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He only appeared to "tank" the games they lost?
If Fisher has the ability to intentionally win 7 games, then he is a genius.
I personally believe his intention is to win every game, but 7 is the best he can get

That's probably true. Sadly.

He just coached so poorly in some of the games they lost that I can only hope he wasn't trying very hard to win them.

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If it comes to light that Kroenke or Fisher or anyone has retarded the offense on purpose for whatever reason, I'm going to be pissed though.

I know some people get thoughts like that. But it doesn't correspond to the reality, IMO. What retarded the OL was primarily injuries to qb, and secondarily injuries to the OL. So to have done it deliberately, the Rams would have had to have known, first, that Bradford would get 2 consecutive injuries to the same knee AND that trading him for Foles would fail because NF would melt down (when in fact nothing in 2014 could be used to predict the 2015 melt down). There are a handful who didn't like Foles at the time of the trade, but there are no consecutive games in complete meltdown mode in 2014...just a couple of lesser games from him, nothing like what happened in 2015.

The OL is obvious. They had a decently effective OL in 2013, it was a mess in 2014, and had to be replaced in 2015. They went (pretty much) all youth with the OL because the "pick your poison" alternative would be to use 2016 and 2017 (and beyond) cap space to sign OL free agents. But of course subtracting 2016 etc. cap space means signing fewer of their own FAs.

They would also have to predict that Quick would get injured in 2014 and not be the same (I think mentally) afterwards.

On top of it, whether or not they had a high home attendance didn't matter to the move effort. What we found out is that the LA project offered the league so much that they overlooked every other consideration.

In any event, it's not that I think they scored 100% on all their offensive moves and then just had bad luck. I don't like the Cook signing and I thought they made a big mistake in 2013 assuming Richardson would work at RB.

But IMO, you provide at least minimally decent qb play from 2013 on---either a never injured Bradford or a non-melted-down Foles, and they would have already made a playoff run or 2. Losing that was circumstances.

Not even Marvel or Bond villains are THAT diabolical, that they could have predicted and counted on those things happening.

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[nighttrain]

Al I have to say is that it sounds Finnegan was bitter with his old coach. He is attacking Fisher's long standing line " I'm all about the football boss, don't know nothin about a possible move" (not exact quote). He used to love Fisher, so even if he really thinks he had this info 3 years ago, why would he undercut his former coach? What he's really saying is " Fish was lying to everyone and you suckers fell for it...I hate him now, so I'm letting you know whats up" (again not an exact quote)

Sour grapes? Don't know why, certainly sounds that way
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Al I have to say is that it sounds Finnegan was bitter with his old coach. He is attacking Fisher's long standing line " I'm all about the football boss, don't know nothin about a possible move" (not exact quote). He used to love Fisher, so even if he really thinks he had this info 3 years ago, why would he undercut his former coach? What he's really saying is " Fish was lying to everyone and you suckers fell for it...I hate him now, so I'm letting you know whats up" (again not an exact quote)

Sour grapes? Don't know why, certainly sounds that way
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They let Finnegan go because he would not get surgery on the eye like they expected.

That's fine with me...I didn't like the attitude CF brought to the secondary. They were much better off without him and doing it GW's way.

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[OldSchool]

I'll combine this thread with the Haden thread and agree that Fisher knew the move was the plan, not necessarily that it would happen. And that Fisher worked it out with Stan that after the move Haden would retire and Fisher would take over for him after the relocation.

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I'll combine this thread with the Haden thread and agree that Fisher knew the move was the plan, not necessarily that it would happen. And that Fisher worked it out with Stan that after the move Haden would retire and Fisher would take over for him after the relocation.

None of the people you mention, though---SK, Haden---have any control over who USC hires as their athletic director.

Plus some of us are fine with Fisher as the Rams HC anyway.


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[max]

Fisher isn't going anywhere at least for a year.

He is gonna have to stink it up (again) before he gets fired. And I think he will if he doesn't produce either a winning record or an entertaining offense.

Keep in mind, cities fire coaches, owners just give them the bad news. LA will not take the abuse that STL did, they have a much bigger soapbox.

[Stranger]

I'll combine this thread with the Haden thread and agree that Fisher knew the move was the plan, not necessarily that it would happen. And that Fisher worked it out with Stan that after the move Haden would retire and Fisher would take over for him after the relocation.

I agree that the cards are falling in quite an extraordinary way right now, which leads me to believe that if certain events happened there were already agreements in place as to how people would react. I'd say Stan never fires Fisher, but that Fisher is offered the AD at USC and decides he just can't pass up the gig after his final season with the Rams. The transition happens seemlessly, and no ones feelings get hurt.

[OldSchool]

I'll combine this thread with the Haden thread and agree that Fisher knew the move was the plan, not necessarily that it would happen. And that Fisher worked it out with Stan that after the move Haden would retire and Fisher would take over for him after the relocation.

I agree that the cards are falling in quite an extraordinary way right now, which leads me to believe that if certain events happened there were already agreements in place as to how people would react. I'd say Stan never fires Fisher, but that Fisher is offered the AD at USC and decides he just can't pass up the gig after his final season with the Rams. The transition happens seemlessly, and no ones feelings get hurt.

This is exactly how I think it was going to play out for a long while now. The timing of Fishers contract ending, with no extension offered, works perfectly with Haden extending for a year now. Just makes too much sense for it not to happen.

I am agreeing with you Max, he won't go anywhere for a year. But this time next year the LA press will be doing two things. Talking about the local boy, USC alum who coached the Rams back to LA and how he's going to rebuild the USC athletics. And talking about the Rams offensive minded new coach and how he'll co-exist with Gregg Williams and his defensive mind who's kept on because he's given the assistant coach title and given free reign on his defense.

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I personally believe his intention is to win every game, but 7 is the best he can get

Higher draft picks? Build an inferior offense until they get to LA? Nah, Fisher is just a solidly mediocre HC. Two years of "OCs" with Cignetti and Boras? Pretty certain no other team thought these guys were credible as OC types. Boras needs a passing assistant coach to make him a more well-rounded OC. Oy, talk about a HC who is out of touch with the current NFL.

4 years with 7 wins and one tie, in year 1, being the highlight of the Fisher experience...someone get a rope.