[OldSchool]

The only difference with us and Seattle is they got lucky and found a franchise QB in the 3rd round.

[dieterbrock]

Granted, they need to identify and re-sign/extend their core players. Time will tell if they kept the right ones.

Also, put Keenum on the shesquats and Russell Wilson on the Rams...wonder if that wouldn't change history, for both teams. You could argue a swap of coaching staffs would be in order as well. SEA got a bit lucky with Wilson I contend. I'd like to get some of that "luck" on our team.

I dont like the luck angle. Seattle created their own luck. If Wilson wasn't the guy they would have kept on trying.
Had They have given the starting job to Matt Flynn like the Rams have the job to Foles, who knows what would have happened.

Seattle put in a system that highlighted Wilson's strength's and stuck with it as opposed to Washington with RGIII.

Or San Fran with Kap

[ramsman34]

Dieter:

So, we have foiled our own luck by anointing Foles the starter and by "only" drafting Mannion and signing Keenum? Not sure they are not "trying" as you put it. They are just missing, I.E. not getting lucky. The she squats didn't create Russell Wilson, but the did Identify him as a quality developmental prospect. If they thought he was this guy, why risk waiting until the 3rd round to take him? There was some luck involved, IMO. This draft might have a lucky gem in it and we might draft him. I don't see any F/A QB as an option unless it is Kaep or RG3 and those two are far from sure thing but probably better than at least Foles and Keenum. Maybe a trade (Glennon)? the Rams should make some kinda of move and bring in at least a 4th QB. then let them compete and see who lands were. Signing Foles to that extension looks absolutely asinine in retrospect; it is hindering our ability to jettison him for someone, anyone else.

Also, as the ripper puts it, SEA built a system that accents RW's strengths. I am not sure what Keenum's "strengths " are, by comparison, and am even less sure that the Rams offensive staff could build a system accentuating whatever those strengths are. To date, the Rams O is run first with deep play action passing game. That doesn't seem to fit Keenum at all. Perhaps that is why we have a new passing game coordinator???

I think both Kaep and RG3 could work in the Rams' current system as they have good arms and have mobility both as runners and escaping pressure. Keenum has the latter to a much lesser degree, but his deep arm strength is lacking. I also think this new passing game cat better do something to our passing game that fits both the run-first philosophy and totally plays to the strengths as a passer of whomever we end up starting under center. Or else expect another year of the bottom scrapping shit show offense for this team. Teams will take away our run game to a much greater degree next year if our passing game is still the joke that is has been.

[ramsman34]

The only difference with us and Seattle is they got lucky and found a franchise QB in the 3rd round.

That is basically what I am saying. No chance in hell they knew what they were getting. They were quick and smart to tailor the system around him. That alone makes them a smarter staff than we have. Although, Foles was allegedly a good deep ball play action QB. So, the RAMS tried. Both them and Foles failed, unfortunately. Keenum isn't a deep ball guy.

Dieter is absolutely right in that the RAMS must keep trying and trying until they get it right AND be willing to design the offense around that QB's strengths while featuring Gurley.

[moklerman]

Not a Foles fan, but WTF? He isn't literally broken. It's not like he's a microwave that blew up that has to be replaced. Good habits and good coaching should be enough to get him back to where he was.

Granted, having to play in the Rams offense for more than a game or two seems to have fried his egg, but they did get rid of Cignetti. Maybe Boras is a better fit for Foles?

It's either first round, QBOTF for the Rams or nothing at this point. Might as well just stick with what they've got. If Fitz was cheap, sure, bring him in. But even though he's got Rams roots, I wouldn't be comfortable giving him a long-term, high dollar contract. No to Kaep. No to RGIII. Is Glennon much different than what they've got?

[Elvis]

[dieterbrock]

Dieter:

So, we have foiled our own luck by anointing Foles the starter and by "only" drafting Mannion and signing Keenum? Not sure they are not "trying" as you put it. They are just missing, I.E. not getting lucky. The she squats didn't create Russell Wilson, but the did Identify him as a quality developmental prospect. If they thought he was this guy, why risk waiting until the 3rd round to take him? There was some luck involved, IMO. .

Because Seattle didn't "anoint" Matt Flynn (That year's Brock Osweiler) as the starter, they had an open competition in camp and the best man won. Wilson.
Mannion didn't get a shot, heck Austin Davis didn't get a shot to make the team.

There's a certain amount of luck involved, but considering where Fisher gets his QB's from, its gonna take more than "luck" to get a good one.