[Elvis]

It seems the Rams did the very least they could to not have Jeff Fisher coaching in a lame duck season.

A two year extension, with only one guaranteed, and they kept it on the down low...

[dieterbrock]

It's not verbal, it's a contract. Every credible thing I've read is it's 2 years with one guaranteed.
No big, fire him & move on.

But what is a gray area is when (if ever) it was physically signed
That's a potential sticky wicket
And of course can easily be solved with money

[Elvis]

I wonder if the David Shaw tour of the facility has anything to do with all this mess?

I doubt it, but maybe.

Nice to see you posting here, welcome aboard...

[dieterbrock]

The Rams will be paying him for 2017, no matter what.
And.. so what?

As long as there's another HC, I couldn't care less

[HighRoller]

eh?

teams have to abide by nfl recruitment and interview rules that make head coach replacement strategy difficult - moreover nfll coaches are fired mid season and promptly at the conclusion of the season with no apparent contingency plan in place, other than the team will look to fill the head coach position during the offseason, it happens all of time.

I find your argument confusing. How do you know there are not contingency plans? Do you have to violate rules to develop contingency plans?

You seem to have inside information as to the management process. Do tell?

If you think a team would fire a HC mid-season without a plan in place, I am sincerely happy you are not working for the Rams. Even the equipment managers have contingency plans for eventualities.

[Elvis]

I find your argument confusing. How do you know there are not contingency plans? Do you have to violate rules to develop contingency plans?

You seem to have inside information as to the management process. Do tell?

If you think a team would fire a HC mid-season without a plan in place, I am sincerely happy you are not working for the Rams. Even the equipment managers have contingency plans for eventualities.

I'd think the Rams would have a contingency plan for replacing the HC regardless of whether they were planning on firing him. Unexpected things happen, best to be prepared.

And let's not forget the Rams got in a bidding war with Miami over Fisher so there's no guarantee they'll get their first choice anyway.

But the uncertainty of hiring a HC in the NFL is no reason to stick with a perennial loser like Jeff Fisher...

[HighRoller]

I'd think the Rams would have a contingency plan for replacing the HC regardless of whether they were planning on firing him. Unexpected things happen, best to be prepared.

And let's not forget the Rams got in a bidding war with Miami over Fisher so there's no guarantee they'll get their first choice anyway.

But the uncertainty of hiring a HC in the NFL is no reason to stick with a perennial loser like Jeff Fisher...

I agree with all your points but your last. Jeff Fisher has much to offer. We all know we are a viable offense away from possibly taking the division. Or so it appears. If the landscape for HC looks grim this off season there is an argument to keep what you have.

I don't know exactly what I want for coach next year. But EVERYTHING considered, I would be fine with Fisher for another year. And if he has any hope for anything after that, it better not be a name like Boras or Groh running the offense. And I do not like the nepotism coaching the secondary right now either.

[aeneas1]

I find your argument confusing. How do you know there are not contingency plans? Do you have to violate rules to develop contingency plans?

You seem to have inside information as to the management process. Do tell?

If you think a team would fire a HC mid-season without a plan in place, I am sincerely happy you are not working for the Rams. Even the equipment managers have contingency plans for eventualities.

nothing confusing about it really... you stated:

The Rams will not part with Fisher unless they have someone who they really want and believe can be retained. THEN, they will have to have a couple viable contingencies they are certain they can retain if plan A falls on its face.

i simply pointed out that nfl teams fire head coaches all of the time without having the "contingency plan" you pointed to in place. why? because it's very difficult to do so given the nfl rules.

[HighRoller]

nothing confusing about it really... you stated:

i simply pointed out that nfl teams fire head coaches all of the time without having the "contingency plan" you pointed to in place. why? because it's very difficult to do so given the nfl rules.

How do you know there are no contingency plans? Do you know what a contingency plan is? For whatever reason you are equating a contingency plan with tampering. I can give you at least a dozen coordinators that would jump on the Rams HC job. There may be a decent HC or two that will be available as well. The question would be, do we want any of those over Fisher? Maybe, maybe not. So where does that violate any rules oh wise one?

For the record, I simplified the above example for you.

[aeneas1]

How do you know there are no contingency plans? Do you know what a contingency plan is? For whatever reason you are equating a contingency plan with tampering. I can give you at least a dozen coordinators that would jump on the Rams HC job. There may be a decent HC or two that will be available as well. The question would be, do we want any of those over Fisher? Maybe, maybe not. So where does that violate any rules oh wise one?

For the record, I simplified the above example for you.

i see ya get a bit snarky when questioned, eh? in turn, let me explain, once again, as i would to a small child... when describing your "contingency plan" you wrote:

The Rams will not part with Fisher unless they have someone who they really want and believe can be retained. THEN, they will have to have a couple viable contingencies they are certain they can retain if plan A falls on its face.

are ya with me so far?

in response i wrote that it's very difficult for teams to have all of their ducks in a row, as they would like, before they fire a head coach, because of nfl rules, and that teams fire head coaches all of the time, even mid season, without the type of "contingency plan" you insist the rams must and will have in place before they even think about sending fish packing.

since fish was hired in 2012, 22 nfl head coaches have been fired, do you believe that each and every team that fired those head coaches first identified who the replacement would be? and then identified two viable options in the event their first choice didn't work out? before they even fired their head coach? really?

good grief.

if you want to argue that the rams, like all other teams in search of a head coach, can get a jump on the process by legally and freely looking at potential college and unemployed nfl candidates during the season, before they fire their head coach, fine, but that's common knowledge. of course a large pool of quality candidates remains that can't be interviewed, decided on, before the head coach is fired. you understand that, don't you?