by jeffsquad 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 373 Joined: May 23 2016 Peoria, AZ Starter RIP John Madden POST #21 BobCarl liked this post RIP to an absolute legend. One of my favorite Madden memories is during the Vikings-Rams 1999 divisional round playoff game on the Rams first play from scrimmage, a 77 yard touchdown strike from Warner to Bruce, while Bruce is running towards the end zone Madden says with glee in his voice “they did it”. Then once Bruce gets to the end zone he says “Amazing. Dick Vermeil told us yesterday that was going to be the first play of the game”. I just loved how tickled and enthused he sounded while talking about it. RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by Hacksaw 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator RIP John Madden POST #22 BobCarl, Joe Pendleton liked this post To me Summeral, Brookshire and Madden (along with NFL films Facenda) are the all time true voices of NFL football. Joe Shmuck and Aikman don't hold a candle. Even the Collinsworth / Michaels combo don't hold a candle to Cosell, Gifford and Meredith on the night broadcasts. Forget about Levy, Griese and Riddick. We had it great as youngsters. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 2 by PARAM 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 13216 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame RIP John Madden POST #23 BobCarl liked this post Back in the late 60's early 70's, I watched a lot of Raider games. I was a Ram fan but prior to DTV, the late games were usually the Rams or the Raiders. Loved Madden. A couple of remarkable facts about Madden.Coached 10 years (103-32-7)8 years in the postseason (9-7)Made it to the Conference Championship Game 6 times!Superbowl Champion in 1976His team failed to win a postseason game in only 1 of the 8 years they made it. In the 7 years he lost in the postseason, he lost to the eventual Superbowl Champs 4 times and twice to the team who lost the Superbowl. And the only loss to a non-SB winner or participant was in 1972 when he lost to the Steelers, two seasons prior to them winning 4 in 6 years. He didn't lose to scrubs. He lost to HOF coaches Hank Stram, Chuck Noll (3 times) and Don Shula. He lost to HOF QBs Len Dawson, John Unitas, Terry Bradshaw and Bob Griese. He lost to defenses with nicknames like "The Steel Curtain" and "The Orange Crush".In the postseason he beat HOF coaches like Chuck Noll (twice), Don Shula (twice), Paul Brown and Bud Grant. Though he lost to Hank Stram the only time they met in the postseason, he faced off against Stram and the Chiefs twice in the regular season from 1969 through 1974 and went 7-3-2. And that was back when that rivalry was at it's peak. A Chiefs/Raiders game was as hard fought as any in the league, twice a year. He was involved in postseason games with nicknames like "The Immaculate Reception" (still contested to this day) and "The Holy Roller". Before there was Tom Brady, there was George Blanda. In 1970 Madden used 42 year old George Blanda in relief of Darryl Lamonica at QB or to kick game winning field goals in five games. Coming off the bench Blanda threw 2 TD passes against Pittsburgh to win 31-14. He drove the Raiders to the winning touchdown in a 24-19 victory over Denver. He kicked a 48 yard FG in the last 3 seconds to tie KC at 17 and kicked a GWFG with 4 seconds left to beat San Diego 20-17. He threw a TD pass and kicked a 52 yarder in the last 3 seconds to beat Cleveland 23-20. Madden used him sparingly but efficiently. Madden was involved in many great games over 10 years as the Raiders head coach. Games that helped make NFL football the #1 sport in America. And as I've listed, he faced Hall of Famers under center and on the sidelines so there weren't any cheap wins. It can't be overstated, he contributed more to football than anybody I can recall. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by SpeedRacer 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 389 Joined: May 31 2016 LA Coliseum Starter RIP John Madden POST #24 BobCarl, Joe Pendleton, Hacksaw liked this post Madden used to say if aliens came to earth and wanted to know what a football player was he’d say, “Someone bring me Jack Youngblood!” Go Rams. RFU Season Ticket Holder 3 by Joe Pendleton 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 2148 Joined: Jun 12 2021 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: RIP John Madden POST #25 Elvis, Hacksaw liked this post i remember this like it was yesterday.. ol' Jack Yongblood.. man, dude was Jacked!!! Hack will attest.. was doing a lifeguard shift in Laguna Beach (our home town), and who comes walking down the main beach boardwalk? JY and the rest of the DL.. it was like the "parting of the red sea" people just moved aside of these large humans, sooo classic! "Haven't you learned the rules of probability and outcome Joe? Aren't you aware that every question of life and death remains a probability until the outcome?" - Mr. Jordan (Heaven can wait) 2 by Joe Pendleton 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 2148 Joined: Jun 12 2021 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: RIP John Madden POST #26 just watched "All Madden" on espn+.. was all time "Haven't you learned the rules of probability and outcome Joe? Aren't you aware that every question of life and death remains a probability until the outcome?" - Mr. Jordan (Heaven can wait) by Elvis 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 41506 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator RIP John Madden POST #27 TOPIC AUTHOR PARAM, Joe Pendleton, Hacksaw liked this post https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/sto ... n-robinsonJohn Madden’s lifelong buddy John Robinson: ‘Just two doofuses from Daly City’BY SAM FARMERSTAFF WRITERDEC. 31, 2021 12:38 PM PTThey became football legends, although not the way they once planned.John Madden and John Robinson rose to prominence as coaches, not players, their lives had intertwined since they met as fifth-graders at Our Lady of Perpetual Help in a neighborhood south of San Francisco.“Just two doofuses from Daly City,” said Robinson, 86, the former USC and Rams coach wistfully repeating a phrase the two pals used often over the course of their nearly 80-year friendship.They met as rival catchers at a youth baseball clinic, each sizing up the other and essentially saying, “Well, I know I can beat out that guy.”They became fast friends, two dreamers dead set on playing professional sports while, in their minds, setting objectives that were realistic and readily reachable.“Our plan was to play for the Yankees and the 49ers,” said Robinson, who was eight months older. “But we weren’t going to play basketball.”Robinson spoke by phone this week from his home in Baton Rouge, La., and reminisced about his lifelong buddy who died unexpectedly Tuesday at 85.“He was a brilliant guy,” Robinson said. “A lot of people miss that about him. His social intelligence — I don’t even know if that’s a word — but understood people. He could look at people and tell you a lot about them. He just had that ability.”Most impressive to Robinson was the way Madden, hired by Al Davis to coach the Oakland Raiders, could keep that collection of renegades in line. At 32, Madden was the youngest head coach in American Football League history.“They were hard to handle,” Robinson said. “And John handled them just as easy as you could a group of choir boys.”Though they would attend different high schools, Madden and Robinson maintained their friendship throughout their teenage years, working as caddies together at the Olympic Club and San Francisco Golf Club, driving around in beat-up cars supplied by Madden’s father, an auto mechanic, and talking endlessly about football.After graduating from Junipero Serra High, the eventual alma mater of Barry Bonds and Tom Brady, Robinson headed to the University of Oregon, where he played end on the 1958 Rose Bowl team.Madden, who attended Jefferson High, had a brief stint with Robinson at Oregon before suffering a knee injury that scuttled his season. The two lived together with four other guys.“John slept and ate a lot,” Robinson said with a chuckle.There were other memories, one of which is now part of Eugene lore. It involved Madden and roommate Jim Bailey, a star on the Oregon track team. A graduate student from Australia, Bailey would go on to run for his country in the Olympics and also became the first man to break the four-minute mile on American soil, in a race at the Los Angeles Coliseum.But on this particular night, Madden broke him.“We were sitting around drinking beer, and I came up with this thing that John Madden could beat Jim Bailey in a race,” Robinson said. “Everybody laughed, Jim laughed. And I said, ‘No, I’m serious.’ ”What started as chatter turned into an excited commotion that spilled out into the street outside the Sigma Chi house at about 1 a.m. Robinson was the hype man.“I was taking bets,” he said. “John and I had about four dollars between us and we had bets out for probably 50 bucks. So I’m coaching John, saying, ‘You’ve got to win this damn thing.’ They walked off a sprint of about 70 yards through the main street of the Oregon campus, and somehow it spread so there were about 150 people watching this race.“John Madden killed him. We wound up with about 40 bucks. We went out and got good sandwiches. Oh, we had a helluva time.”This wasn’t the beefy Madden that America grew to love, but a leaner version.“He had slender legs,” Robinson said. “He had a sprinter’s legs on a big body. He could run. I used to say, ‘John, that’s the highlight of your career right there.’ ”Of course, it was just the beginning. Madden left Oregon and briefly attended College of San Mateo and Grays Harbor College before resuming his playing career at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, where he started on the offensive and defensive lines, as well as playing catcher on the baseball team.The Philadelphia Eagles selected him the 21st round of the 1958 draft, and he spent one season there before a knee injury ended his career.Madden returned to Cal Poly for his master’s degree in education, met his future wife, Virginia, and soon after began his coaching career at Allan Hancock Junior College. Meanwhile, Robinson finished his playing career in 1960 and joined the Oregon staff as an assistant coach. He would stay there until 1971.Robinson and Madden had a pact. Whoever became a head coach first would hire the other as an assistant.But when Madden got the Raiders job in 1969, and offered a position to his pal, Robinson had to turn it down. He had just been promoted to quarterbacks coach at Oregon, and a promising young prospect, future Hall of Famer Dan Fouts, was about to begin his college career.Robinson eventually joined the Raiders for the 1975 season, sandwiched between stints as USC’s offensive coordinator (1972-74) and head coach (1976-82). He coached Oakland’s running backs and rode to and from work with Madden.“He was emotional yet very intellectual as a coach,” Robinson said. “He knew how to press buttons for players. He had a phenomenal ability to keep a team together. They absolutely loved him. John would always say, ‘Show up on time and be ready to play.’ He was the perfect fit for Al Davis, and Al knew it, too. John and Al were two very smart human beings.”In his 10 seasons as coach of the Raiders, Madden guided them to seven Western Division titles, seven seasons with double-digit victories and eight playoff appearances. In 1976, the Raiders capped a 13-1 season with a victory over the Minnesota Vikings in Super Bowl XI at the Rose Bowl.Robinson, who led USC to a national championship in 1978, coached the Rams from 1983-91 and twice reached the NFC title game. His 75 victories are the most in franchise history. He returned to coach USC from 1993-97, and later was coach then athletic director at UNLV, and more recently a consultant for coach Ed Ogeron at Louisiana State.During the 2008 NFL season, when Madden was color analyst for NBC’s “Sunday Night Football,” Robinson traveled with him for several of the games, at times flying to a city and joining him on the “Madden Cruiser” bus to the site of the next game.Madden had a fear of flying and felt claustrophobic in planes. He didn’t even like riding in an elevator with someone else. He and Robinson were able to get a lot of work done on the bus.“We would look at film and get a game plan together,” Robinson said. “He would study individuals, and I would look at a film off to the side a little bit, and then we would come together and talk about the game.”The bus was the height of comfort. For one of them.“He had a great big double bed in the back,” Robinson said. “I slept on a damn chair.”Mealtime underscored just what made Madden the everyman the entire country embraced.“We’d eat at some of the worst restaurants I’d ever seen,” Robinson said. “He’d say, ‘Oh, there’s my kind of place.’ I’d say, ‘John, that’s a hole-in-the-wall.’ For him, that was perfect.“He ate everything he could get his hands on. It was the restaurants that catered to the average Joe. There was no intellectual quality. He just liked the people. He liked when a guy was smoking a cigar when he was cooking in back. That was his kind of place.”Two friends, living the dream.tion RFU Season Ticket Holder 3 by PARAM 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 13216 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame RIP John Madden POST #28 Great piece!! Love the story about the sprint race. And playing for both the Yankees and niners!! "We weren't going to play basketball"!! Priceless!!! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Hacksaw 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: RIP John Madden POST #29 Elvis liked this post Thanks for posting that.. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! 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by Hacksaw 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator RIP John Madden POST #22 BobCarl, Joe Pendleton liked this post To me Summeral, Brookshire and Madden (along with NFL films Facenda) are the all time true voices of NFL football. Joe Shmuck and Aikman don't hold a candle. Even the Collinsworth / Michaels combo don't hold a candle to Cosell, Gifford and Meredith on the night broadcasts. Forget about Levy, Griese and Riddick. We had it great as youngsters. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 2 by PARAM 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 13216 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame RIP John Madden POST #23 BobCarl liked this post Back in the late 60's early 70's, I watched a lot of Raider games. I was a Ram fan but prior to DTV, the late games were usually the Rams or the Raiders. Loved Madden. A couple of remarkable facts about Madden.Coached 10 years (103-32-7)8 years in the postseason (9-7)Made it to the Conference Championship Game 6 times!Superbowl Champion in 1976His team failed to win a postseason game in only 1 of the 8 years they made it. In the 7 years he lost in the postseason, he lost to the eventual Superbowl Champs 4 times and twice to the team who lost the Superbowl. And the only loss to a non-SB winner or participant was in 1972 when he lost to the Steelers, two seasons prior to them winning 4 in 6 years. He didn't lose to scrubs. He lost to HOF coaches Hank Stram, Chuck Noll (3 times) and Don Shula. He lost to HOF QBs Len Dawson, John Unitas, Terry Bradshaw and Bob Griese. He lost to defenses with nicknames like "The Steel Curtain" and "The Orange Crush".In the postseason he beat HOF coaches like Chuck Noll (twice), Don Shula (twice), Paul Brown and Bud Grant. Though he lost to Hank Stram the only time they met in the postseason, he faced off against Stram and the Chiefs twice in the regular season from 1969 through 1974 and went 7-3-2. And that was back when that rivalry was at it's peak. A Chiefs/Raiders game was as hard fought as any in the league, twice a year. He was involved in postseason games with nicknames like "The Immaculate Reception" (still contested to this day) and "The Holy Roller". Before there was Tom Brady, there was George Blanda. In 1970 Madden used 42 year old George Blanda in relief of Darryl Lamonica at QB or to kick game winning field goals in five games. Coming off the bench Blanda threw 2 TD passes against Pittsburgh to win 31-14. He drove the Raiders to the winning touchdown in a 24-19 victory over Denver. He kicked a 48 yard FG in the last 3 seconds to tie KC at 17 and kicked a GWFG with 4 seconds left to beat San Diego 20-17. He threw a TD pass and kicked a 52 yarder in the last 3 seconds to beat Cleveland 23-20. Madden used him sparingly but efficiently. Madden was involved in many great games over 10 years as the Raiders head coach. Games that helped make NFL football the #1 sport in America. And as I've listed, he faced Hall of Famers under center and on the sidelines so there weren't any cheap wins. It can't be overstated, he contributed more to football than anybody I can recall. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by SpeedRacer 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 389 Joined: May 31 2016 LA Coliseum Starter RIP John Madden POST #24 BobCarl, Joe Pendleton, Hacksaw liked this post Madden used to say if aliens came to earth and wanted to know what a football player was he’d say, “Someone bring me Jack Youngblood!” Go Rams. RFU Season Ticket Holder 3 by Joe Pendleton 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 2148 Joined: Jun 12 2021 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: RIP John Madden POST #25 Elvis, Hacksaw liked this post i remember this like it was yesterday.. ol' Jack Yongblood.. man, dude was Jacked!!! Hack will attest.. was doing a lifeguard shift in Laguna Beach (our home town), and who comes walking down the main beach boardwalk? JY and the rest of the DL.. it was like the "parting of the red sea" people just moved aside of these large humans, sooo classic! "Haven't you learned the rules of probability and outcome Joe? Aren't you aware that every question of life and death remains a probability until the outcome?" - Mr. Jordan (Heaven can wait) 2 by Joe Pendleton 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 2148 Joined: Jun 12 2021 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: RIP John Madden POST #26 just watched "All Madden" on espn+.. was all time "Haven't you learned the rules of probability and outcome Joe? Aren't you aware that every question of life and death remains a probability until the outcome?" - Mr. Jordan (Heaven can wait) by Elvis 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 41506 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator RIP John Madden POST #27 TOPIC AUTHOR PARAM, Joe Pendleton, Hacksaw liked this post https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/sto ... n-robinsonJohn Madden’s lifelong buddy John Robinson: ‘Just two doofuses from Daly City’BY SAM FARMERSTAFF WRITERDEC. 31, 2021 12:38 PM PTThey became football legends, although not the way they once planned.John Madden and John Robinson rose to prominence as coaches, not players, their lives had intertwined since they met as fifth-graders at Our Lady of Perpetual Help in a neighborhood south of San Francisco.“Just two doofuses from Daly City,” said Robinson, 86, the former USC and Rams coach wistfully repeating a phrase the two pals used often over the course of their nearly 80-year friendship.They met as rival catchers at a youth baseball clinic, each sizing up the other and essentially saying, “Well, I know I can beat out that guy.”They became fast friends, two dreamers dead set on playing professional sports while, in their minds, setting objectives that were realistic and readily reachable.“Our plan was to play for the Yankees and the 49ers,” said Robinson, who was eight months older. “But we weren’t going to play basketball.”Robinson spoke by phone this week from his home in Baton Rouge, La., and reminisced about his lifelong buddy who died unexpectedly Tuesday at 85.“He was a brilliant guy,” Robinson said. “A lot of people miss that about him. His social intelligence — I don’t even know if that’s a word — but understood people. He could look at people and tell you a lot about them. He just had that ability.”Most impressive to Robinson was the way Madden, hired by Al Davis to coach the Oakland Raiders, could keep that collection of renegades in line. At 32, Madden was the youngest head coach in American Football League history.“They were hard to handle,” Robinson said. “And John handled them just as easy as you could a group of choir boys.”Though they would attend different high schools, Madden and Robinson maintained their friendship throughout their teenage years, working as caddies together at the Olympic Club and San Francisco Golf Club, driving around in beat-up cars supplied by Madden’s father, an auto mechanic, and talking endlessly about football.After graduating from Junipero Serra High, the eventual alma mater of Barry Bonds and Tom Brady, Robinson headed to the University of Oregon, where he played end on the 1958 Rose Bowl team.Madden, who attended Jefferson High, had a brief stint with Robinson at Oregon before suffering a knee injury that scuttled his season. The two lived together with four other guys.“John slept and ate a lot,” Robinson said with a chuckle.There were other memories, one of which is now part of Eugene lore. It involved Madden and roommate Jim Bailey, a star on the Oregon track team. A graduate student from Australia, Bailey would go on to run for his country in the Olympics and also became the first man to break the four-minute mile on American soil, in a race at the Los Angeles Coliseum.But on this particular night, Madden broke him.“We were sitting around drinking beer, and I came up with this thing that John Madden could beat Jim Bailey in a race,” Robinson said. “Everybody laughed, Jim laughed. And I said, ‘No, I’m serious.’ ”What started as chatter turned into an excited commotion that spilled out into the street outside the Sigma Chi house at about 1 a.m. Robinson was the hype man.“I was taking bets,” he said. “John and I had about four dollars between us and we had bets out for probably 50 bucks. So I’m coaching John, saying, ‘You’ve got to win this damn thing.’ They walked off a sprint of about 70 yards through the main street of the Oregon campus, and somehow it spread so there were about 150 people watching this race.“John Madden killed him. We wound up with about 40 bucks. We went out and got good sandwiches. Oh, we had a helluva time.”This wasn’t the beefy Madden that America grew to love, but a leaner version.“He had slender legs,” Robinson said. “He had a sprinter’s legs on a big body. He could run. I used to say, ‘John, that’s the highlight of your career right there.’ ”Of course, it was just the beginning. Madden left Oregon and briefly attended College of San Mateo and Grays Harbor College before resuming his playing career at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, where he started on the offensive and defensive lines, as well as playing catcher on the baseball team.The Philadelphia Eagles selected him the 21st round of the 1958 draft, and he spent one season there before a knee injury ended his career.Madden returned to Cal Poly for his master’s degree in education, met his future wife, Virginia, and soon after began his coaching career at Allan Hancock Junior College. Meanwhile, Robinson finished his playing career in 1960 and joined the Oregon staff as an assistant coach. He would stay there until 1971.Robinson and Madden had a pact. Whoever became a head coach first would hire the other as an assistant.But when Madden got the Raiders job in 1969, and offered a position to his pal, Robinson had to turn it down. He had just been promoted to quarterbacks coach at Oregon, and a promising young prospect, future Hall of Famer Dan Fouts, was about to begin his college career.Robinson eventually joined the Raiders for the 1975 season, sandwiched between stints as USC’s offensive coordinator (1972-74) and head coach (1976-82). He coached Oakland’s running backs and rode to and from work with Madden.“He was emotional yet very intellectual as a coach,” Robinson said. “He knew how to press buttons for players. He had a phenomenal ability to keep a team together. They absolutely loved him. John would always say, ‘Show up on time and be ready to play.’ He was the perfect fit for Al Davis, and Al knew it, too. John and Al were two very smart human beings.”In his 10 seasons as coach of the Raiders, Madden guided them to seven Western Division titles, seven seasons with double-digit victories and eight playoff appearances. In 1976, the Raiders capped a 13-1 season with a victory over the Minnesota Vikings in Super Bowl XI at the Rose Bowl.Robinson, who led USC to a national championship in 1978, coached the Rams from 1983-91 and twice reached the NFC title game. His 75 victories are the most in franchise history. He returned to coach USC from 1993-97, and later was coach then athletic director at UNLV, and more recently a consultant for coach Ed Ogeron at Louisiana State.During the 2008 NFL season, when Madden was color analyst for NBC’s “Sunday Night Football,” Robinson traveled with him for several of the games, at times flying to a city and joining him on the “Madden Cruiser” bus to the site of the next game.Madden had a fear of flying and felt claustrophobic in planes. He didn’t even like riding in an elevator with someone else. He and Robinson were able to get a lot of work done on the bus.“We would look at film and get a game plan together,” Robinson said. “He would study individuals, and I would look at a film off to the side a little bit, and then we would come together and talk about the game.”The bus was the height of comfort. For one of them.“He had a great big double bed in the back,” Robinson said. “I slept on a damn chair.”Mealtime underscored just what made Madden the everyman the entire country embraced.“We’d eat at some of the worst restaurants I’d ever seen,” Robinson said. “He’d say, ‘Oh, there’s my kind of place.’ I’d say, ‘John, that’s a hole-in-the-wall.’ For him, that was perfect.“He ate everything he could get his hands on. It was the restaurants that catered to the average Joe. There was no intellectual quality. He just liked the people. He liked when a guy was smoking a cigar when he was cooking in back. That was his kind of place.”Two friends, living the dream.tion RFU Season Ticket Holder 3 by PARAM 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 13216 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame RIP John Madden POST #28 Great piece!! Love the story about the sprint race. And playing for both the Yankees and niners!! "We weren't going to play basketball"!! Priceless!!! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Hacksaw 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: RIP John Madden POST #29 Elvis liked this post Thanks for posting that.. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! 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by PARAM 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 13216 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame RIP John Madden POST #23 BobCarl liked this post Back in the late 60's early 70's, I watched a lot of Raider games. I was a Ram fan but prior to DTV, the late games were usually the Rams or the Raiders. Loved Madden. A couple of remarkable facts about Madden.Coached 10 years (103-32-7)8 years in the postseason (9-7)Made it to the Conference Championship Game 6 times!Superbowl Champion in 1976His team failed to win a postseason game in only 1 of the 8 years they made it. In the 7 years he lost in the postseason, he lost to the eventual Superbowl Champs 4 times and twice to the team who lost the Superbowl. And the only loss to a non-SB winner or participant was in 1972 when he lost to the Steelers, two seasons prior to them winning 4 in 6 years. He didn't lose to scrubs. He lost to HOF coaches Hank Stram, Chuck Noll (3 times) and Don Shula. He lost to HOF QBs Len Dawson, John Unitas, Terry Bradshaw and Bob Griese. He lost to defenses with nicknames like "The Steel Curtain" and "The Orange Crush".In the postseason he beat HOF coaches like Chuck Noll (twice), Don Shula (twice), Paul Brown and Bud Grant. Though he lost to Hank Stram the only time they met in the postseason, he faced off against Stram and the Chiefs twice in the regular season from 1969 through 1974 and went 7-3-2. And that was back when that rivalry was at it's peak. A Chiefs/Raiders game was as hard fought as any in the league, twice a year. He was involved in postseason games with nicknames like "The Immaculate Reception" (still contested to this day) and "The Holy Roller". Before there was Tom Brady, there was George Blanda. In 1970 Madden used 42 year old George Blanda in relief of Darryl Lamonica at QB or to kick game winning field goals in five games. Coming off the bench Blanda threw 2 TD passes against Pittsburgh to win 31-14. He drove the Raiders to the winning touchdown in a 24-19 victory over Denver. He kicked a 48 yard FG in the last 3 seconds to tie KC at 17 and kicked a GWFG with 4 seconds left to beat San Diego 20-17. He threw a TD pass and kicked a 52 yarder in the last 3 seconds to beat Cleveland 23-20. Madden used him sparingly but efficiently. Madden was involved in many great games over 10 years as the Raiders head coach. Games that helped make NFL football the #1 sport in America. And as I've listed, he faced Hall of Famers under center and on the sidelines so there weren't any cheap wins. It can't be overstated, he contributed more to football than anybody I can recall. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by SpeedRacer 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 389 Joined: May 31 2016 LA Coliseum Starter RIP John Madden POST #24 BobCarl, Joe Pendleton, Hacksaw liked this post Madden used to say if aliens came to earth and wanted to know what a football player was he’d say, “Someone bring me Jack Youngblood!” Go Rams. RFU Season Ticket Holder 3 by Joe Pendleton 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 2148 Joined: Jun 12 2021 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: RIP John Madden POST #25 Elvis, Hacksaw liked this post i remember this like it was yesterday.. ol' Jack Yongblood.. man, dude was Jacked!!! Hack will attest.. was doing a lifeguard shift in Laguna Beach (our home town), and who comes walking down the main beach boardwalk? JY and the rest of the DL.. it was like the "parting of the red sea" people just moved aside of these large humans, sooo classic! "Haven't you learned the rules of probability and outcome Joe? Aren't you aware that every question of life and death remains a probability until the outcome?" - Mr. Jordan (Heaven can wait) 2 by Joe Pendleton 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 2148 Joined: Jun 12 2021 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: RIP John Madden POST #26 just watched "All Madden" on espn+.. was all time "Haven't you learned the rules of probability and outcome Joe? Aren't you aware that every question of life and death remains a probability until the outcome?" - Mr. Jordan (Heaven can wait) by Elvis 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 41506 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator RIP John Madden POST #27 TOPIC AUTHOR PARAM, Joe Pendleton, Hacksaw liked this post https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/sto ... n-robinsonJohn Madden’s lifelong buddy John Robinson: ‘Just two doofuses from Daly City’BY SAM FARMERSTAFF WRITERDEC. 31, 2021 12:38 PM PTThey became football legends, although not the way they once planned.John Madden and John Robinson rose to prominence as coaches, not players, their lives had intertwined since they met as fifth-graders at Our Lady of Perpetual Help in a neighborhood south of San Francisco.“Just two doofuses from Daly City,” said Robinson, 86, the former USC and Rams coach wistfully repeating a phrase the two pals used often over the course of their nearly 80-year friendship.They met as rival catchers at a youth baseball clinic, each sizing up the other and essentially saying, “Well, I know I can beat out that guy.”They became fast friends, two dreamers dead set on playing professional sports while, in their minds, setting objectives that were realistic and readily reachable.“Our plan was to play for the Yankees and the 49ers,” said Robinson, who was eight months older. “But we weren’t going to play basketball.”Robinson spoke by phone this week from his home in Baton Rouge, La., and reminisced about his lifelong buddy who died unexpectedly Tuesday at 85.“He was a brilliant guy,” Robinson said. “A lot of people miss that about him. His social intelligence — I don’t even know if that’s a word — but understood people. He could look at people and tell you a lot about them. He just had that ability.”Most impressive to Robinson was the way Madden, hired by Al Davis to coach the Oakland Raiders, could keep that collection of renegades in line. At 32, Madden was the youngest head coach in American Football League history.“They were hard to handle,” Robinson said. “And John handled them just as easy as you could a group of choir boys.”Though they would attend different high schools, Madden and Robinson maintained their friendship throughout their teenage years, working as caddies together at the Olympic Club and San Francisco Golf Club, driving around in beat-up cars supplied by Madden’s father, an auto mechanic, and talking endlessly about football.After graduating from Junipero Serra High, the eventual alma mater of Barry Bonds and Tom Brady, Robinson headed to the University of Oregon, where he played end on the 1958 Rose Bowl team.Madden, who attended Jefferson High, had a brief stint with Robinson at Oregon before suffering a knee injury that scuttled his season. The two lived together with four other guys.“John slept and ate a lot,” Robinson said with a chuckle.There were other memories, one of which is now part of Eugene lore. It involved Madden and roommate Jim Bailey, a star on the Oregon track team. A graduate student from Australia, Bailey would go on to run for his country in the Olympics and also became the first man to break the four-minute mile on American soil, in a race at the Los Angeles Coliseum.But on this particular night, Madden broke him.“We were sitting around drinking beer, and I came up with this thing that John Madden could beat Jim Bailey in a race,” Robinson said. “Everybody laughed, Jim laughed. And I said, ‘No, I’m serious.’ ”What started as chatter turned into an excited commotion that spilled out into the street outside the Sigma Chi house at about 1 a.m. Robinson was the hype man.“I was taking bets,” he said. “John and I had about four dollars between us and we had bets out for probably 50 bucks. So I’m coaching John, saying, ‘You’ve got to win this damn thing.’ They walked off a sprint of about 70 yards through the main street of the Oregon campus, and somehow it spread so there were about 150 people watching this race.“John Madden killed him. We wound up with about 40 bucks. We went out and got good sandwiches. Oh, we had a helluva time.”This wasn’t the beefy Madden that America grew to love, but a leaner version.“He had slender legs,” Robinson said. “He had a sprinter’s legs on a big body. He could run. I used to say, ‘John, that’s the highlight of your career right there.’ ”Of course, it was just the beginning. Madden left Oregon and briefly attended College of San Mateo and Grays Harbor College before resuming his playing career at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, where he started on the offensive and defensive lines, as well as playing catcher on the baseball team.The Philadelphia Eagles selected him the 21st round of the 1958 draft, and he spent one season there before a knee injury ended his career.Madden returned to Cal Poly for his master’s degree in education, met his future wife, Virginia, and soon after began his coaching career at Allan Hancock Junior College. Meanwhile, Robinson finished his playing career in 1960 and joined the Oregon staff as an assistant coach. He would stay there until 1971.Robinson and Madden had a pact. Whoever became a head coach first would hire the other as an assistant.But when Madden got the Raiders job in 1969, and offered a position to his pal, Robinson had to turn it down. He had just been promoted to quarterbacks coach at Oregon, and a promising young prospect, future Hall of Famer Dan Fouts, was about to begin his college career.Robinson eventually joined the Raiders for the 1975 season, sandwiched between stints as USC’s offensive coordinator (1972-74) and head coach (1976-82). He coached Oakland’s running backs and rode to and from work with Madden.“He was emotional yet very intellectual as a coach,” Robinson said. “He knew how to press buttons for players. He had a phenomenal ability to keep a team together. They absolutely loved him. John would always say, ‘Show up on time and be ready to play.’ He was the perfect fit for Al Davis, and Al knew it, too. John and Al were two very smart human beings.”In his 10 seasons as coach of the Raiders, Madden guided them to seven Western Division titles, seven seasons with double-digit victories and eight playoff appearances. In 1976, the Raiders capped a 13-1 season with a victory over the Minnesota Vikings in Super Bowl XI at the Rose Bowl.Robinson, who led USC to a national championship in 1978, coached the Rams from 1983-91 and twice reached the NFC title game. His 75 victories are the most in franchise history. He returned to coach USC from 1993-97, and later was coach then athletic director at UNLV, and more recently a consultant for coach Ed Ogeron at Louisiana State.During the 2008 NFL season, when Madden was color analyst for NBC’s “Sunday Night Football,” Robinson traveled with him for several of the games, at times flying to a city and joining him on the “Madden Cruiser” bus to the site of the next game.Madden had a fear of flying and felt claustrophobic in planes. He didn’t even like riding in an elevator with someone else. He and Robinson were able to get a lot of work done on the bus.“We would look at film and get a game plan together,” Robinson said. “He would study individuals, and I would look at a film off to the side a little bit, and then we would come together and talk about the game.”The bus was the height of comfort. For one of them.“He had a great big double bed in the back,” Robinson said. “I slept on a damn chair.”Mealtime underscored just what made Madden the everyman the entire country embraced.“We’d eat at some of the worst restaurants I’d ever seen,” Robinson said. “He’d say, ‘Oh, there’s my kind of place.’ I’d say, ‘John, that’s a hole-in-the-wall.’ For him, that was perfect.“He ate everything he could get his hands on. It was the restaurants that catered to the average Joe. There was no intellectual quality. He just liked the people. He liked when a guy was smoking a cigar when he was cooking in back. That was his kind of place.”Two friends, living the dream.tion RFU Season Ticket Holder 3 by PARAM 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 13216 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame RIP John Madden POST #28 Great piece!! Love the story about the sprint race. And playing for both the Yankees and niners!! "We weren't going to play basketball"!! Priceless!!! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Hacksaw 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: RIP John Madden POST #29 Elvis liked this post Thanks for posting that.. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! 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by SpeedRacer 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 389 Joined: May 31 2016 LA Coliseum Starter RIP John Madden POST #24 BobCarl, Joe Pendleton, Hacksaw liked this post Madden used to say if aliens came to earth and wanted to know what a football player was he’d say, “Someone bring me Jack Youngblood!” Go Rams. RFU Season Ticket Holder 3 by Joe Pendleton 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 2148 Joined: Jun 12 2021 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: RIP John Madden POST #25 Elvis, Hacksaw liked this post i remember this like it was yesterday.. ol' Jack Yongblood.. man, dude was Jacked!!! Hack will attest.. was doing a lifeguard shift in Laguna Beach (our home town), and who comes walking down the main beach boardwalk? JY and the rest of the DL.. it was like the "parting of the red sea" people just moved aside of these large humans, sooo classic! "Haven't you learned the rules of probability and outcome Joe? Aren't you aware that every question of life and death remains a probability until the outcome?" - Mr. Jordan (Heaven can wait) 2 by Joe Pendleton 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 2148 Joined: Jun 12 2021 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: RIP John Madden POST #26 just watched "All Madden" on espn+.. was all time "Haven't you learned the rules of probability and outcome Joe? Aren't you aware that every question of life and death remains a probability until the outcome?" - Mr. Jordan (Heaven can wait) by Elvis 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 41506 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator RIP John Madden POST #27 TOPIC AUTHOR PARAM, Joe Pendleton, Hacksaw liked this post https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/sto ... n-robinsonJohn Madden’s lifelong buddy John Robinson: ‘Just two doofuses from Daly City’BY SAM FARMERSTAFF WRITERDEC. 31, 2021 12:38 PM PTThey became football legends, although not the way they once planned.John Madden and John Robinson rose to prominence as coaches, not players, their lives had intertwined since they met as fifth-graders at Our Lady of Perpetual Help in a neighborhood south of San Francisco.“Just two doofuses from Daly City,” said Robinson, 86, the former USC and Rams coach wistfully repeating a phrase the two pals used often over the course of their nearly 80-year friendship.They met as rival catchers at a youth baseball clinic, each sizing up the other and essentially saying, “Well, I know I can beat out that guy.”They became fast friends, two dreamers dead set on playing professional sports while, in their minds, setting objectives that were realistic and readily reachable.“Our plan was to play for the Yankees and the 49ers,” said Robinson, who was eight months older. “But we weren’t going to play basketball.”Robinson spoke by phone this week from his home in Baton Rouge, La., and reminisced about his lifelong buddy who died unexpectedly Tuesday at 85.“He was a brilliant guy,” Robinson said. “A lot of people miss that about him. His social intelligence — I don’t even know if that’s a word — but understood people. He could look at people and tell you a lot about them. He just had that ability.”Most impressive to Robinson was the way Madden, hired by Al Davis to coach the Oakland Raiders, could keep that collection of renegades in line. At 32, Madden was the youngest head coach in American Football League history.“They were hard to handle,” Robinson said. “And John handled them just as easy as you could a group of choir boys.”Though they would attend different high schools, Madden and Robinson maintained their friendship throughout their teenage years, working as caddies together at the Olympic Club and San Francisco Golf Club, driving around in beat-up cars supplied by Madden’s father, an auto mechanic, and talking endlessly about football.After graduating from Junipero Serra High, the eventual alma mater of Barry Bonds and Tom Brady, Robinson headed to the University of Oregon, where he played end on the 1958 Rose Bowl team.Madden, who attended Jefferson High, had a brief stint with Robinson at Oregon before suffering a knee injury that scuttled his season. The two lived together with four other guys.“John slept and ate a lot,” Robinson said with a chuckle.There were other memories, one of which is now part of Eugene lore. It involved Madden and roommate Jim Bailey, a star on the Oregon track team. A graduate student from Australia, Bailey would go on to run for his country in the Olympics and also became the first man to break the four-minute mile on American soil, in a race at the Los Angeles Coliseum.But on this particular night, Madden broke him.“We were sitting around drinking beer, and I came up with this thing that John Madden could beat Jim Bailey in a race,” Robinson said. “Everybody laughed, Jim laughed. And I said, ‘No, I’m serious.’ ”What started as chatter turned into an excited commotion that spilled out into the street outside the Sigma Chi house at about 1 a.m. Robinson was the hype man.“I was taking bets,” he said. “John and I had about four dollars between us and we had bets out for probably 50 bucks. So I’m coaching John, saying, ‘You’ve got to win this damn thing.’ They walked off a sprint of about 70 yards through the main street of the Oregon campus, and somehow it spread so there were about 150 people watching this race.“John Madden killed him. We wound up with about 40 bucks. We went out and got good sandwiches. Oh, we had a helluva time.”This wasn’t the beefy Madden that America grew to love, but a leaner version.“He had slender legs,” Robinson said. “He had a sprinter’s legs on a big body. He could run. I used to say, ‘John, that’s the highlight of your career right there.’ ”Of course, it was just the beginning. Madden left Oregon and briefly attended College of San Mateo and Grays Harbor College before resuming his playing career at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, where he started on the offensive and defensive lines, as well as playing catcher on the baseball team.The Philadelphia Eagles selected him the 21st round of the 1958 draft, and he spent one season there before a knee injury ended his career.Madden returned to Cal Poly for his master’s degree in education, met his future wife, Virginia, and soon after began his coaching career at Allan Hancock Junior College. Meanwhile, Robinson finished his playing career in 1960 and joined the Oregon staff as an assistant coach. He would stay there until 1971.Robinson and Madden had a pact. Whoever became a head coach first would hire the other as an assistant.But when Madden got the Raiders job in 1969, and offered a position to his pal, Robinson had to turn it down. He had just been promoted to quarterbacks coach at Oregon, and a promising young prospect, future Hall of Famer Dan Fouts, was about to begin his college career.Robinson eventually joined the Raiders for the 1975 season, sandwiched between stints as USC’s offensive coordinator (1972-74) and head coach (1976-82). He coached Oakland’s running backs and rode to and from work with Madden.“He was emotional yet very intellectual as a coach,” Robinson said. “He knew how to press buttons for players. He had a phenomenal ability to keep a team together. They absolutely loved him. John would always say, ‘Show up on time and be ready to play.’ He was the perfect fit for Al Davis, and Al knew it, too. John and Al were two very smart human beings.”In his 10 seasons as coach of the Raiders, Madden guided them to seven Western Division titles, seven seasons with double-digit victories and eight playoff appearances. In 1976, the Raiders capped a 13-1 season with a victory over the Minnesota Vikings in Super Bowl XI at the Rose Bowl.Robinson, who led USC to a national championship in 1978, coached the Rams from 1983-91 and twice reached the NFC title game. His 75 victories are the most in franchise history. He returned to coach USC from 1993-97, and later was coach then athletic director at UNLV, and more recently a consultant for coach Ed Ogeron at Louisiana State.During the 2008 NFL season, when Madden was color analyst for NBC’s “Sunday Night Football,” Robinson traveled with him for several of the games, at times flying to a city and joining him on the “Madden Cruiser” bus to the site of the next game.Madden had a fear of flying and felt claustrophobic in planes. He didn’t even like riding in an elevator with someone else. He and Robinson were able to get a lot of work done on the bus.“We would look at film and get a game plan together,” Robinson said. “He would study individuals, and I would look at a film off to the side a little bit, and then we would come together and talk about the game.”The bus was the height of comfort. For one of them.“He had a great big double bed in the back,” Robinson said. “I slept on a damn chair.”Mealtime underscored just what made Madden the everyman the entire country embraced.“We’d eat at some of the worst restaurants I’d ever seen,” Robinson said. “He’d say, ‘Oh, there’s my kind of place.’ I’d say, ‘John, that’s a hole-in-the-wall.’ For him, that was perfect.“He ate everything he could get his hands on. It was the restaurants that catered to the average Joe. There was no intellectual quality. He just liked the people. He liked when a guy was smoking a cigar when he was cooking in back. That was his kind of place.”Two friends, living the dream.tion RFU Season Ticket Holder 3 by PARAM 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 13216 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame RIP John Madden POST #28 Great piece!! Love the story about the sprint race. And playing for both the Yankees and niners!! "We weren't going to play basketball"!! Priceless!!! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Hacksaw 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: RIP John Madden POST #29 Elvis liked this post Thanks for posting that.. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! 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by Joe Pendleton 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 2148 Joined: Jun 12 2021 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: RIP John Madden POST #25 Elvis, Hacksaw liked this post i remember this like it was yesterday.. ol' Jack Yongblood.. man, dude was Jacked!!! Hack will attest.. was doing a lifeguard shift in Laguna Beach (our home town), and who comes walking down the main beach boardwalk? JY and the rest of the DL.. it was like the "parting of the red sea" people just moved aside of these large humans, sooo classic! "Haven't you learned the rules of probability and outcome Joe? Aren't you aware that every question of life and death remains a probability until the outcome?" - Mr. Jordan (Heaven can wait) 2 by Joe Pendleton 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 2148 Joined: Jun 12 2021 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: RIP John Madden POST #26 just watched "All Madden" on espn+.. was all time "Haven't you learned the rules of probability and outcome Joe? Aren't you aware that every question of life and death remains a probability until the outcome?" - Mr. Jordan (Heaven can wait) by Elvis 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 41506 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator RIP John Madden POST #27 TOPIC AUTHOR PARAM, Joe Pendleton, Hacksaw liked this post https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/sto ... n-robinsonJohn Madden’s lifelong buddy John Robinson: ‘Just two doofuses from Daly City’BY SAM FARMERSTAFF WRITERDEC. 31, 2021 12:38 PM PTThey became football legends, although not the way they once planned.John Madden and John Robinson rose to prominence as coaches, not players, their lives had intertwined since they met as fifth-graders at Our Lady of Perpetual Help in a neighborhood south of San Francisco.“Just two doofuses from Daly City,” said Robinson, 86, the former USC and Rams coach wistfully repeating a phrase the two pals used often over the course of their nearly 80-year friendship.They met as rival catchers at a youth baseball clinic, each sizing up the other and essentially saying, “Well, I know I can beat out that guy.”They became fast friends, two dreamers dead set on playing professional sports while, in their minds, setting objectives that were realistic and readily reachable.“Our plan was to play for the Yankees and the 49ers,” said Robinson, who was eight months older. “But we weren’t going to play basketball.”Robinson spoke by phone this week from his home in Baton Rouge, La., and reminisced about his lifelong buddy who died unexpectedly Tuesday at 85.“He was a brilliant guy,” Robinson said. “A lot of people miss that about him. His social intelligence — I don’t even know if that’s a word — but understood people. He could look at people and tell you a lot about them. He just had that ability.”Most impressive to Robinson was the way Madden, hired by Al Davis to coach the Oakland Raiders, could keep that collection of renegades in line. At 32, Madden was the youngest head coach in American Football League history.“They were hard to handle,” Robinson said. “And John handled them just as easy as you could a group of choir boys.”Though they would attend different high schools, Madden and Robinson maintained their friendship throughout their teenage years, working as caddies together at the Olympic Club and San Francisco Golf Club, driving around in beat-up cars supplied by Madden’s father, an auto mechanic, and talking endlessly about football.After graduating from Junipero Serra High, the eventual alma mater of Barry Bonds and Tom Brady, Robinson headed to the University of Oregon, where he played end on the 1958 Rose Bowl team.Madden, who attended Jefferson High, had a brief stint with Robinson at Oregon before suffering a knee injury that scuttled his season. The two lived together with four other guys.“John slept and ate a lot,” Robinson said with a chuckle.There were other memories, one of which is now part of Eugene lore. It involved Madden and roommate Jim Bailey, a star on the Oregon track team. A graduate student from Australia, Bailey would go on to run for his country in the Olympics and also became the first man to break the four-minute mile on American soil, in a race at the Los Angeles Coliseum.But on this particular night, Madden broke him.“We were sitting around drinking beer, and I came up with this thing that John Madden could beat Jim Bailey in a race,” Robinson said. “Everybody laughed, Jim laughed. And I said, ‘No, I’m serious.’ ”What started as chatter turned into an excited commotion that spilled out into the street outside the Sigma Chi house at about 1 a.m. Robinson was the hype man.“I was taking bets,” he said. “John and I had about four dollars between us and we had bets out for probably 50 bucks. So I’m coaching John, saying, ‘You’ve got to win this damn thing.’ They walked off a sprint of about 70 yards through the main street of the Oregon campus, and somehow it spread so there were about 150 people watching this race.“John Madden killed him. We wound up with about 40 bucks. We went out and got good sandwiches. Oh, we had a helluva time.”This wasn’t the beefy Madden that America grew to love, but a leaner version.“He had slender legs,” Robinson said. “He had a sprinter’s legs on a big body. He could run. I used to say, ‘John, that’s the highlight of your career right there.’ ”Of course, it was just the beginning. Madden left Oregon and briefly attended College of San Mateo and Grays Harbor College before resuming his playing career at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, where he started on the offensive and defensive lines, as well as playing catcher on the baseball team.The Philadelphia Eagles selected him the 21st round of the 1958 draft, and he spent one season there before a knee injury ended his career.Madden returned to Cal Poly for his master’s degree in education, met his future wife, Virginia, and soon after began his coaching career at Allan Hancock Junior College. Meanwhile, Robinson finished his playing career in 1960 and joined the Oregon staff as an assistant coach. He would stay there until 1971.Robinson and Madden had a pact. Whoever became a head coach first would hire the other as an assistant.But when Madden got the Raiders job in 1969, and offered a position to his pal, Robinson had to turn it down. He had just been promoted to quarterbacks coach at Oregon, and a promising young prospect, future Hall of Famer Dan Fouts, was about to begin his college career.Robinson eventually joined the Raiders for the 1975 season, sandwiched between stints as USC’s offensive coordinator (1972-74) and head coach (1976-82). He coached Oakland’s running backs and rode to and from work with Madden.“He was emotional yet very intellectual as a coach,” Robinson said. “He knew how to press buttons for players. He had a phenomenal ability to keep a team together. They absolutely loved him. John would always say, ‘Show up on time and be ready to play.’ He was the perfect fit for Al Davis, and Al knew it, too. John and Al were two very smart human beings.”In his 10 seasons as coach of the Raiders, Madden guided them to seven Western Division titles, seven seasons with double-digit victories and eight playoff appearances. In 1976, the Raiders capped a 13-1 season with a victory over the Minnesota Vikings in Super Bowl XI at the Rose Bowl.Robinson, who led USC to a national championship in 1978, coached the Rams from 1983-91 and twice reached the NFC title game. His 75 victories are the most in franchise history. He returned to coach USC from 1993-97, and later was coach then athletic director at UNLV, and more recently a consultant for coach Ed Ogeron at Louisiana State.During the 2008 NFL season, when Madden was color analyst for NBC’s “Sunday Night Football,” Robinson traveled with him for several of the games, at times flying to a city and joining him on the “Madden Cruiser” bus to the site of the next game.Madden had a fear of flying and felt claustrophobic in planes. He didn’t even like riding in an elevator with someone else. He and Robinson were able to get a lot of work done on the bus.“We would look at film and get a game plan together,” Robinson said. “He would study individuals, and I would look at a film off to the side a little bit, and then we would come together and talk about the game.”The bus was the height of comfort. For one of them.“He had a great big double bed in the back,” Robinson said. “I slept on a damn chair.”Mealtime underscored just what made Madden the everyman the entire country embraced.“We’d eat at some of the worst restaurants I’d ever seen,” Robinson said. “He’d say, ‘Oh, there’s my kind of place.’ I’d say, ‘John, that’s a hole-in-the-wall.’ For him, that was perfect.“He ate everything he could get his hands on. It was the restaurants that catered to the average Joe. There was no intellectual quality. He just liked the people. He liked when a guy was smoking a cigar when he was cooking in back. That was his kind of place.”Two friends, living the dream.tion RFU Season Ticket Holder 3 by PARAM 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 13216 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame RIP John Madden POST #28 Great piece!! Love the story about the sprint race. And playing for both the Yankees and niners!! "We weren't going to play basketball"!! Priceless!!! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Hacksaw 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: RIP John Madden POST #29 Elvis liked this post Thanks for posting that.. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! 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by Joe Pendleton 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 2148 Joined: Jun 12 2021 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: RIP John Madden POST #26 just watched "All Madden" on espn+.. was all time "Haven't you learned the rules of probability and outcome Joe? Aren't you aware that every question of life and death remains a probability until the outcome?" - Mr. Jordan (Heaven can wait) by Elvis 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 41506 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator RIP John Madden POST #27 TOPIC AUTHOR PARAM, Joe Pendleton, Hacksaw liked this post https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/sto ... n-robinsonJohn Madden’s lifelong buddy John Robinson: ‘Just two doofuses from Daly City’BY SAM FARMERSTAFF WRITERDEC. 31, 2021 12:38 PM PTThey became football legends, although not the way they once planned.John Madden and John Robinson rose to prominence as coaches, not players, their lives had intertwined since they met as fifth-graders at Our Lady of Perpetual Help in a neighborhood south of San Francisco.“Just two doofuses from Daly City,” said Robinson, 86, the former USC and Rams coach wistfully repeating a phrase the two pals used often over the course of their nearly 80-year friendship.They met as rival catchers at a youth baseball clinic, each sizing up the other and essentially saying, “Well, I know I can beat out that guy.”They became fast friends, two dreamers dead set on playing professional sports while, in their minds, setting objectives that were realistic and readily reachable.“Our plan was to play for the Yankees and the 49ers,” said Robinson, who was eight months older. “But we weren’t going to play basketball.”Robinson spoke by phone this week from his home in Baton Rouge, La., and reminisced about his lifelong buddy who died unexpectedly Tuesday at 85.“He was a brilliant guy,” Robinson said. “A lot of people miss that about him. His social intelligence — I don’t even know if that’s a word — but understood people. He could look at people and tell you a lot about them. He just had that ability.”Most impressive to Robinson was the way Madden, hired by Al Davis to coach the Oakland Raiders, could keep that collection of renegades in line. At 32, Madden was the youngest head coach in American Football League history.“They were hard to handle,” Robinson said. “And John handled them just as easy as you could a group of choir boys.”Though they would attend different high schools, Madden and Robinson maintained their friendship throughout their teenage years, working as caddies together at the Olympic Club and San Francisco Golf Club, driving around in beat-up cars supplied by Madden’s father, an auto mechanic, and talking endlessly about football.After graduating from Junipero Serra High, the eventual alma mater of Barry Bonds and Tom Brady, Robinson headed to the University of Oregon, where he played end on the 1958 Rose Bowl team.Madden, who attended Jefferson High, had a brief stint with Robinson at Oregon before suffering a knee injury that scuttled his season. The two lived together with four other guys.“John slept and ate a lot,” Robinson said with a chuckle.There were other memories, one of which is now part of Eugene lore. It involved Madden and roommate Jim Bailey, a star on the Oregon track team. A graduate student from Australia, Bailey would go on to run for his country in the Olympics and also became the first man to break the four-minute mile on American soil, in a race at the Los Angeles Coliseum.But on this particular night, Madden broke him.“We were sitting around drinking beer, and I came up with this thing that John Madden could beat Jim Bailey in a race,” Robinson said. “Everybody laughed, Jim laughed. And I said, ‘No, I’m serious.’ ”What started as chatter turned into an excited commotion that spilled out into the street outside the Sigma Chi house at about 1 a.m. Robinson was the hype man.“I was taking bets,” he said. “John and I had about four dollars between us and we had bets out for probably 50 bucks. So I’m coaching John, saying, ‘You’ve got to win this damn thing.’ They walked off a sprint of about 70 yards through the main street of the Oregon campus, and somehow it spread so there were about 150 people watching this race.“John Madden killed him. We wound up with about 40 bucks. We went out and got good sandwiches. Oh, we had a helluva time.”This wasn’t the beefy Madden that America grew to love, but a leaner version.“He had slender legs,” Robinson said. “He had a sprinter’s legs on a big body. He could run. I used to say, ‘John, that’s the highlight of your career right there.’ ”Of course, it was just the beginning. Madden left Oregon and briefly attended College of San Mateo and Grays Harbor College before resuming his playing career at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, where he started on the offensive and defensive lines, as well as playing catcher on the baseball team.The Philadelphia Eagles selected him the 21st round of the 1958 draft, and he spent one season there before a knee injury ended his career.Madden returned to Cal Poly for his master’s degree in education, met his future wife, Virginia, and soon after began his coaching career at Allan Hancock Junior College. Meanwhile, Robinson finished his playing career in 1960 and joined the Oregon staff as an assistant coach. He would stay there until 1971.Robinson and Madden had a pact. Whoever became a head coach first would hire the other as an assistant.But when Madden got the Raiders job in 1969, and offered a position to his pal, Robinson had to turn it down. He had just been promoted to quarterbacks coach at Oregon, and a promising young prospect, future Hall of Famer Dan Fouts, was about to begin his college career.Robinson eventually joined the Raiders for the 1975 season, sandwiched between stints as USC’s offensive coordinator (1972-74) and head coach (1976-82). He coached Oakland’s running backs and rode to and from work with Madden.“He was emotional yet very intellectual as a coach,” Robinson said. “He knew how to press buttons for players. He had a phenomenal ability to keep a team together. They absolutely loved him. John would always say, ‘Show up on time and be ready to play.’ He was the perfect fit for Al Davis, and Al knew it, too. John and Al were two very smart human beings.”In his 10 seasons as coach of the Raiders, Madden guided them to seven Western Division titles, seven seasons with double-digit victories and eight playoff appearances. In 1976, the Raiders capped a 13-1 season with a victory over the Minnesota Vikings in Super Bowl XI at the Rose Bowl.Robinson, who led USC to a national championship in 1978, coached the Rams from 1983-91 and twice reached the NFC title game. His 75 victories are the most in franchise history. He returned to coach USC from 1993-97, and later was coach then athletic director at UNLV, and more recently a consultant for coach Ed Ogeron at Louisiana State.During the 2008 NFL season, when Madden was color analyst for NBC’s “Sunday Night Football,” Robinson traveled with him for several of the games, at times flying to a city and joining him on the “Madden Cruiser” bus to the site of the next game.Madden had a fear of flying and felt claustrophobic in planes. He didn’t even like riding in an elevator with someone else. He and Robinson were able to get a lot of work done on the bus.“We would look at film and get a game plan together,” Robinson said. “He would study individuals, and I would look at a film off to the side a little bit, and then we would come together and talk about the game.”The bus was the height of comfort. For one of them.“He had a great big double bed in the back,” Robinson said. “I slept on a damn chair.”Mealtime underscored just what made Madden the everyman the entire country embraced.“We’d eat at some of the worst restaurants I’d ever seen,” Robinson said. “He’d say, ‘Oh, there’s my kind of place.’ I’d say, ‘John, that’s a hole-in-the-wall.’ For him, that was perfect.“He ate everything he could get his hands on. It was the restaurants that catered to the average Joe. There was no intellectual quality. He just liked the people. He liked when a guy was smoking a cigar when he was cooking in back. That was his kind of place.”Two friends, living the dream.tion RFU Season Ticket Holder 3 by PARAM 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 13216 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame RIP John Madden POST #28 Great piece!! Love the story about the sprint race. And playing for both the Yankees and niners!! "We weren't going to play basketball"!! Priceless!!! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Hacksaw 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: RIP John Madden POST #29 Elvis liked this post Thanks for posting that.. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! 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by Elvis 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 41506 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator RIP John Madden POST #27 TOPIC AUTHOR PARAM, Joe Pendleton, Hacksaw liked this post https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/sto ... n-robinsonJohn Madden’s lifelong buddy John Robinson: ‘Just two doofuses from Daly City’BY SAM FARMERSTAFF WRITERDEC. 31, 2021 12:38 PM PTThey became football legends, although not the way they once planned.John Madden and John Robinson rose to prominence as coaches, not players, their lives had intertwined since they met as fifth-graders at Our Lady of Perpetual Help in a neighborhood south of San Francisco.“Just two doofuses from Daly City,” said Robinson, 86, the former USC and Rams coach wistfully repeating a phrase the two pals used often over the course of their nearly 80-year friendship.They met as rival catchers at a youth baseball clinic, each sizing up the other and essentially saying, “Well, I know I can beat out that guy.”They became fast friends, two dreamers dead set on playing professional sports while, in their minds, setting objectives that were realistic and readily reachable.“Our plan was to play for the Yankees and the 49ers,” said Robinson, who was eight months older. “But we weren’t going to play basketball.”Robinson spoke by phone this week from his home in Baton Rouge, La., and reminisced about his lifelong buddy who died unexpectedly Tuesday at 85.“He was a brilliant guy,” Robinson said. “A lot of people miss that about him. His social intelligence — I don’t even know if that’s a word — but understood people. He could look at people and tell you a lot about them. He just had that ability.”Most impressive to Robinson was the way Madden, hired by Al Davis to coach the Oakland Raiders, could keep that collection of renegades in line. At 32, Madden was the youngest head coach in American Football League history.“They were hard to handle,” Robinson said. “And John handled them just as easy as you could a group of choir boys.”Though they would attend different high schools, Madden and Robinson maintained their friendship throughout their teenage years, working as caddies together at the Olympic Club and San Francisco Golf Club, driving around in beat-up cars supplied by Madden’s father, an auto mechanic, and talking endlessly about football.After graduating from Junipero Serra High, the eventual alma mater of Barry Bonds and Tom Brady, Robinson headed to the University of Oregon, where he played end on the 1958 Rose Bowl team.Madden, who attended Jefferson High, had a brief stint with Robinson at Oregon before suffering a knee injury that scuttled his season. The two lived together with four other guys.“John slept and ate a lot,” Robinson said with a chuckle.There were other memories, one of which is now part of Eugene lore. It involved Madden and roommate Jim Bailey, a star on the Oregon track team. A graduate student from Australia, Bailey would go on to run for his country in the Olympics and also became the first man to break the four-minute mile on American soil, in a race at the Los Angeles Coliseum.But on this particular night, Madden broke him.“We were sitting around drinking beer, and I came up with this thing that John Madden could beat Jim Bailey in a race,” Robinson said. “Everybody laughed, Jim laughed. And I said, ‘No, I’m serious.’ ”What started as chatter turned into an excited commotion that spilled out into the street outside the Sigma Chi house at about 1 a.m. Robinson was the hype man.“I was taking bets,” he said. “John and I had about four dollars between us and we had bets out for probably 50 bucks. So I’m coaching John, saying, ‘You’ve got to win this damn thing.’ They walked off a sprint of about 70 yards through the main street of the Oregon campus, and somehow it spread so there were about 150 people watching this race.“John Madden killed him. We wound up with about 40 bucks. We went out and got good sandwiches. Oh, we had a helluva time.”This wasn’t the beefy Madden that America grew to love, but a leaner version.“He had slender legs,” Robinson said. “He had a sprinter’s legs on a big body. He could run. I used to say, ‘John, that’s the highlight of your career right there.’ ”Of course, it was just the beginning. Madden left Oregon and briefly attended College of San Mateo and Grays Harbor College before resuming his playing career at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, where he started on the offensive and defensive lines, as well as playing catcher on the baseball team.The Philadelphia Eagles selected him the 21st round of the 1958 draft, and he spent one season there before a knee injury ended his career.Madden returned to Cal Poly for his master’s degree in education, met his future wife, Virginia, and soon after began his coaching career at Allan Hancock Junior College. Meanwhile, Robinson finished his playing career in 1960 and joined the Oregon staff as an assistant coach. He would stay there until 1971.Robinson and Madden had a pact. Whoever became a head coach first would hire the other as an assistant.But when Madden got the Raiders job in 1969, and offered a position to his pal, Robinson had to turn it down. He had just been promoted to quarterbacks coach at Oregon, and a promising young prospect, future Hall of Famer Dan Fouts, was about to begin his college career.Robinson eventually joined the Raiders for the 1975 season, sandwiched between stints as USC’s offensive coordinator (1972-74) and head coach (1976-82). He coached Oakland’s running backs and rode to and from work with Madden.“He was emotional yet very intellectual as a coach,” Robinson said. “He knew how to press buttons for players. He had a phenomenal ability to keep a team together. They absolutely loved him. John would always say, ‘Show up on time and be ready to play.’ He was the perfect fit for Al Davis, and Al knew it, too. John and Al were two very smart human beings.”In his 10 seasons as coach of the Raiders, Madden guided them to seven Western Division titles, seven seasons with double-digit victories and eight playoff appearances. In 1976, the Raiders capped a 13-1 season with a victory over the Minnesota Vikings in Super Bowl XI at the Rose Bowl.Robinson, who led USC to a national championship in 1978, coached the Rams from 1983-91 and twice reached the NFC title game. His 75 victories are the most in franchise history. He returned to coach USC from 1993-97, and later was coach then athletic director at UNLV, and more recently a consultant for coach Ed Ogeron at Louisiana State.During the 2008 NFL season, when Madden was color analyst for NBC’s “Sunday Night Football,” Robinson traveled with him for several of the games, at times flying to a city and joining him on the “Madden Cruiser” bus to the site of the next game.Madden had a fear of flying and felt claustrophobic in planes. He didn’t even like riding in an elevator with someone else. He and Robinson were able to get a lot of work done on the bus.“We would look at film and get a game plan together,” Robinson said. “He would study individuals, and I would look at a film off to the side a little bit, and then we would come together and talk about the game.”The bus was the height of comfort. For one of them.“He had a great big double bed in the back,” Robinson said. “I slept on a damn chair.”Mealtime underscored just what made Madden the everyman the entire country embraced.“We’d eat at some of the worst restaurants I’d ever seen,” Robinson said. “He’d say, ‘Oh, there’s my kind of place.’ I’d say, ‘John, that’s a hole-in-the-wall.’ For him, that was perfect.“He ate everything he could get his hands on. It was the restaurants that catered to the average Joe. There was no intellectual quality. He just liked the people. He liked when a guy was smoking a cigar when he was cooking in back. That was his kind of place.”Two friends, living the dream.tion RFU Season Ticket Holder 3 by PARAM 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 13216 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame RIP John Madden POST #28 Great piece!! Love the story about the sprint race. And playing for both the Yankees and niners!! "We weren't going to play basketball"!! Priceless!!! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Hacksaw 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: RIP John Madden POST #29 Elvis liked this post Thanks for posting that.. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! 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by PARAM 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 13216 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame RIP John Madden POST #28 Great piece!! Love the story about the sprint race. And playing for both the Yankees and niners!! "We weren't going to play basketball"!! Priceless!!! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Hacksaw 3 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: RIP John Madden POST #29 Elvis liked this post Thanks for posting that.. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 Reply 3 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 29 posts Jul 05 2025
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