by moklerman 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Mannion, Back to School POST #21 Stranger wrote:moklerman wrote:Stranger wrote:I don't really know a lot about the kid, but watching the vids posted in this thread screamed yellow flags for me.I meant no, you're not seeing ghosts. I don't like the way he throws either. His throwing motion is neither tight nor compact, which is even more of an issue with a guy who's built like a pterodactyl. Compound that with slow feet and what seems like slow decision making--at the college level, and I was not thrilled with him as the pick for the Rams.Like I said back then, he's just a Kerry Collins clone. Considering Fisher had Collins with the Titans and seemed to like him, I guess the pick isn't that hard to figure out. But I didn't and don't like it.I hope Mannion proves me wrong and lights the world on fire but realistically, it just further suggests that the plan under Fisher is going to continue to be to run an offense that seems to just begrudgingly tolerate having a QB on the field.I'm wondering if our top 2 QB's (starter & backup) aren't on the roster yet.I won't be surprised at all if Mannion, Foles AND Keenum are all back next year. Just because the press thinks that the Rams should draft a QB doesn't mean the Rams do.I could see them trying to fix Foles. I haven't seen an explanation as to what's really wrong with him and they did pay him. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see him get a chance to win back his job.Mannion's still a project but I think they let him continue to try and develop. They spent a 3rd on him and haven't given him a chance to actually play yet, so he'll obviously be back.Keenum's already been named the incumbent.So, for a team that's run-first and defense, do they really spend a top half of the first pick on what will likely be a project QB? This is not the group to develop a QB IMO and I hope they see that. It would be a waste. That same pick could be used on a player that this group is much more adept at identifying. Maybe they get lucky and the best WR in the draft is sitting there and they don't have to think about it. by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Mannion, Back to School POST #22 Foles carries $8M of dead weight salary on his back with a $1.75M base salary . I think he stays. That $6M roster bonus though.... GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by /zn/ 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 6948 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Re: Mannion, Back to School POST #23 Hacksaw wrote:Foles carries $8M of dead weight salary on his back with a $1.75M base salary . I think he stays. That $6M roster bonus though....But cutting or trading him DOES give immediate cap advantages. Works this way. Often, the Rams will park the biggest cap hit of a front-loaded contract in the 2nd year, not the 1st year, of a deal. So for example they could sign someone like Johnson, and his 2017 cap hit could be bigger than his 2016 cap hit, and then it goes down in subsequent years. Cutting or trading Foles this year would give them 12+ M in additional 2017 cap space. So they could use that space now to lock up one of their own FAs or an outside FA. Given that, yes it's possible that they could move on. It's also of course possible that they could try to get him back on track. But either way yes they do have options. . by Neil039 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 2664 Joined: Feb 02 2016 LA Coliseum Superstar Re: Mannion, Back to School POST #24 /zn/ wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Foles carries $8M of dead weight salary on his back with a $1.75M base salary . I think he stays. That $6M roster bonus though....But cutting or trading him DOES give immediate cap advantages. Works this way. Often, the Rams will park the biggest cap hit of a front-loaded contract in the 2nd year, not the 1st year, of a deal. So for example they could sign someone like Johnson, and his 2017 cap hit could be bigger than his 2016 cap hit, and then it goes down in subsequent years. Cutting or trading Foles this year would give them 12+ M in additional 2017 cap space. So they could use that space now to lock up one of their own FAs or an outside FA. Given that, yes it's possible that they could move on. It's also of course possible that they could try to get him back on track. But either way yes they do have options. .Agree with your last line 100%. They do have options. That has become the best part of the off season for most fans including myself. I think the Rams owing Foles 8M this year is far better than an 8-8 season that he was middle of the road. That would have driven his asking price way up, then that mess would have truly stunk it up! The truly educated can listen to any view without losing their temper or self-confidence. by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Mannion, Back to School POST #25 /zn/ wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Foles carries $8M of dead weight salary on his back with a $1.75M base salary . I think he stays. That $6M roster bonus though....But cutting or trading him DOES give immediate cap advantages. Works this way. Often, the Rams will park the biggest cap hit of a front-loaded contract in the 2nd year, not the 1st year, of a deal. So for example they could sign someone like Johnson, and his 2017 cap hit could be bigger than his 2016 cap hit, and then it goes down in subsequent years. Cutting or trading Foles this year would give them 12+ M in additional 2017 cap space. So they could use that space now to lock up one of their own FAs or an outside FA. Given that, yes it's possible that they could move on. It's also of course possible that they could try to get him back on track. But either way yes they do have options. .I thought they don't have to pay the base and can spread the dead money over 2 years as long as the player is released after June 1st? His dead cap hit is $8M. That doesn't just disappear does it?Nick Foles deal.Year...Base Salary .......Signing Bonus......Roster Bonus.....Workout Bonus.......Cap Hit.........Dead Cap 2015...$1,022,000 ....... $1,000,000.........$2,000,000...........$20,000..........$4,042,000.....$7,792,0002016...$1,750,000........$1,000,000..........$6,000,000............. - ...............$8,750,000.....$8,000,0002017....$10,750,000......$1,000,000..........$1,500,000............. - ..............$13,250,000....$1,000,000Look at next years base salary and cap hit. He'd have to win the Superbowl to earn that.Perhaps you or one of our resident capologost's could help me with this?When a player is released after June 1, the team’s Cap savings for that year is the player’s Base Salary, while the player’s bonus proration for that year is all that remains to count against the Salary Cap. The balance of the player’s bonus pro-rations will count in the following year.The new CBA signed in 2011 left in place a provision that allows teams to designate two (2) pre-June 1 releases for post-June 1 Salary Cap treatment. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by /zn/ 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 6948 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Re: Mannion, Back to School POST #26 Look at next years base salary and cap hit. He'd have to win the Superbowl to earn that.Perhaps you or one of our resident capologost's could help me with this?Yeah it's simple. It's not guaranteed. That means they can cut or trade him anywhere from now through February 2017 and not owe that money against the 2017 cap. So it's simply not an issue. Plus also, as I explained before, cutting him/trading him now can provide immediate advantages, should they go that way. In other words, it's not simply an issue of taking the 2016 cap hit and that's the end of the story. There's more to it than that. It can supply immediate advantages because the Rams frequently use the 2nd year of a deal to put in a big frontloaded cap hit. That means the more 2017 cap space they have NOW, the more they can use NOW. I just don't see the Foles money as an issue. .... Reply 3 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 26 posts Jul 21 2025
by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Mannion, Back to School POST #22 Foles carries $8M of dead weight salary on his back with a $1.75M base salary . I think he stays. That $6M roster bonus though.... GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by /zn/ 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 6948 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Re: Mannion, Back to School POST #23 Hacksaw wrote:Foles carries $8M of dead weight salary on his back with a $1.75M base salary . I think he stays. That $6M roster bonus though....But cutting or trading him DOES give immediate cap advantages. Works this way. Often, the Rams will park the biggest cap hit of a front-loaded contract in the 2nd year, not the 1st year, of a deal. So for example they could sign someone like Johnson, and his 2017 cap hit could be bigger than his 2016 cap hit, and then it goes down in subsequent years. Cutting or trading Foles this year would give them 12+ M in additional 2017 cap space. So they could use that space now to lock up one of their own FAs or an outside FA. Given that, yes it's possible that they could move on. It's also of course possible that they could try to get him back on track. But either way yes they do have options. . by Neil039 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 2664 Joined: Feb 02 2016 LA Coliseum Superstar Re: Mannion, Back to School POST #24 /zn/ wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Foles carries $8M of dead weight salary on his back with a $1.75M base salary . I think he stays. That $6M roster bonus though....But cutting or trading him DOES give immediate cap advantages. Works this way. Often, the Rams will park the biggest cap hit of a front-loaded contract in the 2nd year, not the 1st year, of a deal. So for example they could sign someone like Johnson, and his 2017 cap hit could be bigger than his 2016 cap hit, and then it goes down in subsequent years. Cutting or trading Foles this year would give them 12+ M in additional 2017 cap space. So they could use that space now to lock up one of their own FAs or an outside FA. Given that, yes it's possible that they could move on. It's also of course possible that they could try to get him back on track. But either way yes they do have options. .Agree with your last line 100%. They do have options. That has become the best part of the off season for most fans including myself. I think the Rams owing Foles 8M this year is far better than an 8-8 season that he was middle of the road. That would have driven his asking price way up, then that mess would have truly stunk it up! The truly educated can listen to any view without losing their temper or self-confidence. by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Mannion, Back to School POST #25 /zn/ wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Foles carries $8M of dead weight salary on his back with a $1.75M base salary . I think he stays. That $6M roster bonus though....But cutting or trading him DOES give immediate cap advantages. Works this way. Often, the Rams will park the biggest cap hit of a front-loaded contract in the 2nd year, not the 1st year, of a deal. So for example they could sign someone like Johnson, and his 2017 cap hit could be bigger than his 2016 cap hit, and then it goes down in subsequent years. Cutting or trading Foles this year would give them 12+ M in additional 2017 cap space. So they could use that space now to lock up one of their own FAs or an outside FA. Given that, yes it's possible that they could move on. It's also of course possible that they could try to get him back on track. But either way yes they do have options. .I thought they don't have to pay the base and can spread the dead money over 2 years as long as the player is released after June 1st? His dead cap hit is $8M. That doesn't just disappear does it?Nick Foles deal.Year...Base Salary .......Signing Bonus......Roster Bonus.....Workout Bonus.......Cap Hit.........Dead Cap 2015...$1,022,000 ....... $1,000,000.........$2,000,000...........$20,000..........$4,042,000.....$7,792,0002016...$1,750,000........$1,000,000..........$6,000,000............. - ...............$8,750,000.....$8,000,0002017....$10,750,000......$1,000,000..........$1,500,000............. - ..............$13,250,000....$1,000,000Look at next years base salary and cap hit. He'd have to win the Superbowl to earn that.Perhaps you or one of our resident capologost's could help me with this?When a player is released after June 1, the team’s Cap savings for that year is the player’s Base Salary, while the player’s bonus proration for that year is all that remains to count against the Salary Cap. The balance of the player’s bonus pro-rations will count in the following year.The new CBA signed in 2011 left in place a provision that allows teams to designate two (2) pre-June 1 releases for post-June 1 Salary Cap treatment. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by /zn/ 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 6948 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Re: Mannion, Back to School POST #26 Look at next years base salary and cap hit. He'd have to win the Superbowl to earn that.Perhaps you or one of our resident capologost's could help me with this?Yeah it's simple. It's not guaranteed. That means they can cut or trade him anywhere from now through February 2017 and not owe that money against the 2017 cap. So it's simply not an issue. Plus also, as I explained before, cutting him/trading him now can provide immediate advantages, should they go that way. In other words, it's not simply an issue of taking the 2016 cap hit and that's the end of the story. There's more to it than that. It can supply immediate advantages because the Rams frequently use the 2nd year of a deal to put in a big frontloaded cap hit. That means the more 2017 cap space they have NOW, the more they can use NOW. I just don't see the Foles money as an issue. .... Reply 3 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 26 posts Jul 21 2025
by /zn/ 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 6948 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Re: Mannion, Back to School POST #23 Hacksaw wrote:Foles carries $8M of dead weight salary on his back with a $1.75M base salary . I think he stays. That $6M roster bonus though....But cutting or trading him DOES give immediate cap advantages. Works this way. Often, the Rams will park the biggest cap hit of a front-loaded contract in the 2nd year, not the 1st year, of a deal. So for example they could sign someone like Johnson, and his 2017 cap hit could be bigger than his 2016 cap hit, and then it goes down in subsequent years. Cutting or trading Foles this year would give them 12+ M in additional 2017 cap space. So they could use that space now to lock up one of their own FAs or an outside FA. Given that, yes it's possible that they could move on. It's also of course possible that they could try to get him back on track. But either way yes they do have options. . by Neil039 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 2664 Joined: Feb 02 2016 LA Coliseum Superstar Re: Mannion, Back to School POST #24 /zn/ wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Foles carries $8M of dead weight salary on his back with a $1.75M base salary . I think he stays. That $6M roster bonus though....But cutting or trading him DOES give immediate cap advantages. Works this way. Often, the Rams will park the biggest cap hit of a front-loaded contract in the 2nd year, not the 1st year, of a deal. So for example they could sign someone like Johnson, and his 2017 cap hit could be bigger than his 2016 cap hit, and then it goes down in subsequent years. Cutting or trading Foles this year would give them 12+ M in additional 2017 cap space. So they could use that space now to lock up one of their own FAs or an outside FA. Given that, yes it's possible that they could move on. It's also of course possible that they could try to get him back on track. But either way yes they do have options. .Agree with your last line 100%. They do have options. That has become the best part of the off season for most fans including myself. I think the Rams owing Foles 8M this year is far better than an 8-8 season that he was middle of the road. That would have driven his asking price way up, then that mess would have truly stunk it up! The truly educated can listen to any view without losing their temper or self-confidence. by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Mannion, Back to School POST #25 /zn/ wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Foles carries $8M of dead weight salary on his back with a $1.75M base salary . I think he stays. That $6M roster bonus though....But cutting or trading him DOES give immediate cap advantages. Works this way. Often, the Rams will park the biggest cap hit of a front-loaded contract in the 2nd year, not the 1st year, of a deal. So for example they could sign someone like Johnson, and his 2017 cap hit could be bigger than his 2016 cap hit, and then it goes down in subsequent years. Cutting or trading Foles this year would give them 12+ M in additional 2017 cap space. So they could use that space now to lock up one of their own FAs or an outside FA. Given that, yes it's possible that they could move on. It's also of course possible that they could try to get him back on track. But either way yes they do have options. .I thought they don't have to pay the base and can spread the dead money over 2 years as long as the player is released after June 1st? His dead cap hit is $8M. That doesn't just disappear does it?Nick Foles deal.Year...Base Salary .......Signing Bonus......Roster Bonus.....Workout Bonus.......Cap Hit.........Dead Cap 2015...$1,022,000 ....... $1,000,000.........$2,000,000...........$20,000..........$4,042,000.....$7,792,0002016...$1,750,000........$1,000,000..........$6,000,000............. - ...............$8,750,000.....$8,000,0002017....$10,750,000......$1,000,000..........$1,500,000............. - ..............$13,250,000....$1,000,000Look at next years base salary and cap hit. He'd have to win the Superbowl to earn that.Perhaps you or one of our resident capologost's could help me with this?When a player is released after June 1, the team’s Cap savings for that year is the player’s Base Salary, while the player’s bonus proration for that year is all that remains to count against the Salary Cap. The balance of the player’s bonus pro-rations will count in the following year.The new CBA signed in 2011 left in place a provision that allows teams to designate two (2) pre-June 1 releases for post-June 1 Salary Cap treatment. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by /zn/ 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 6948 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Re: Mannion, Back to School POST #26 Look at next years base salary and cap hit. He'd have to win the Superbowl to earn that.Perhaps you or one of our resident capologost's could help me with this?Yeah it's simple. It's not guaranteed. That means they can cut or trade him anywhere from now through February 2017 and not owe that money against the 2017 cap. So it's simply not an issue. Plus also, as I explained before, cutting him/trading him now can provide immediate advantages, should they go that way. In other words, it's not simply an issue of taking the 2016 cap hit and that's the end of the story. There's more to it than that. It can supply immediate advantages because the Rams frequently use the 2nd year of a deal to put in a big frontloaded cap hit. That means the more 2017 cap space they have NOW, the more they can use NOW. I just don't see the Foles money as an issue. .... Reply 3 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 26 posts Jul 21 2025
by Neil039 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 2664 Joined: Feb 02 2016 LA Coliseum Superstar Re: Mannion, Back to School POST #24 /zn/ wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Foles carries $8M of dead weight salary on his back with a $1.75M base salary . I think he stays. That $6M roster bonus though....But cutting or trading him DOES give immediate cap advantages. Works this way. Often, the Rams will park the biggest cap hit of a front-loaded contract in the 2nd year, not the 1st year, of a deal. So for example they could sign someone like Johnson, and his 2017 cap hit could be bigger than his 2016 cap hit, and then it goes down in subsequent years. Cutting or trading Foles this year would give them 12+ M in additional 2017 cap space. So they could use that space now to lock up one of their own FAs or an outside FA. Given that, yes it's possible that they could move on. It's also of course possible that they could try to get him back on track. But either way yes they do have options. .Agree with your last line 100%. They do have options. That has become the best part of the off season for most fans including myself. I think the Rams owing Foles 8M this year is far better than an 8-8 season that he was middle of the road. That would have driven his asking price way up, then that mess would have truly stunk it up! The truly educated can listen to any view without losing their temper or self-confidence. by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Mannion, Back to School POST #25 /zn/ wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Foles carries $8M of dead weight salary on his back with a $1.75M base salary . I think he stays. That $6M roster bonus though....But cutting or trading him DOES give immediate cap advantages. Works this way. Often, the Rams will park the biggest cap hit of a front-loaded contract in the 2nd year, not the 1st year, of a deal. So for example they could sign someone like Johnson, and his 2017 cap hit could be bigger than his 2016 cap hit, and then it goes down in subsequent years. Cutting or trading Foles this year would give them 12+ M in additional 2017 cap space. So they could use that space now to lock up one of their own FAs or an outside FA. Given that, yes it's possible that they could move on. It's also of course possible that they could try to get him back on track. But either way yes they do have options. .I thought they don't have to pay the base and can spread the dead money over 2 years as long as the player is released after June 1st? His dead cap hit is $8M. That doesn't just disappear does it?Nick Foles deal.Year...Base Salary .......Signing Bonus......Roster Bonus.....Workout Bonus.......Cap Hit.........Dead Cap 2015...$1,022,000 ....... $1,000,000.........$2,000,000...........$20,000..........$4,042,000.....$7,792,0002016...$1,750,000........$1,000,000..........$6,000,000............. - ...............$8,750,000.....$8,000,0002017....$10,750,000......$1,000,000..........$1,500,000............. - ..............$13,250,000....$1,000,000Look at next years base salary and cap hit. He'd have to win the Superbowl to earn that.Perhaps you or one of our resident capologost's could help me with this?When a player is released after June 1, the team’s Cap savings for that year is the player’s Base Salary, while the player’s bonus proration for that year is all that remains to count against the Salary Cap. The balance of the player’s bonus pro-rations will count in the following year.The new CBA signed in 2011 left in place a provision that allows teams to designate two (2) pre-June 1 releases for post-June 1 Salary Cap treatment. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by /zn/ 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 6948 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Re: Mannion, Back to School POST #26 Look at next years base salary and cap hit. He'd have to win the Superbowl to earn that.Perhaps you or one of our resident capologost's could help me with this?Yeah it's simple. It's not guaranteed. That means they can cut or trade him anywhere from now through February 2017 and not owe that money against the 2017 cap. So it's simply not an issue. Plus also, as I explained before, cutting him/trading him now can provide immediate advantages, should they go that way. In other words, it's not simply an issue of taking the 2016 cap hit and that's the end of the story. There's more to it than that. It can supply immediate advantages because the Rams frequently use the 2nd year of a deal to put in a big frontloaded cap hit. That means the more 2017 cap space they have NOW, the more they can use NOW. I just don't see the Foles money as an issue. .... Reply 3 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 26 posts Jul 21 2025
by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Mannion, Back to School POST #25 /zn/ wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Foles carries $8M of dead weight salary on his back with a $1.75M base salary . I think he stays. That $6M roster bonus though....But cutting or trading him DOES give immediate cap advantages. Works this way. Often, the Rams will park the biggest cap hit of a front-loaded contract in the 2nd year, not the 1st year, of a deal. So for example they could sign someone like Johnson, and his 2017 cap hit could be bigger than his 2016 cap hit, and then it goes down in subsequent years. Cutting or trading Foles this year would give them 12+ M in additional 2017 cap space. So they could use that space now to lock up one of their own FAs or an outside FA. Given that, yes it's possible that they could move on. It's also of course possible that they could try to get him back on track. But either way yes they do have options. .I thought they don't have to pay the base and can spread the dead money over 2 years as long as the player is released after June 1st? His dead cap hit is $8M. That doesn't just disappear does it?Nick Foles deal.Year...Base Salary .......Signing Bonus......Roster Bonus.....Workout Bonus.......Cap Hit.........Dead Cap 2015...$1,022,000 ....... $1,000,000.........$2,000,000...........$20,000..........$4,042,000.....$7,792,0002016...$1,750,000........$1,000,000..........$6,000,000............. - ...............$8,750,000.....$8,000,0002017....$10,750,000......$1,000,000..........$1,500,000............. - ..............$13,250,000....$1,000,000Look at next years base salary and cap hit. He'd have to win the Superbowl to earn that.Perhaps you or one of our resident capologost's could help me with this?When a player is released after June 1, the team’s Cap savings for that year is the player’s Base Salary, while the player’s bonus proration for that year is all that remains to count against the Salary Cap. The balance of the player’s bonus pro-rations will count in the following year.The new CBA signed in 2011 left in place a provision that allows teams to designate two (2) pre-June 1 releases for post-June 1 Salary Cap treatment. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by /zn/ 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 6948 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Re: Mannion, Back to School POST #26 Look at next years base salary and cap hit. He'd have to win the Superbowl to earn that.Perhaps you or one of our resident capologost's could help me with this?Yeah it's simple. It's not guaranteed. That means they can cut or trade him anywhere from now through February 2017 and not owe that money against the 2017 cap. So it's simply not an issue. Plus also, as I explained before, cutting him/trading him now can provide immediate advantages, should they go that way. In other words, it's not simply an issue of taking the 2016 cap hit and that's the end of the story. There's more to it than that. It can supply immediate advantages because the Rams frequently use the 2nd year of a deal to put in a big frontloaded cap hit. That means the more 2017 cap space they have NOW, the more they can use NOW. I just don't see the Foles money as an issue. .... Reply 3 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 26 posts Jul 21 2025
by /zn/ 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 6948 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Re: Mannion, Back to School POST #26 Look at next years base salary and cap hit. He'd have to win the Superbowl to earn that.Perhaps you or one of our resident capologost's could help me with this?Yeah it's simple. It's not guaranteed. That means they can cut or trade him anywhere from now through February 2017 and not owe that money against the 2017 cap. So it's simply not an issue. Plus also, as I explained before, cutting him/trading him now can provide immediate advantages, should they go that way. In other words, it's not simply an issue of taking the 2016 cap hit and that's the end of the story. There's more to it than that. It can supply immediate advantages because the Rams frequently use the 2nd year of a deal to put in a big frontloaded cap hit. That means the more 2017 cap space they have NOW, the more they can use NOW. I just don't see the Foles money as an issue. .... Reply 3 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business