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While I have no doubt that the Rams are exploring options, it’s amazing how much of that article is based upon the writer’s own interpretations or parroting the interpretation of other commentators.

Yeah, the Rams are exploring options. That's pretty clear from everything we've heard from McVay, Snead, agents, and players.

Not sure why its amazing that some writers do stuff like that, they're looking for readers.

We've certainly come a long way from, theres no rift between McVay and Goff to theres no doubt the Rams are exploring options in a couple of weeks, haven't we?

We are all speculating on why McVay is going down this path. Has he decided that Goff is not his guy and he is moving on from him or is he trying to motivate? We are all guess on that, obviously.

It just strikes me as a bad idea to motivate this way. And I have a hard time believing McVay isn't smarter than that.

I remember that McVay said years ago that he drew a lot of his philosophy from Bill Walsh and his book, "the score takes care of itself" which is a book more about organizational leadership than football Xs and Os.

In the book Walsh talks about figuring out who the guys are who aren't up to his high standard and when he determines that they are out the door. It's quite possible that McVay is at that point with Goff. OK, I'm just spitballing here. Food for though. But I think it's plausible that this is whats happened. And I'm not saying its justified, I have no idea whats went on every day between Goff and McVay, but something cause this severe response from McVay.

[Elvis]

Maybe that is what they're trying to do? Some people suspected he didn't put in enough work during the offseason. Don't know if there is any truth to that. Or maybe they're no longer convinced he's the guy.

I was being sarcastic, seems we've gone way too far for this to be about motivation...

[majik]

That makes sense have the cap the same as borrow against future years.

One thing that did strike me the week leading up to the Cards game were the articles about Wolford and Donald’s comments about him being a first in/last to go home type regarding workouts and being at the team facility. Without saying it, it gave you the impression that Goff was not one of those types, which could get on McVay’s nerves and make Wolford the golden boy.

[moklerman]

This shitshow will soon turn into a full category 5 shit storm. I have a bad feeling that our team is not going to be as good on either side of the ball this upcoming season, if they move Goff and bring in a so-called top vet QB. There won’t be any cap room to get anyone resigned or bring in any quality F/As. And, we might have to cough up draft picks this year as well.

I don't know. I agree that the cap handling looks like a mess but it's easy enough to say that even with all of that, if they had got more production at QB, they're a 12 win team this year. Probably better than 9 last year. So, despite their seeming mishandling of contracts and the cap, they are producing 10+ wins and playoff victories.

Now, I could see the concern if all of that was produced on the arm of Jared Goff. But, we're not talking about Marino or Manning here. Goff has been fine at times and mostly complimented everything else but he isn't the straw that stirs the drink. Life after Goff, on it's own, will be fine for McVay and the Rams. I don't see any reason to think Sneak and McVay can't more forward and be successful if the trade Goff this year.

They have been aggressive and cavalier the whole time they've been here.

[Elvis]

While I have no doubt that the Rams are exploring options, it’s amazing how much of that article is based upon the writer’s own interpretations or parroting the interpretation of other commentators.

Whether it's the previous Gurley situation or now Goff, we dismiss what the reporters tell us at our own peril.

After that press conference where McVay allegedly said "right now," i thought that was a misquote and Rich Hammond basically laughed at me on Twitter for thinking that. And he was right. Mike Silver was right. Something is clearly up, no tea leaf reading needed at this point.

Sure reporters have their own motives, their own careers to think about and they're certainly not all the same. But a lot of them are a lot closer to the situation than we are, talk to more people than just the press conferences we see/read, they add real value and information.

My take anyway...

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I was being sarcastic, seems we've gone way too far for this to be about motivation...

Yeah, Elvis, I can't digest it as motivational anymore either.

So the question is "why" does McVay want to move on from Goff?

I don't believe it has anything to do with anything other than McVay's decision. I don't believe anyone else is behind it, not Snead, Demoff, nor Kroenke. This is all McVay, IMO.

So what happened? Thats the $99,000 question. It can't be all about the turnovers, can it? I mean, there has to be more to this, right?

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That makes sense have the cap the same as borrow against future years.

One thing that did strike me the week leading up to the Cards game were the articles about Wolford and Donald’s comments about him being a first in/last to go home type regarding workouts and being at the team facility. Without saying it, it gave you the impression that Goff was not one of those types, which could get on McVay’s nerves and make Wolford the golden boy.

I wrote a long winded post on this and other stuff in the same light and got bashed here.

But, hey, things are better now. I'm not getting bashed. So thats good.

[ramsman34]

I don't know. I agree that the cap handling looks like a mess but it's easy enough to say that even with all of that, if they had got more production at QB, they're a 12 win team this year. Probably better than 9 last year. So, despite their seeming mishandling of contracts and the cap, they are producing 10+ wins and playoff victories.

Now, I could see the concern if all of that was produced on the arm of Jared Goff. But, we're not talking about Marino or Manning here. Goff has been fine at times and mostly complimented everything else but he isn't the straw that stirs the drink. Life after Goff, on it's own, will be fine for McVay and the Rams. I don't see any reason to think Sneak and McVay can't more forward and be successful if the trade Goff this year.

They have been aggressive and cavalier the whole time they've been here.

I get that. But, I am taking more of the 30,000 ft view here: looking at losses on D and even O, and the presumed inability to adequately replace those losses as well as upgrade weak areas - along with the QB swap. Unless you are of the notion that with those presumed losses/weakness in certain positions, the new QB will compensate.

[Elvis]

Yeah, Elvis, I can't digest it as motivational anymore either.

So the question is "why" does McVay want to move on from Goff?

I don't believe it has anything to do with anything other than McVay's decision. I don't believe anyone else is behind it, not Snead, Demoff, nor Kroenke. This is all McVay, IMO.

So what happened? Thats the $99,000 question. It can't be all about the turnovers, can it? I mean, there has to be more to this, right?

There are a lot of possibilities and no way for us to know.

But my best guess at the moment (and has been for a while), Goff just doesn't play the game at the level McVay wants him to, McVay has become convinced the offense can be better with a different QB.

My next guess is it's somehow personal, they don't get along anymore, maybe (getting back to my first guess), Goff isn't making the decisions McVay think he should and Goff thinks he is. They're not on the same page and neither will give.

But like i said, these are guesses...

[Elvis]

This shitshow will soon turn into a full category 5 shit storm. I have a bad feeling that our team is not going to be as good on either side of the ball this upcoming season, if they move Goff and bring in a so-called top vet QB. There won’t be any cap room to get anyone resigned or bring in any quality F/As. And, we might have to cough up draft picks this year as well.

Going back to Sammy Watkins, we've been doing thing in an unconventional way since McVay got here. We take a lot of crap for it and maybe it's a house of cards that will come down but so far we keep winning.

Dumping Gurley the way we did, after all he'd done for us was shocking but it was the right move. He's just not what he was.

So i still have a lot of faith in McVay and Snead but we'll see. Its a results business and so far the results have been good.

Or as Pete Schrager and Mike Clay put it: