draft where they opine that John Ross the Washington Husky star WR may fall out of the First Round into the Second. They also state that "teams would be willing to trade up" if that happens. So that's just one scenario that reveals that your absolute dismissal of Cleveland's potential to trade up smells of poissons morts (look it up!).

Furthermore, just some basic football knowledge here perfessor.....but FYI, NFL teams turn over their rosters about 30% on yearly average. Lousy 4-12 teams, like the Rams, tend to turnover even at a higher rate. We'll need draft picks for that.

Oh yeah, and since there is a new McVay Regime in charge now, there is that other phenomenon you might have heard about called, "Picking Your Own Guys".....ya know where the new HC is gonna want his kind of players, not Jeff Fisher's kind of players. Which for any thinking person would suggest even more Ram personnel changes for 2017, not less. BTW, the cheapest place to find new NFL players is in the new 2017 rookie crop of ex-NCAA stars who are turning pro. I think they call it "The Draft"

Oh, and your assertion that if it's "smart for the Browns to draft a bunch of guys before the 37th pick. Would it not be the same for the Rams? Aren't players picked before 37 good for the Rams?"
ME: Um....what absolute pulp!
Candygram for OldSchool: The Rams don't have the picks above 37!!
In fact the Rams are missing some top picks in 2017. They're in Tennessee!!

Simply put, in a year when a new regime is coming in, Los Ramos are short of draft picks. So to help remedy that situation, I suggest a scenario where the Rams move down 15 spots in the Second Round to pick up THREE extra picks from Cleveland.
.....and what do you do? Carp about foreign words.....AND TOTALLY MISS THE POINT THAT THE RAMS DO NOT HAVE ANY PICKS ABOVE #37.
BTW, you don't have a job where you need to deal with numbers do you?

Finally, if you don't like my posts....don't read them.
Oh, and if you cannot resist them despite their rancidity to you, and you try to continue in this weak-minded critique of my posts, then I will deal with your rudeness and scorn as I did above. I am not going anywhere, nor am I altering my writing style because some unpleasant guy, with zero civility or humor, decides to get his jollies that day by lobbing rotten tomatoes (and flawed logic) at my posts.

It's probably best IMO that we not communicate directly anymore.
I would guess that the mods might share that sentiment.
I don't come here to argue....I come here to discuss and learn....and toss some humor around.
But I am not content to take any undeserved shyte.

[OldSchool]

Ok first off we aren't short on draft picks. In a draft that has 7 rounds we'll have 8 picks. That's not short on draft picks we have more than the average team will have and makes us have a surplus. First assumption proved wrong yet again.

Secondly while you're googling Sports Illustrated look into this thing called Moneyball. This is the stated philosophy of the new Browns regime. They even went so far as to put a baseball executive with no football experience in charge of their team. His stated draft philosophy is to accumulate more picks. With the additional picks their stance is they're taking more swings at the fences. In other words if you have more picks and you can roll the dice more often you have a better chance at striking gold. For them to trade away picks is completely counter to their entire business philosophy they themselves have stated they follow repeatedly.

I have no problem at all with the Rams trading down and in fact think it'll happen at least once in this draft. My problem which I've tried to explain to you in what three posts now is that you're picking the wrong trading partner. Couple that with the fact that your logic for the Rams wanting to trade down make little sense. There is in fact a new regime at the Rams. New regimes do not come in and have to turn things around in one year. In fact if you knew anything about our owner you'd realize the opposite is actually true. If one thing can be said about Kroenke is that he doesn't rush to make changes off one years results. He gave Fisher 5 horrible years of production before making the change. His Premiere League team hasn't won the title in 13 years but he's never forced a change. Our owner isn't Dan Snyder, or for that matter the Browns or Niners owners, to fire a coach after a year or two. Simply put McVay isn't under pressure to make a quick turn around. He in reality has a three year window to turn things around. He has a very good base of some talent and really just needs to bring in good coaching, which he's done in spades, and turn the talent level around in two groups on this roster the OLine and the WR group.

Now I'm sorry you're not capable of taking constructive criticism on your idea of a trade. I'll refrain from trying to point out things I see that don't make sense in them. I wouldn't want to hurt your feelings anymore than I already have. There's a far far greater chance though that the Browns will trade down instead of trade up. It's a simple matter of understanding their business philosophy .

The Rams btw led the league in roster turnover last year in the 5th year of a coaches run at 28%. Teams don't average 30% the league leader was under that number.