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 by Elvis
8 months 2 weeks ago
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United States of America   Los Angeles
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BobCarl wrote:I'd be totally thrilled with a solid center and Avila playing at LG.


What do you do with Dotson and/or Jonah Jackson in this scenario?

 by PARAM
8 months 2 weeks ago
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Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
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actionjack wrote:Well I think that is being pretty optimistic but I hope you are right. The Rams probably just came off their best draft in the Les Snead era, can you do it again with more capital? IMO they need defenders to be those impact players in the early rounds....


They're going to get a top Edge, DT or CB in the first.
They're going to get one of them in the 2nd.
They're going to get a WR with the first 4 picks.
I'd bet they're going to get another good player in the third.

And they nail the 5th through 7th. So yeah, I'm optimistic but the thing is, after that last draft we don't NEED as much as we did going into the 2023 draft. These guys are on a roll!!!

A Lombardi. An injury filled year. A remodel where they eat dead cap AND make the playoffs doing it. Now this year with a stellar free agency period. Ace the draft, pick up a couple 2nd tier contributors in the second wave of free agency and WIN.

 by 69RamFan
8 months 2 weeks ago
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United States of America   LA CA by way of NY/NJ
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I feel with the RAMs first four picks,

It will be a combination of:

In no particular order,

Edge, CB, DT with the first three picks,

and the fourth pick, C/G combo player.

 by Dare
8 months 2 weeks ago
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United States of America   Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego
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I think Jimmy G signed with the Rams to be on the roster when Stafford retires. To pay Jimmy a max of $12M this year is one hell of a lot for a backup QB. I think Jimmy was signed as a contingency in case they can't grab one of their two or three targeted QBs in the first round. If they have to take a second round QB then they probably see Jimmy as a potential bridge QB for a year. I think being willing to pay Jimmy G that kind of money as a backup is a draft tell. Most assume it simply means they won't be taking a QB early. I look at it the opposite way as a tell the Rams would like to if possible take a QB in the first two rounds.

I have long assumed AD was going to retire at the end of this coming season. This would have been the final year of his contract. Snead can't simply assume Stafford won't also retire at the end of 2024. At max IMO he will play 2 more years. Taking a QB in the first round is important because of that 5th year option. They can afford to sit and develop a QB for two years if they have to. If they draft a QB in the second round and Stafford retires after this year then they have Jimmy G as a bridge if they feel one is necessary.

AD's retirement was simply reinforcement of the reality that they can't afford to get caught unprepared, especially at QB. Just like Turner was drafted as a successor to AD, and Nacua to follow on after Kupp. I think both Kupp and Stafford could retire after this year especially if the Rams make a SB appearance.

I feel that Edge, LT and QB will be their first three picks with the order dependent upon how the draft develops. They have their bridge CB in Williams, and a developmental starter in Durant across from him.

Position wise I can see the draft unfolding like this:

Rd 1 QB
Rd 2 Edge
Rd 3 LT
Rd 3 CB or WR
Rd 5 WR or CB
Rd 5 LB
Rd 5 RB

The rest TBD depending upon how the draft develops. It's very hard to predict exact players because the Rams like drafting from smaller programs like Turner from Wake Forest and Kupp from Eastern Washington. This is IMO one of the secrets to Snead's success.

 by /zn/
8 months 2 weeks ago
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I don't see DT as a "need" above others. They need productive players in the front 7. It terms of their 1st pick, it can be a DE, an edge/LB, or a DT. Maybe even an NT if he's a monster. Whoever is absolutely the best player available at ONE of those positions when they pick, that's their guy.

Then they keep doing that until they have a couple of more to go with the 1st round front 7 guy they will be building around.

I don't see the point of filling DT just to have a DT. Good defense doesn't work that way. In the Rams case, you go for the best, most disruptive front 7 player in round 1 regardless which of the various front 7 positions he plays. If it's not a DT that hardly matters. Take the best front 7 guy you can with pick 1 and then keep adding a couple more.

 by actionjack
8 months 2 weeks ago
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United States of America   Sactown
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Dare wrote:I think Jimmy G signed with the Rams to be on the roster when Stafford retires. To pay Jimmy a max of $12M this year is one hell of a lot for a backup QB. I think Jimmy was signed as a contingency in case they can't grab one of their two or three targeted QBs in the first round. If they have to take a second round QB then they probably see Jimmy as a potential bridge QB for a year. I think being willing to pay Jimmy G that kind of money as a backup is a draft tell. Most assume it simply means they won't be taking a QB early. I look at it the opposite way as a tell the Rams would like to if possible take a QB in the first two rounds.

I have long assumed AD was going to retire at the end of this coming season. This would have been the final year of his contract. Snead can't simply assume Stafford won't also retire at the end of 2024. At max IMO he will play 2 more years. Taking a QB in the first round is important because of that 5th year option. They can afford to sit and develop a QB for two years if they have to. If they draft a QB in the second round and Stafford retires after this year then they have Jimmy G as a bridge if they feel one is necessary.

AD's retirement was simply reinforcement of the reality that they can't afford to get caught unprepared, especially at QB. Just like Turner was drafted as a successor to AD, and Nacua to follow on after Kupp. I think both Kupp and Stafford could retire after this year especially if the Rams make a SB appearance.

I feel that Edge, LT and QB will be their first three picks with the order dependent upon how the draft develops. They have their bridge CB in Williams, and a developmental starter in Durant across from him.

Position wise I can see the draft unfolding like this:

Rd 1 QB
Rd 2 Edge
Rd 3 LT
Rd 3 CB or WR
Rd 5 WR or CB
Rd 5 LB
Rd 5 RB

The rest TBD depending upon how the draft develops. It's very hard to predict exact players because the Rams like drafting from smaller programs like Turner from Wake Forest and Kupp from Eastern Washington. This is IMO one of the secrets to Snead's success.


I dont see the Rams drafting a QB in the first round as the top 4 QB's will be gone in the top 10 picks most likely. I dont see the Rams trading up into that range, too much capital. I could get behind drafting one in the 2nd or 3rd round as I agree Stafford has 2-3 years left.

 by actionjack
8 months 2 weeks ago
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United States of America   Sactown
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/zn/ wrote:I don't see DT as a "need" above others. They need productive players in the front 7. It terms of their 1st pick, it can be a DE, an edge/LB, or a DT. Maybe even an NT if he's a monster. Whoever is absolutely the best player available at ONE of those positions when they pick, that's their guy.

Then they keep doing that until they have a couple of more to go with the 1st round front 7 guy they will be building around.

I don't see the point of filling DT just to have a DT. Good defense doesn't work that way. In the Rams case, you go for the best, most disruptive front 7 player in round 1 regardless which of the various front 7 positions he plays. If it's not a DT that hardly matters. Take the best front 7 guy you can with pick 1 and then keep adding a couple more.


I agree that the Rams will have a "pool" of players at a given draft spot and select the player they feel gives them the most edge. However IMO, they will definitely need to focus on EDGE, DT and CB.

EDGE- we need a starter at RDE (hopefully a vet rotational player at min in FA)
CB -we need a longer CB to start as our DB's are very small. (hope we can bring back Witherspoon too). Our young DB's have shown some flashes but nothing that says they can/should start.
DT- we literally have no one left in this position group

Love to get a QB, ILB, RB somewhere in the middle rounds

 by BobCarl
8 months 2 weeks ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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BobCarl wrote:I'd be totally thrilled with a solid center and Avila playing at LG.


Elvis wrote:What do you do with Dotson and/or Jonah Jackson in this scenario?


I appreciate your challenge. I'm a bit narrow minded with my leaning on the left side of the line ... I totally loved watching Avila at LG .... I want anything possible to leave him there ... but yes, I need to consider the bigger picture.

I'm wrong with wanting the Rams to draft a center in the 1st Round. Dotson and Jackson were signed at their pay grade for a reason.

 by ramman2999
8 months 2 weeks ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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Look at the tape please and tell me what you see in Spencer Ratler. I would say Patrick Mahomes.

Just the compete. The way he competes. The arm strength. The way he throws the ball. The mobility out of his pocket. The way he’s able to scramble.

He has those tools. Let’s look at this full circle. If we really want to have a conversation about it. The top Quarterbacks in this draft are Caleb Williams Drake Maye and Spencer Ratler.


My dream scenario draft is Brock Bowers in round 1 Spencer Ratler in round 2 and Kris Jenkins in round 3.

 by ramman2999
8 months 2 weeks ago
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Yes I think Kris Jenkins can be an Aaron Donald type talent. When you look at the build not fat as a defensive tackle very athletic.

I think 1st round we are eyeing Kool Aid Lai Latu Brock Bowers Jackson Powers Tyler Guyton and Tavion Mitchell

2nd round we are looking at Spencer Ratler. I think Spencer Ratler is the Quarterback we are targeting as the heir apparent to Matthew Stafford.


Joe Milton is intriguing to.

Kris Jenkins would be a great great pickup for us. I also see us targeting Jordan Williams in the second round.

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