[Ramsdude]

That's the rub. What defines the best backup possible?

You're dead set that it has to be whoever can play QB the best if called upon but i'm saying that's not the only way of looking at it and your way might even be wrong.

Maybe it's the player who runs the scout team the best, understands the offense the best, helps the starter the most? After all what is the backup's job when the starter is playing? Maybe being good at that is more important? A lot of really good offensive coaches approach it that way including Sean McVay who just won a SB with Wolford as the backup. Who did Peyton Manning ever have as a backup? Drew Brees?

Since in most cases you need an HOF caliber QB to win the SB and are screwed if he goes down for an extended amount of time, maybe other qualities in your backup give you the best chance to win a SB?

It seems like a lot of smart coaches are looking at it that way and i'm inclined to think they're right...

Yes, I could be wrong and you could be right. No biggie!

What defines "the best backup possible" for me is to have the player with the most talent and also potential too.

If you can get better at ANY position, you have to do it.

Things that are not as important to me in a backup...

1) Running the scout team. I don't care how well he does in practice. (In my best Allen Iverson voice: Practice? We talking about Practice???) I care more about what they can do in "real" games when we NEED someone to help us win a few games.

2) Having the "playbook" down pat. That means nothing to me if you can't go out in "real" games and execute the playbook...which IMO, the Wolf looked horrible at the last chance he got.

3) The backup's job while the starter is playing. Again, it means very little to me. If the starter is playing you obviously don't need to worry about the backup performing. If the backup isn't "playing", does it really matter who holds the clipboard? Holding a clipboard is important? You and I could do that! lol

Saying "Sean McVay just won a SB with Wolford as the backup" is the same as saying "Sean McVay just won a SB with little Jimmy as the water boy" or "Sean McVay just won a SB with Tutu Atwell as the backup WR." It's the same impact as neither guy contributed anything in games that counted or to the SB win itself.

It's all good Elvis. I don't care about who is right or who is wrong. It's just my opinion. I am not a coach or an evaluator of NFL talent and don't claim to be. I just go by what my eyes see and my head tells me.

As I said before, let the Wolf COMPETE for the job in the preseason and not be "gifted" the job. If he wins...great. If not, we move on to the next guy.

In the end, we both want the same thing. The Rams to win. If that means having the Wolf as the backup...so be it.

[AvengerRam]

[Ramsdude]

Who's afraid of the "big, bad, Wolf"? Noooooooobody!!!

[snackdaddy]

McVay and Snead built a championship team with their decisions. Do we always agree with their decisions? No we don't. But its not as simple as "Go out and get us the best backup". There's a lot more involved. So when it comes to that position, I'll have to defer to the guys who have a lot more inside knowledge than I do.

[rams74]

McVay and Snead built a championship team with their decisions. Do we always agree with their decisions? No we don't. But its not as simple as "Go out and get us the best backup". There's a lot more involved. So when it comes to that position, I'll have to defer to the guys who have a lot more inside knowledge than I do.

Sometimes, it is as simple as "go out and get the best backup." I mean, isn't that what McVay's grandfather did when he got Steve Young to backup Joe Montana? That move eventually drove Montana out of town, yet it worked out ok for that team. As much as it galls me to admit it.

[FMulder]

McVay and Snead built a championship team with their decisions. Do we always agree with their decisions? No we don't. But its not as simple as "Go out and get us the best backup". There's a lot more involved. So when it comes to that position, I'll have to defer to the guys who have a lot more inside knowledge than I do.

I agree but it wouldn’t hurt to draft a QB who is raw and maybe could develop with good coaching and a good program, at the end of the draft. There are some picks who I swear are cut as soon as they are made. Maybe the guy shows enough to get stashed on the practice squad. It is an important decision. Maybe use one of the 1000 DB picks they used for one.

[Elvis]

I agree but it wouldn’t hurt to draft a QB who is raw and maybe could develop with good coaching and a good program, at the end of the draft. There are some picks who I swear are cut as soon as they are made. Maybe the guy shows enough to get stashed on the practice squad. It is an important decision. Maybe use one of the 1000 DB picks they used for one.

That's another angle: Your backup is the QB of the future. That rarely works, but it does sometimes. Hopefully Stafford is good for 5 years or so. If that pans out there's no way, yet, to plan for who would be next.

Goff was a #1 pick. Stafford was a blockbuster trade, not a lot of subtle under the radar stuff going on with the Rams and their starting QB.

Plus we have 3 QBs now. It's pretty wild that Perkins was on the roster all year but never active and never played.

How's that gonna shake out? Jourdan says Wolford is currently clearly the number 2. Is that gonna change? Are they gonna burn a roster spot again this year with Perkins?

One of the interesting things to watch for sure but as always, the Rams will almost certainly only go as far as Stafford takes them...

[FMulder]

Plus we have 3 QBs now. It's pretty wild that Perkins was on the roster all year but never active and never played.

How's that gonna shake out? Jourdan says Wolford is currently clearly the number 2. Is that gonna change? Are they gonna burn a roster spot again this year with Perkins?

One of the interesting things to watch for sure but as always, the Rams will almost certainly only go as far as Stafford takes them...

Obviously I agree on them going as far as Stafford and his health. I also acknowledge that Wolf is the #2 for this season regardless of what me, and anyone else think. I am also not a Perkins fan per se -but at least they have a diff type of QB.

My whole point is seeing if Perkins takes a step up, which I have no feeling on, or if they invest in a possible new backup QB or next season during the 2023 draft (or UDFA). I just don’t want to see Wolf as the #2 come next year unless he shows me something I’ve been previously missing.

[Hacksaw]

Perkins = a younger poor mans RGIII w/o any zip on the ball. Appeares to be a better athlete than JW though..

The Rams are pushing their luck betting on Stafford's oft proven toughness to last 17 gms every year.

If your team can roll out a guy that can equal / maintain the command and effectiveness of the offense, then the chance for success is higher. I don't think that description describes the current 2nd team guy. Maybe at practice but those don't count .

The most important position requires the most capable backup possible/available, , ,

if affordable.

IMO

[Joe Pendleton]

agreed Hack, if RGIII can still sling it.. i say we get him.. he will give DC's fits trying to game plan for his athleticism, and arm.. (imho)