[ramsww]

that chart has some crazy analytics!

yeah, and I’d love to see the analytics on the Fiske trade. Meaningless

[ramsww]

Gotta love the TE pick. Ferguson, size, hands, physical play. Without Higbee it was bleak. Now they have 2 solid TEs.

[ramsww]

Like I said in another post, meaningless. The only thing that matters is how the players taken pan out, including our 2026 1st rounder. The Fiske trade was “analytically” calculated as the worst 2nd round trade up in the last six years.

[Elvis]

Like I said in another post, meaningless. The only thing that matters is how the players taken pan out, including our 2026 1st rounder. The Fiske trade was “analytically” calculated as the worst 2nd round trade up in the last six years.

If the only that matters is how the players taken pan out, why don't you like the trade? We don't know how the players will pan out yet...

[Dare]

Landman looks better as a run stopping MIKE than either Jones or Rozeboom, now add in Ford and the Rams have strengthened their early down front 7. Landman and Speights are better than Jones and Rozeboom especially against early down runs.

Brown was very weak vs the run as he simply never learned how to stack and shed. He would get blocked and stayed blocked and normally never even required a double team.

That run stopping front is a rotational alignment, i.e. normally on early downs. In passing situations the MIKE will get pulled and Ford might stay or also might be pulled depending upon the situation, i.e. down and distance. Just look at the run defense with Jones and after he left. There wasn't much change if any. Both Ford and Landman have a history of being strong vs the run.

[ramsww]

If the only that matters is how the players taken pan out, why don't you like the trade? We don't know how the players will pan out yet...

It’s not a matter of liking the trade. I’m simply saying it’s being over hyped by Ram fans. It certainly isn’t any big deal by the press. We shifted our focus to a QB in 2026. That’s fine. I’m surprised ATL gave up a 2026 1st but we also gave them a 3rd and Atl plans to make it a late pick. We just need to have things fall our way and for the day 2 & 3 picks to make an impact. Falcons got a couple of immediate starters so far. Not sure we can say that.

[Youngblood22]

It’s not a matter of liking the trade. I’m simply saying it’s being over hyped by Ram fans. It certainly isn’t any big deal by the press. We shifted our focus to a QB in 2026. That’s fine. I’m surprised ATL gave up a 2026 1st but we also gave them a 3rd and Atl plans to make it a late pick. We just need to have things fall our way and for the day 2 & 3 picks to make an impact. Falcons got a couple of immediate starters so far. Not sure we can say that.

We're drafting mostly for depth, Falcon are drafting for starters and relevance. Rams are looking at the big picture, falcon are trying to keep up.

[PARAM]

It’s not a matter of liking the trade. I’m simply saying it’s being over hyped by Ram fans. It certainly isn’t any big deal by the press. We shifted our focus to a QB in 2026. That’s fine. I’m surprised ATL gave up a 2026 1st but we also gave them a 3rd and Atl plans to make it a late pick. We just need to have things fall our way and for the day 2 & 3 picks to make an impact. Falcons got a couple of immediate starters so far. Not sure we can say that.

I don't know how suddenly having 2 first round picks in next years draft can be "overhyped". The press? They're consumed with the "now". It'll be hyped a lot when the season is growing to a close and the Rams are SB contenders. Then again after the SB and leading up to the draft.

As far as "shifted our focus" that's a perception, however incorrect it may be. I'd say, QB was NEVER their focus this year and the only shift occurred in the minds of fans who wanted or expected a QB high in the draft. Falcons needed "immediate" starters on the edge because they were 29th in sacks last year. The Rams lost 1 starter, Kupp. And they replaced him with Adams. They don't need "starters" so, like the great organization they have become, they went with bolstering the future.

But fans will be fans and kvetch over the smallest things, no matter how unimportant they may be. More importantly, they've made just 2 picks so far (both for solid depth now and future starting potential) and they have 6 remaining, in the area of the draft where they have really excelled recently.

[rams74]

It’s not a matter of liking the trade. I’m simply saying it’s being over hyped by Ram fans. It certainly isn’t any big deal by the press.

Not a big deal by the press? Here's what ESPN is saying about the trade:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2025/insi ... yers-picks

Falcons trade with Rams, move back into Round 1

Falcons get: Nos. 26 and 101
Rams get: Nos. 46 and 242 and a 2026 first-round pick

Falcons grade: F
Rams grade: A

I'm sorry, what? Atlanta dealt a future first-rounder to move up from No. 46 to No. 26? For James Pearce Jr.? There's no way to spin it: This is a poor team-building choice, plain and simple.

It's not that the Falcons couldn't use a second pass rusher (they drafted Jalon Walker at pick No. 15). It's that they surrendered what could end up being a ton of draft capital.

Let's break down the numbers. If we assume no discount for future picks and put the future first at pick No. 16 next year, this is what the Falcons have done:

Gave up an early third-round pick's worth of surplus value.

Spent more draft capital on Pearce than they did on Walker.

That is the average outcome. The downside is dramatically and asymmetrically worse. The Falcons are starting Michael Penix Jr. -- largely still an unknown! -- at quarterback next season. The chance that the pick they gave to the Rams could be top 10, or even top five, is not trivial at all. If that happens, the value of what Atlanta surrendered quickly moves higher.

Also, it's hard to argue there was a tier drop at edge after Pearce. Mike Green and Donovan Ezeiruaku are still on the board entering Round 2. It sure doesn't seem as if the Falcons needed to pay a premium for Pearce. Think about what a first-round pick can net a team in the veteran trade market. Now compare that simply to the difference between Pearce and the player the Falcons could have had at 46.

To be fair, I've omitted the only piece of good news for Atlanta in this exchange -- picking up pick No. 101 in this year's draft. But this sure looks like a panic move when no panic was required.

The Rams deserve credit for avoiding a mistake teams always make -- not wanting to trade down "too far." They gained a ton of draft pick value next year -- when they might need a quarterback! -- and still get to make a pick at No. 46 that could help them make a title run in 2025.

[snackdaddy]

“Having two number 1's in a much more talented draft in 2026 is huge and we still have two picks in the top 90 where the value is in this draft”

I see the logic, but the what IFs bother me. What IF Penix manages to take ATl to the playoffs? What IF we had all the pieces to win another SB except one (see E. Jones and our run D) ? I guess some people feel Reeder IS the answer. lol. What if Stafford gets hurt this year and retires? I’m not saying Sanders, hell no but 7 to 19 worthy players passed over this year for who may be available next year? You can’t pass on your #1 pick and defer it to 2026 but this feels like the next best thing. I have faith in McSneed, but it’s like the lottery….yeah, I’ll take my money now.

The what if games goes more than one way. What if the guys they got this weekend helps them win another Superbowl? What if that trade sets them up to get their next franchise quarterback after Stafford retires?

What if Ferguson plays like Travis Kelce or a young Zach Ertz? What if Josiah Stewart becomes a premier pass rusher. What if Jaquez Hunter is their next pro bowl running back?

Most evaluators say this is an overall weaker draft class than recent years. Those same people think next year's class will be better. Deferring to next year is not a bad thing if that is true. But, I guess you can say what if it isn't true?

And don't discount Landman at ILB. He's improved there every year as an undrafted free agent. Just might be better than Reeder. Speights will have another year of experience.