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So you know nothing about the Rams issues at OL in 2019.

Which is why implausibly you talk about a "2 year regression."

He had 4 bad games in 2020 and played well in the playoffs with a broken thumb. And that includes playing well when GB was only the 3rd team since the merger to score on all 5 of its 1st possessions in the playoffs.

Look that thing up about the 2019 OL, it's kind of relevant.

Meanwhile, is Stafford going to be good with the Rams? I am open to seeing that.

But he ain't gonna do any better behind a problem OL than any other qb, Goff included. The Rams OL was up and down in 2020, maybe they shore it up so it's more consistently solid.

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We'll certainly see how they feel about the OL going forward. I don't believe they got Stafford
'because he can play better behind a suspect OL'. I believe they got Stafford because they wanted to unload Goffs contract, they believe Stafford is a better QB and McVay wants to expand the offense. How that works out is anybody's guess. I'm rooting for the guy and hope he throws 45 TDs next season.

[Elvis]

BTW, at the beginning of the year Goff was focusing on getting better at making throws, not from a clean pocket. I would say that did not pan out as well as hoped. From Jourdan in July:

https://theathletic.com/1963759/2020/07 ... t-in-2020/

The ability to move inside the pocket and throw off multiple platforms was really important. And one thing Jared had to do a lot of last year was throw off his back foot. Some of that was related to his footwork, which we wanted to clean up. Some of it was related to that understanding that he didn’t have the same space and time (to throw) that maybe he had been accustomed to, and that this year was going to be no different. We worked on the mechanics of how to be able to throw off of the back foot but not lose any of the velocity or take any more off of the arm. And then also, when you’re forced to move and you find yourself on your front foot, how do you throw off your front foot?

There are specific mechanics to doing that to where, once again, you don’t lose mechanical efficiency. It may look completely different to the untrained eye, but we are looking for specific variables of how he’s generating velocity, how he’s generating accuracy, no matter what platform he throws from — back foot, front foot, on the run. And that was a big emphasis for him this offseason.

For me (it’s) knowing, “This is going to be your reality, get used to it,” (not wanting him) to go into survival mode. While everybody else is just going to try to survive, we’re going to thrive because we worked on it. We talked about it specifically, we felt things, we didn’t like things, we moved on, we tried something else, we tweaked his footwork and tried to make things simpler for him. Just the details. Think critically about how we can make it easier.

[Hacksaw]

Stafford is more decisive and has a stronger arm, is quicker and I'm guessing reads quicker too. He's also more stout than Goff.

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We'll certainly see how they feel about the OL going forward. I don't believe they got Stafford
'because he can play better behind a suspect OL'. I believe they got Stafford because they wanted to unload Goffs contract, they believe Stafford is a better QB and McVay wants to expand the offense. How that works out is anybody's guess. I'm rooting for the guy and hope he throws 45 TDs next season.

Stafford's a good comparison here. In his 5th year just like Goff in 2020, Stafford had 4 bad games too. Using this formula--that in 2010 a qb rating of 70 or below means a bad game--Stafford had 4 bad games, which included 9 INTs. And yeah Stafford can't play behind a suspect OL, they tried that in Detroit.

[azramsfan93]

So what happens if they give Stafford the same quality O-Line as Goff? How soon before most will want Stafford dumped?

So the O-line makes Goff run slowly? It makes him throw REALLY BAD interceptions? It makes his release loopy and slow? It makes him slow in reading the defense?

When was the last time Goff had one of those patented game winning drives?

Stafford has had the most in the NFL over the past 10 years.

There are no pristine pockets in the NFL. At least not very often. On any team. Top QBs make off schedule plays. That is rarely Goff and everyone knows it.

[azramsfan93]

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/n ... 690836002/

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The one thing that really bothers me about all this... and I really do think very, very highly of McVay... BUT there was no sideline or even post game/off the field criticism of Goff.

You gotta let your qb know if he’s going in the wrong direction. You need to call him out. You gotta yell at him on the sidelines if he’s reading slow or wrong.

None of that happened until the very end.

This, to me, limits McVay to QBs that have to be hard on themselves or it just doesn’t work.

[RedAlice]

The one thing that really bothers me about all this... and I really do think very, very highly of McVay... BUT there was no sideline or even post game/off the field criticism of Goff.

You gotta let your qb know if he’s going in the wrong direction. You need to call him out. You gotta yell at him on the sidelines if he’s reading slow or wrong.

None of that happened until the very end.

This, to me, limits McVay to QBs that have to be hard on themselves or it just doesn’t work.

We don’t know what was said or done privately.

[CanuckRightWinger]

Nice to see the eclectic veins of thought here at RFU on this mega trade for Mathew Stafford.

Some skeptics still singing Goff's praises vis a vis Jared's "only" 4 bad games in 2020.

That's okay though IMO.....nobody wants to see stepfordwives/group think around here....least of all me.

For me, when players leave Los Ramos....I really do not root for them anymore (other than Ron Jaworski, the East European and Jack Pardee, the cancer-fighter).

So to me, Jared Goff is now a Lion.....and not a Ram anymore! We dumped that shit contract of Goff's and even with the $22.2 Mil of Goff Dead Money we have to carry for 2021, guess what? Stafford's $20Mil Salary for 2021 gets restructured to $4.86 Million for this year, freeing up nearly $8Million in 2021 Cap Space to help retain JJ III or Leonard Floyd (per overthecap.com).

For me, it's Jared PepperidgeFarms Goff is gone.....ding dong, the witch is dead!!!

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Stafford's $20Mil Salary for 2021 gets restructured to $4.86 Million for this year, freeing up nearly $8Million in 2021 Cap Space

I really do believe, at least for Les, that was the biggest thing. Maybe there was something to the fact that Goff would not rework his contract (who knows). But this group was so close to such a dominating team. We need to keep this group together as much as possible and ultimately Goffs contract didn’t fit into those plans.