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 by BuiltRamTough
9 years 2 months ago
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Armenia   Los Angeles
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OldSchool wrote:Denver has under $3 million in cap space they can't afford Sams contract without drastic cuts.

They could release Ryan Clady and restructure WR (Thomas) and turn his salary into a signing bonus.

Heard Pat Kirwan say that on radio. There's always a way for a team to create emergency cap room.

 by OldSchool
9 years 2 months ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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BuiltRamTough wrote:
OldSchool wrote:Denver has under $3 million in cap space they can't afford Sams contract without drastic cuts.

They could release Ryan Clady and restructure WR (Thomas) and turn his salary into a signing bonus.

Heard Pat Kirwan say that on radio. There's always a way for a team to create emergency cap room.

With their RT retiring they'd be in a world of hurt if they release Clady. They're already fools for paying Okung so much but to make him the only OT on the roster is a joke.

 by Hacksaw
9 years 2 months ago
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United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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moklerman wrote:
Hacksaw wrote:
Gareth wrote:
Not me.

But they could draft a good QB, have another bad season which finally gets Fisher fired, and then hire a head coach who actually has an idea about building a good offense in the NFL.

This. Get em if you can. If somehow we could get Treadwell and Lynch, I'd be happy. We'd have to give up a couple seconds most likely.
Rookie QB and rookie WR? Is 2016 a throwaway season in that scenario?


Naw. We got other guys and also a start on the future.

 by dieterbrock
9 years 2 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
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moklerman wrote:
Elvis wrote:Denver wouldn't pay Osweiler $37 mil guaranteed for the first two years...
I wouldn't either for a guy who's only started 7 games and who was fading. The Broncos welcomed back a very depleted Manning and stuck with him in favor of Osweiler so I don't think they are very high on him much less willing to pay a premium for him.

$23M guaranteed for 2 years plus incentives is a pretty tolerable contract for a starter especially considering the relatively easy out for the team if they need it. If Denver wanted Bradford I don't think price would stall the deal.

Because you're a fan of his.
That's a lot of money for mediocre production, and of course the injury thing hangs over his head.
The other thing you know you get with Bradford is shrewd contract negotiations.

 by PARAM
9 years 2 months ago
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Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
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dieterbrock wrote:
snackdaddy wrote:Does picking a quarterback even matter? Since when has Snisher developed a good quarterback? How many people have faith that they can draft then develop a quarterback into a good NFL starter?

Well, you cant not draft a QB because the HC doesn't have a history of developing them. And Steve McNair did pretty well, so I guess there is hope there.
Secondly, I think when a player has "it" the coach has to alter his style too. Belechick wasn't an offensive type guy, he was always a D mastermind. Even early in Brady career it was low risk type play. But as Brady evolved so did Belechick

But most important, get the QB because if Fisher cant figure it out, he'll be gone and the next guy will


Great story line. Better than the original article.

What if the Rams are on the clock at #15 and Lynch is still there but they trade down for an extra #2? Then go something like....Laquan Treadwell, Ryan Kelly, Jonathan Bullard and Austin Johnson? Man there will be some pizzed off fans. Personally, I'd be fine with that.

 by dieterbrock
9 years 2 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
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PARAM wrote:
dieterbrock wrote:
snackdaddy wrote:Does picking a quarterback even matter? Since when has Snisher developed a good quarterback? How many people have faith that they can draft then develop a quarterback into a good NFL starter?

Well, you cant not draft a QB because the HC doesn't have a history of developing them. And Steve McNair did pretty well, so I guess there is hope there.
Secondly, I think when a player has "it" the coach has to alter his style too. Belechick wasn't an offensive type guy, he was always a D mastermind. Even early in Brady career it was low risk type play. But as Brady evolved so did Belechick

But most important, get the QB because if Fisher cant figure it out, he'll be gone and the next guy will


Great story line. Better than the original article.

What if the Rams are on the clock at #15 and Lynch is still there but they trade down for an extra #2? Then go something like....Laquan Treadwell, Ryan Kelly, Jonathan Bullard and Austin Johnson? Man there will be some pizzed off fans. Personally, I'd be fine with that.

I think that if the Rams trade back, and pick up additional OFFENSIVE players, it would be (should be) acceptable. May not be what we want, but should provide assistance where we need it most. On the other hand, if the trade down results in mostly defensive players, I could see gaskets blown...
And rightly so

 by Elvis
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United States of America   Los Angeles
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PARAM wrote:
dieterbrock wrote:Great story line. Better than the original article.

What if the Rams are on the clock at #15 and Lynch is still there but they trade down for an extra #2? Then go something like....Laquan Treadwell, Ryan Kelly, Jonathan Bullard and Austin Johnson? Man there will be some pizzed off fans. Personally, I'd be fine with that.


I'm fine with the money ball approach. But, of course, you have to win, whatever approach you take.

And with the current coaching staff i'm not expecting a lot of offense no matter how we draft so i'm not even sure it makes much sense to spend a ton of resources on the passing game when we either can't or won't utilize it very well.

But like every Jeff Fisher season, i'm willing, and hoping to be wrong about the offense...

 by moklerman
9 years 2 months ago
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
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dieterbrock wrote:
moklerman wrote:
Elvis wrote:Denver wouldn't pay Osweiler $37 mil guaranteed for the first two years...
I wouldn't either for a guy who's only started 7 games and who was fading. The Broncos welcomed back a very depleted Manning and stuck with him in favor of Osweiler so I don't think they are very high on him much less willing to pay a premium for him.

$23M guaranteed for 2 years plus incentives is a pretty tolerable contract for a starter especially considering the relatively easy out for the team if they need it. If Denver wanted Bradford I don't think price would stall the deal.

Because you're a fan of his.
That's a lot of money for mediocre production, and of course the injury thing hangs over his head.
The other thing you know you get with Bradford is shrewd contract negotiations.
He's not rookie deal cheap but his contract isn't prohibitive either. That he signed the deal without even testing FA is the curious thing to me. Critics will say it's because there was no market for him, which might be true. But that doesn't seem likely considering the very thin market overall and especially with how much Osweiler got.

Like I said, all the pieces are adding up to me thinking Bradford gets traded before the season. Philly moving up to 8, SF, LA and DEN slowplaying things but not having QB's, Bradford taking a short term deal...it'll be interesting.

 by dieterbrock
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United States of America   New Jersey
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moklerman wrote:
Like I said, all the pieces are adding up to me thinking Bradford gets traded before the season. Philly moving up to 8, SF, LA and DEN slowplaying things but not having QB's, Bradford taking a short term deal...it'll be interesting.


I think he's a good candidate for sure and is a perfect fit for Denver.
I just cant see how Philly can justify drafting a QB if they don't trade Bradford of even Daniel

 by moklerman
9 years 2 months ago
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
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dieterbrock wrote:
moklerman wrote:
Like I said, all the pieces are adding up to me thinking Bradford gets traded before the season. Philly moving up to 8, SF, LA and DEN slowplaying things but not having QB's, Bradford taking a short term deal...it'll be interesting.


I think he's a good candidate for sure and is a perfect fit for Denver.
I just cant see how Philly can justify drafting a QB if they don't trade Bradford of even Daniel
Me either and I don't know how they'd even go about it. If they trade Bradford before they pick, it could blow up in their faces and they could be left without a QB. If they wait until they draft their QB, any trade leverage would suffer or disappear.

Bradford's made a lot of money but I feel bad for him career-wise. I think he's a better QB than people think but he keeps getting bounced around and never has any continuity. I'd still take him back as a Ram though. As much as I criticize Fisher and his OC's, things were actually looking pretty good before Bradford got hurt the 2nd time. Can't ignore the injuries but of all the QB's Fisher's had recently, Bradford actually looked like he could get the offense going.

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